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Yay, ordered the Sony MDR-MA900. They were discounted for 150 USD, incl. TAX and shipping... that was something I simply couldn't turn down :]

 

Now that I've sold my open rig [the HE-6 and associated equipment] I am trying to keep a minimalist approach :]

The W1000X are pretty good but I feel like the MA-900 will make a good complement as the W1000X are slightly bass heavy and I wanna have a neutral can too, where the MA900 seems to fit the bill.

 

I was contemplating the X1 too, but I am not sure I want a completely bass heavy headphone as I really like the mids and am kinda into sound-whoring and V-shaped cans tend to turn me off...

 

Still I'll consider the Phillips but there was no such deal on these, though 320USD incl. TAX is still pretty good but... they ain't going anywhere :D

 

Looking forward to the MA-900. Hope they'll be as good as I think :]

I just hope the vocals and highs are not recessed :P

I really hope the soundstage is big. I really miss the openness the HE-6 gave :/


Edited by conquerator2 - 12/2/13 at 4:59am
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The vocals are forward, the highs are subdued, so they may disappoint you, as they're pretty smooth up top.
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The vocals are forward, the highs are subdued, so they may disappoint you, as they're pretty smooth up top.

Thanks, yeah. I'll see today but 150 USD is a steal :]

How'd they compare to the X1? There is no comparison up there I've found.

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That's because they're opposites in presentation. The X1 is bass oriented with a slight tilt in treble at 10khz. The MA900 is midbass/mids oriented, with rolled off sub bass and downward sloped treble.

I don't like comparing two headphones with very different presentations. Apples to oranges.
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That's because they're opposites in presentation. The X1 is bass oriented with a slight tilt in treble at 10khz. The MA900 is midbass/mids oriented, with rolled off sub bass and downward sloped treble.

I don't like comparing two headphones with very different presentations. Apples to oranges.

I know but it's hard to decide :D

I might consider the X1 too...

I really dunno right now... I'll get the MA900 first and will see... But the X1 does seem tempting :]

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For gaming, I feel the MA900 has plenty, plenty of bass. As I said in my review, the MA900 can actually be considered a bassy headphone, since it's midbass IS the most prominent aspect of it's sound, which is basically on the level with the mids, if just a hair tipped upwards in midbass.

Sub bass is amazing and I'd love for more headphones to have it, but as you all may know, games/and devs in general, don't tend to put much information down in the sub bass levels. This is why I personally don't feel the MA900 is lacking in bass in general. Explosions and all sound incredible on the MA900. Because the MA900 is soooooo linear between the mid bass up to treble, where is slopes down... you get a lot of detail where most details are found....the mids. All you miss is the last hint of treble sparkle and more or less the stuff that grates your ears is reigned back. This is why I also don't see the MA900 as lacking in treble. It's a pleasant sound signature with plenty of detail for it's price, with a general, all around tone that won't aggravate the vast majority of consumers.

As always, ear placement is incredibly vital for the MA900. That means you better put it with the ear dead center, or you'll be altering it's sound signature by quite a bit. The further back you put the headphones, the less bass you will get.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/2/13 at 6:18am
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For gaming, I feel the MA900 has plenty, plenty of bass. As I said in my review, the MA900 can actually be considered a bassy headphone, since it's midbass IS the most prominent aspect of it's sound, which is basically on the level with the mids, if just a hair tipped upwards in midbass.

Sub bass is amazing and I'd love for more headphones to have it, but as you all may know, games/and devs in general, don't tend to put much information down in the sub bass levels. This is why I personally don't feel the MA900 is lacking in bass in general. Explosions and all sound incredible on the MA900. Because the MA900 is soooooo linear between the mid bass up to treble, where is slopes down... you get a lot of detail where most details are found....the mids. All you miss is the last hint of treble sparkle and more or less the stuff that grates your ears is reigned back. This is why I also don't see the MA900 as lacking in treble. It's a pleasant sound signature with plenty of detail for it's price, with a general, all around tone that won't aggravate the vast majority of consumers.

As always, ear placement is incredibly vital for the MA900. That means you better put it with the ear dead center, or you'll be altering it's sound signature by quite a bit. The further back you put the headphones, the less bass you will get.

OK, thanks MLE.

Appreciate it!

 

How are they with music btw?

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What have you read saying they're different?  FWIR they sound pretty similar.

 

A post here seems to shy away from the A700xs, but they refer the to closed set vs the open. It seems the open ones are farther from my budget then the closed.
 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/684067/is-the-ath-a700x-as-good-as-ath-ad700-for-gaming

 

It sounds like you trying to rule out any headphone that "requires" an amp.  All headphones are going to benefit from a better amp, but the high ohm or low sensitivity ones are the ones that really need one to sound good.  They just don't get enough volume without one.  No headphones under 100 are going to be that critical of amping.  The HD558 and the Superlux are both around 50 ohms so they will benefit slightly more from an amp, but it's not an issue like it is with 300 ohm mid fi headphones or the low sensitivity AKGs or Planar phones.  AD700s are notorious for being extremely easy to drive.  Don't know about the Samsons, but they're 32 ohms so they should be pretty easy.

 

In this price bracket, I wouldn't let any amp requirements affect your decision. 

 

Well the problem is my budget doesn't take into consideration an amp so if I wouldn't need one it would be beneficial. To at least not need one right away would work to so I could save up for one.

 

That's simple:  The DSS has a Dolby Digital "DD" light on it.  If the "DD" light IS lit up, then it is working correctly.  Anything else (like the "PLIIX" light) means the DSS is NOT getting the required Dolby Digital 5.1 signal, and therefore won't be able to produce surround sound.  If the "Dolby Bypass" light is ON, then push the bypass button and see if it jumps over to "DD" or "PLIIX".

 

DOH! My current setup defaults to PLIIX :( guess that soundbox isn't doing its job? Is it because the sound is coming via USB to the box and then optical to the DSS? What would you recommend I do in this situation? (Having the DSS already which is apparently good)

 

 

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The AD700s were always hovering around $100 for me. The AD700x is $129.

 

Where do you see them for $100?

 

Edit: NM I just found them for very close to that. I'm just worried now that I might be selling myself short if I am not all about playing competitively. When I do play CS I am very competitive, but I play other games to. I want something that has some immersion to it to. I need a little bit of column a and a little bit of column b for under/around $100

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Hey everyone. New member here. Great thread and so far really helpful. Can't stress that enough. I have more of a specific question that was asked before, but couldn't find an answer for it. I currently use Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium sound card on my PC and recently purchased the AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition. Should I get a desktop amp? and if so any strong recommendations? Thanks guys. 

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A post here seems to shy away from the A700xs, but they refer the to closed set vs the open. It seems the open ones are farther from my budget then the closed.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/684067/is-the-ath-a700x-as-good-as-ath-ad700-for-gaming

 

Yeah, that's the A700x.  I never mentioned that headphone. I was talking about the AD700x.  With audio technicas "D" usually = open.

 

A700 = closed.  Discontinued and replaced by A700x.

AD700 = open.  Discontinued and replaced by AD700x.

 

 

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I'm just worried now that I might be selling myself short if I am not all about playing competitively. When I do play CS I am very competitive, but I play other games to. I want something that has some immersion to it to. I need a little bit of column a and a little bit of column b for under/around $100

 

 

AD700(x) would NOT be my first choice for immersive single player gaming. Something like the HD558 would offer a better balance between the two, while the AD700 is tilted all to the competitve side.


Edited by chicolom - 12/2/13 at 12:20pm
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Hey everyone. New member here. Great thread and so far really helpful. Can't stress that enough. I have more of a specific question that was asked before, but couldn't find an answer for it. I currently use Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium sound card on my PC and recently purchased the AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition. Should I get a desktop amp? and if so any strong recommendations? Thanks guys. 

Titanium (non-HD) or Titanium-HD?

Did you disable your motherboard's on-board audio? in the BIOS

 

I would guess the Bravo Ocean ($120) tube headphone amplifier would be a good choice (guessing).

http://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Audio-Ocean-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QKSVI

 

Read this thread, see what others are using to drive their AKG K702.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition

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Titanium (non-HD) or Titanium-HD?

Did you disable your motherboard's on-board audio? in the BIOS

 

I would guess the Bravo Ocean ($120) tube headphone amplifier would be a good choice (guessing).

http://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Audio-Ocean-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QKSVI

 

Read this thread, see what others are using to drive their AKG K702.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition

HD and yes the mobo on-board audio is disabled. Thanks for the links!

 

I guess my only really question is if i really need it. 


Edited by SpartanG087 - 12/2/13 at 11:05am
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OK, thanks MLE.
Appreciate it!

How are they with music btw?

I love them. As far as an all rounder for all purposes and genres, I like the MA900 the most up until the MD and Annie price range.

The imaging and soundstage are a thing to hear for yourself. The vocal presence is natural and organic sounding, though admittedly not on the level of the 650 and Annies, though that's to be expected considering they cost half or less.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/2/13 at 11:21am
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@Spartan - yes, an amp is definitely required for AKG's; especially so as your card doesn't have a proper headphone amplifier. Connect it to the lineouts/(or rca outs?) and you're good to go. Get a Magni or O2.


Edited by SaLX - 12/2/13 at 11:15am
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@Spartan - yes, an amp is definitely required for AKG's; especially so as your card doesn't have a proper headphone amplifier.

Thanks for being direct. Any suggestions? 

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