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I don't usually pay attention to those numbers... but I mean, it's not rocket science here, it's easy to hear.

I mean, not like the 1840 was meant for that type of thing, but I guess some data does correspond with what I'm hearing.
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To add, it's not like the 1840's bass is a mess. For most music, I can't hear the distortion. Just on some of the heavier music, it's definitely there. But to be honest, if you're listening to heavy bass genres with the 1840, you're doing it wrong to begin with, lol. Everyone and their grandmother knows the 1840 is tilted for detail, not bass.

i find the 1840 enjoyable. Not my kind of flavor, but I like it.

The treble is quite an improvement over the MA900.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/17/13 at 3:27pm
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Anyone ever use a desktop mounted mic for the Astro Mixamp? I figure they might have the potential to produce higher quality chat?
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To add, it's not like the 1840's bass is a mess. For most music, I can't hear the distortion. Just on some of the heavier music, it's definitely there. But to be honest, if you're listening to heavy bass genres with the 1840, you're doing it wrong to begin with, lol. Everyone and their grandmother knows the 1840 is tilted for detail, not bass.

i find the 1840 enjoyable. Not my kind of flavor, but I like it.

The treble is quite an improvement over the MA900.

 

Which is exactly what the 1540 is for. Like I mentioned earlier... I use the 1840 for gaming, movies, jazz, and classical music. Everything else I do with headphones involves bass so that's when the 1540 gets its time to shine. Each are perfect compliments to each other, IMHO.

 

The 1840 isn't really as bad as people write, to my ears, because as you can see... I chose to keep it over the K712. For it's use the 1840 was just a better fit to me. The K712 was more geared towards being a good all rounder with its slight mid bass hump. I, however, needed something a little more balanced and neutral... hence the 1840.

 

IMHO, the 1840 is the most neutral headphone I've tried. We all have our different opinions, of course.


Edited by Change is Good - 12/17/13 at 3:40pm
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Mad Lust Envy, which heaphone would you recommend for someone who doesn't want to wake up others in the middle of the night?  I really want the dt 990 pro but I guess they really aren't ideal, since they have sound leakage.  I was looking at the Creative Aurvana Live, are these better than the M50's?  The Creative's are on sale for $60 on Amazon while the M50's are $40 more as well.

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For gaming, yes, the CAL is better. otherwise, they're pretty on par with one another. Can't go wrong with the CAL.
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Anyone ever use a desktop mounted mic for the Astro Mixamp? I figure they might have the potential to produce higher quality chat?

 

A desktop mic may have higher sound quality (depending on the mic) since it has probably larger higher quality capsule, but I'm doubtful a desktop mic would sound as good as a boom mic for gaming for a couple of reasons.

 

A benefit of a boom mic is that it's close to your mouth so it always has a strong signal. This means it can have a lower gain, which means less hiss and a cleaner signal.  Lower gain also means less room background noise picked up when your not talking.  So a boom mic basically gives as a better signal to noise ratio, with the "signal" being your voice and the "noise" being either hiss from the mic gain or actual room background noise. 

 

Unless your talking right up on the desktop mic like a radio announcer (not likely when gaming) a desktop mic is going to be farther away from your mouth than a boom mic, so it will need higher gain.  So it will likely have more background hiss, and it will also probably pick up more background noise in the room when your not talking.  Kind of like using a Kinect for a mic vs a headset.

 

Boom mics are usually directional, and because of the way they're angled/pointed they can take advantage of that to try and cancel out noise coming from behind them (your headphones).  A desktop mic may be directional too, but it's pointed at you and your headphones, so it's more likely to pick up the sounds coming out of an open headset (the higher gain/higher sensitivity won't help here either).


Edited by chicolom - 12/17/13 at 3:54pm
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For gaming, yes, the CAL is better. otherwise, they're pretty on par with one another. Can't go wrong with the CAL.

 

Ok cool, would there be a benefit in pairing it with an amp like a fiio e17 or something similar?  Also, how is the sound leakage with the Beyerdynamic dt 990?  Can someone in the next room hear the sound coming from the dt 990?  Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

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Ok cool, would there be a benefit in pairing it with an amp like a fiio e17 or something similar?  Also, how is the sound leakage with the Beyerdynamic dt 990?  Can someone in the next room hear the sound coming from the dt 990?  Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

My fiancee is extremely sensitive to noise when she is sleeping. My office is right next door to the bedroom, and I am able to use my akg annies, and he 400s and not wake her.

 

Are you able to shut the door? 

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Hmm, I have to take back what I said about the 1840 having just a little less bass than the MA900. The MA900 sounds quite bassy next to the 1840. Like... the 1840 is an AD700 next to the MA900. I dunno HOW anyone complains about the MA900's bass. That baffles me actually.

 

Simple: they're bassheads who want extension down to 20 Hz.

 

I don't think any headphone, or at least any open-back headphone, can pull that off.

 

I've noticed a similar thing across impressions of other headphones. People speak of Lambda-series Stax like they have no bass, but if the drivers aren't defective in any way, that's far from the case. "No bass" would be the AD700.

 

Anyway, looks like I'm in for a bassiness lottery tomorrow...or later today, technically speaking (12:33am EST). If only manufacturers would keep things consistent; it makes reviews less of a pain.

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What made you go for the MMX300?

Jumpman, unless you have volume set to explode your ear drums, I don't see how anyone could complain about any open headphone aside from electrostatics, really. The DT990 definitely doesn't leak loudly enough to make any sort of unappreciable loudness from another room. I think I made that word up, lololol.

Oh, perhaps a planar like the HE400, and the rare, extremely open dynamic like the MA900...and that's only with something like 1840 pads, which lowers the volume level considerably, so you need to push out more to reach the same volume to the ears as the stock pads which basically put the drivers right next to your ears. Because the MA900's needs to be louder with the 1840 pads, all that extra volume is clearly noticeable for everyone else in the room and then some.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/17/13 at 10:44pm
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What made you go for the MMX300?

Jumpman, unless you have volume set to explode your ear drums, I don't see how anyone could complain about any open headphone aside from electrostatics, really. The DT990 definitely doesn't leak loudly enough to make any sort of unappreciable loudness from another room. I think I made that word up, lololol.

Oh, perhaps a planar like the HE400, and the rare, extremely open dynamic like the MA900...and that's only with something like 1840 pads, which lowers the volume level considerably, so you need to push out more to reach the same volume to the ears as the stock pads which basically put the drivers right next to your ears. Because the MA900's needs to be louder with the 1840 pads, all that extra volume is clearly noticeable for everyone else in the room and then some.

 

Aw man, now you got me in a bind because the DT990 seem really nice but I don't want to chance waking up the baby or I might get killed lol.  I was getting ready to get the Creative Aurvana Live's since they are $60 on Amazon right now.  Would the CAL's sound better paired with a Fiio E17?  

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That's a swell combo. The E17 plays to the CAL's strengths, it's warmth.
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What made you go for the MMX300?

 

It was cheap (less than half the current Amazon going price of $300) and I'm confident in being able to solder the replacement connector properly so it won't cut out.

 

Plus, I wanted to know if a closed set with decent isolation would work at all for gaming with virtual surround.

 

Most of all, I want YOU to review it, because it's really the only headset out there that isn't the PC360 with any pretense of catering to audiophiles, and you've already reviewed the PC360. Only seems fair to give the MMX300 a shot, right?

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Fair enough. tongue.gif
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