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Oh god... the forums are going to evolve! They're becoming self aware! Grab your headphones and RUN!

 

 

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Axel, what happens if I quote myself?!? blink.gif
What happens if I am the fourth person quoting you and I want ze code, but I quote the wrong post and I don't have a ps4 yet (availability)?

Axel,
You and Change will probably just evolve into a Kakuna and a Metapod, a lotta hardening going on around here.
Edited by Evshrug - 12/1/13 at 1:55pm
post #18528 of 26368
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What happens if I am the fourth person quoting you and I want ze code, but I quote the wrong post and I don't have a ps4 yet (availability)?

Axel,
You and Change will probably just evolve into a Kakuna and a Metapod, a lotta hardening going on around here.

 

post #18529 of 26368
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


What happens if I am the fourth person quoting you and I want ze code, but I quote the wrong post and I don't have a ps4 yet (availability)?

Axel,
You and Change will probably just evolve into a Kakuna and a Metapod, a lotta hardening going on around here.

 

PS4 will be available online tomorrow at Sears. Not sure what time it goes live. It'll sell out quickly. Cyber Monday FTW.

 

post #18530 of 26368
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Originally Posted by derbigpr View Post
 

So....I've bought a Logitech G430 headset.

 

Now to the star of the show.  The USB soundcard.  I have no clue what it does, how it does it, but this thing walks all over my Asus Xonar Essence ST soundcard. This thing can be worth 15-20 dollars most, but the surround sound, the feeling of space, the imaging, the depth of space around you, and the fact it does not significantly change the tonality of the sound when surround sound is enabled, is just amazing.  Quite simply put,  this is the best surround sound I've ever heard on headphones.

 

Ummm....The G430 uses Dolby Headphone...sooo...

 

 

 

 

 

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Another thing, when you enable the dolby on Asus, it changes the sound. It changes tonality, for the worse. The Logitech drivers do it for better. Human voices actually sound MORE realistic with the surround enabled. It actually feels like a person is standing in front of you.  The behind surround channel are amazing.  You know the dolby headphone video on youtube with the match stick box shaking around you? You know that feeling of the sound coming directly behind you and then it goes down and back up? This is what this Logitech sound card does to EVERYTHING. It just makes it sound real, not different, doesn't change tonality too much, don't add loads of echo or boom like most surround sound effects do, it just takes the flat, boring sounds, and arranges them in a very precise virtual space around you. AND, it actually works with music, because it improves it. I was listening to some DSP jazz albums on the HD202's, and it sounds amazing. The resolution of the sound goes up, detail goes up, imaging is over the top, feeling of space insane, you can almost touch the instruments.

 

Honestly, I would pay 100$ for the Logitech USB soundcard alone, because it beats any other soundcard or surround sound in headphones I've ever tried before.

 

 

A DSP that increases resolution, detail, and makes things sound more natural and real + better imaging and soundstage?  No offense, but it sounds a little hard to believe.  Especially if it's using Dolby Headphone - like it says it is.

 

That matchbox video is a binaural recording BTW, not dolby heapdhone or any other DSP.


Edited by chicolom - 12/1/13 at 6:32pm
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On a scale of competitive —well rounded —"Fun", which you can look at as detailed and bass lean — well-rounded — colored sound with exaggerated bass and perhaps a V-shaped freq response, the AD700 is definitely in the competitive side of the scale, and FWIR the Samson/Superlux (though the headband is similar) is on the opposite side of "Fun" headphone. They both have fans, they're just different headphones, and tend to make different things stand out more. Both fare better than average walmart crap.
Eh, I think the Koss KSC75 I have is a little colored, a bit of extra bass but also sharp treble, so while you don't get a natural sense of soundstage, you do get good positional image and "which way?" directionality. 8 or 8.5 for me, competitive score. Dunno what I'd give the other headphone.

Keep in mind pads have a big effect on sound, with velours you may get decreased bass but also more diffuse imaging. Personally, I really like velours too.

The ModMic is a practical way to give any headphone that headset "feel," plus it's removable. The only downside is it costs more than the already good DX mic Mad uses and the clone I found on Amazon. I would avoid the Zalman.

The last thing I'd say is in regard to the Amp question. If you're just starting the headphone hobby, start with just the nicest headphone you like that you can afford. That way you have a better, longer term investment. Later, improve and rediscover your headphone by adding a decent amp. The exception to that strategy is something like the Koss KSC75, buying a good value for the short term for a specific reason like using as a walk-about headphone that you can beat up without feeling bad.

 

I really do want to get the AD700, I may have found them closer to my budget at $110, but going over budget also messes up the fact that I need a mic. That's why the The Samson/Superlux would have been great since it fits by budget even better. So are these two headphones the same thing?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-HD668B-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B003JOETX8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1385953994&sr=8-4&keywords=Superlux

 

http://www.amazon.com/SR850-Professional-Studio-Reference-Headphones/dp/B002LBSEQS

 

I still haven't gotten a straight answer as to whether my "sound box" is a good enough piece of hardware to even take advantage of any of these headphone.

 

This is what I am using

http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=29-180-006&Tpk=encore%20electronics%207.1%20audio%20box

 

So if not the AD700 or those other ones then maybe the sennheiser 558 modded would be good?

 

Lastly what DX mic are you referring to?

 

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I really do want to get the AD700, I may have found them closer to my budget at $110, but going over budget also messes up the fact that I need a mic. That's why the The Samson/Superlux would have been great since it fits by budget even better. So are these two headphones the same thing?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-HD668B-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B003JOETX8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1385953994&sr=8-4&keywords=Superlux

 

http://www.amazon.com/SR850-Professional-Studio-Reference-Headphones/dp/B002LBSEQS

 

I still haven't gotten a straight answer as to whether my "sound box" is a good enough piece of hardware to even take advantage of any of these headphone.

 

This is what I am using

http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=29-180-006&Tpk=encore%20electronics%207.1%20audio%20box

 

So if not the AD700 or those other ones then maybe the sennheiser 558 modded would be good?

 

Lastly what DX mic are you referring to?

 

 

The reason the AD700 have gone up in price is because they're discontinued.  They used to be always available for ~$95, but now that they're discontinued they've shot up in price making them not so great a deal anymore.  They have been replaced by the AD700x.

 

HD558's are good.  If that's all over your budget, you can try the Samson SR850 (yes, they're the same as the superlux 668), or the Takstar Hi2050.  The Takstar has to ship from China though.

 

I have no idea what that "sound box" is.  It says it can pass Dolby Digital out through the optical in the back, so - in theory - you might be able plus a Ear Force DSS 1 into it and get surround.  Or just buy a Asus U3 + an amp.

 

The deal extreme mic (DX) is on the first post under "external microphones".

http://dx.com/p/mini-clip-on-microphone-7080

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The reason the AD700 have gone up in price is because they're discontinued.  They used to be always available for ~$95, but now that they're discontinued they've shot up in price making them not so great a deal anymore.  They have been replaced by the AD700x.

 

Which I would have assume (The AD700x) would be the same thing or better, but according to people on here they are not. I really wish they weren't discontinued or had a true same priced successor.

 

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

HD558's are good.  If that's all over your budget, you can try the Samson SR850 (yes, they're the same as the superlux 668), or the Takstar Hi2050.  The Takstar has to ship from China though.

 

the HD558's can max my budget by buying it use for about $104ish and with the mic option you show later I wont mind that so long as I don't need anything else which comes into question in the next part of this post. Which of these options require an amp (AD700, HD558, Samson SR850/Superlux/Takstar)?

 

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I have no idea what that "sound box" is.  It says it can pass Dolby Digital out through the optical in the back, so - in theory - you might be able plus a Ear Force DSS 1 into it and get surround.  Or just buy a Asus U3 + an amp.

 

I have an an Ear Force DSS 1 ( I believe its a 1 it came with my Turtle Beach PX21's) and was actually my setup, which I mentioned on one of my first few posts. I had an optical cord going from the Ear Force DSS 1 to the optical port on the "sound box" that connected to my computer. How do I test if that was a good setup or not? Kinda hard now without a good set of headphones.

 

 

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The deal extreme mic (DX) is on the first post under "external microphones".

http://dx.com/p/mini-clip-on-microphone-7080

 

Ah I must have missed that my b. So yea that definite fits a budget lol.

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Originally Posted by Bakuryu View Post
 

 

Which I would have assume (The AD700x) would be the same thing or better, but according to people on here they are not. I really wish they weren't discontinued or had a true same priced successor.

 

What have you read saying they're different?  FWIR they sound pretty similar.

 

 

the HD558's can max my budget by buying it use for about $104ish and with the mic option you show later I wont mind that so long as I don't need anything else which comes into question in the next part of this post. Which of these options require an amp (AD700, HD558, Samson SR850/Superlux/Takstar)?

 

It sounds like you trying to rule out any headphone that "requires" an amp.  All headphones are going to benefit from a better amp, but the high ohm or low sensitivity ones are the ones that really need one to sound good.  They just don't get enough volume without one.  No heapdhones under 100 are going to be that critical of amping.  The HD558 and the Superlux are both around 50 ohms so they will benefit slightly more from an amp, but it's not an issue like it is with 300 ohm mid fi headphones or the low sensitivity AKGs or Planar phones.  AD700s are notorious for being extremely easy to drive.  Don't know about the Samsons, but they're 32 ohms so they should be pretty easy.

 

In this price bracket, I wouldn't let any amp requirements affect your decision. 

 

 

I have an an Ear Force DSS 1 ( I believe its a 1 it came with my Turtle Beach PX21's) and was actually my setup, which I mentioned on one of my first few posts. I had an optical cord going from the Ear Force DSS 1 to the optical port on the "sound box" that connected to my computer. How do I test if that was a good setup or not? Kinda hard now without a good set of headphones.

 

That's simple:  The DSS has a Dolby Digital "DD" light on it.  If the "DD" light IS lit up, then it is working correctly.  Anything else (like the "PLIIX" light) means the DSS is NOT getting the required Dolby Digital 5.1 signal, and therefore won't be able to produce surround sound.  If the "Dolby Bypass" light is ON, then push the bypass button and see if it jumps over to "DD" or "PLIIX".

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I've been using my ATH-AD700X for gaming the last few months, but the cable appears to be broken in one area. I'd really rather prefer to just buy a new headphone rather than to pay someone to repair it (I don't trust myself), and I've been looking at either another pair of the AD700X's or the HD598s. I want some opinions on which headphone to get, for gaming. I'll listen to music every now and then but gaming is the main priority.

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I've been using my ATH-AD700X for gaming the last few months, but the cable appears to be broken in one area. I'd really rather prefer to just buy a new headphone rather than to pay someone to repair it (I don't trust myself), and I've been looking at either another pair of the AD700X's or the HD598s. I want some opinions on which headphone to get, for gaming. I'll listen to music every now and then but gaming is the main priority.

I think the HD558 is a better value ($128.50).

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Shouldn't the AD700(X) be closer to $60-85?

 

At $100 or more, it's already overpriced and facing too much competition in that price range.

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The AD700s were always hovering around $100 for me. The AD700x is $129.
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Finally got around to doing the DIY Xbox One headset adapter mod.

 

Got it working without any soldering. Just cut the wire off an old 360 headset and cut the wire from the Xbone headset. Both wires are identical (if you use the offical 360 headset that came with your old xbox) so it's easy to match up the colors and connect them together.

 

The official adapter might give better quality sound, but this will do just fine until the adapter finally comes out next year.

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For those who need a chat cable for the Mixamp 5.8. Axel?

http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=/ID=15447/SID=94998073/productdetails.html

edit: Just noticed... it's a foreign site...

In any case, PS4 chat functions are seriously stupid. And counter intuitive.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/2/13 at 4:33am
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