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post #18031 of 26204
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Originally Posted by spooky655 View Post
 

Any chance you've listen to Dark Side of the Moon on the MA900s? It is one of my listening pleasures, so I'm curious to know how it would sound.

Can anyone comment on this?

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^download vs upload. He probably wouldn't get host, but it ought to be doable with FiOS or something. I thought that the PS4 could record then upload later? Still, it was fun commenting and have Mad reply live in the stream. Lol almost as soon as I started following the stream, he said "Heeeeey Evs!" and then "Surround seems pretty good in Dolby headphone with this game, probably would work well for THX too." (Tho honestly I was more interested in the PS4 and just seeing how he plays a game, he's a good shot and it's just kinda fun to watch someone you just talk to in action).


Mad, I'd be interested in your view on Ghosts. Amazon reviews are hating on the popular franchise, but everyone I've actually talked with in person actually likes it after a few games adjustment. CoD4 with stopping power Is where I've been playing for years... so reports of powerful guns killing in two or one shots sounds normal to me, and I like the idea that the maps have multiple routes and fewer choke points. Another thing that people have "hated" but sounds like a good highlight to me is the de-emphasis on air suppression kill streaks, I always thought that the relentless airborne death took away from the regular gunplay. A mode like Black Ops' sticks and stones would be really addictive for me...
post #18033 of 26204
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

^download vs upload. He probably wouldn't get host, but it ought to be doable with FiOS or something. I thought that the PS4 could record then upload later?

 

 

Hmm...my connection lags especially hard whenever someone is uploading on the network. 

 

Regardless, the record-then-upload-later option sounds much better for everyone involved in the match (lag-wise). 

post #18034 of 26204
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Can anyone comment on this?
Well I didn't demo that album on the MA900 while I borrowed it, but I love it on my Q701's (and thus also on my K712) because it reveals all the funny little details like the beginning of "Money" and yet really rocks out when the album picks up. I think that, from what I did hear on the MA900, it would be a little bit more laid back (but easier to listen to for a longer time) and do a great job letting you contemplate the vocals and separating out the different instruments. Another general strength of the MA900 is invoking a sense of space... but DSOTM already separates sounds a lot by panning them from ear-to-ear or putting a sound only in one ear, so it might be hard with that album to picture/imagine a room with an instrument here, there, and there. If you're currently listening with a pair of earbuds or average headphone, the MA900 has all the chops to blow you away.
post #18035 of 26204

I usually listen to music with Klipsch S4 IEMs, but I do have a Harman Kardon AVR-146 receiver with a 5.1 speaker setup. I'm hoping to somewhat replicate that experience on my desktop computer.


Edited by spooky655 - 11/19/13 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

Currently the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z (SB1500, retail box), for $100, seems to be a good value for what your get.

The SB1500 comes with a shielding over part of the card and also comes with a microphone.

 

Does it matter if the headphones are open or closed?

Thanks for your response.

 

It does matter to me that the headphones are closed, as I plan on attending several LAN events in the future with my setup.

 

I can't have outside noise getting in the way.

 

Would that Sound Blaster Z be ideal for such low ohm headphones?

 

 

I'm basically looking for a setup similar to what LiamIV just described above.

 

I need highly competitive directional sound, but I'd like a rich full sound for when I'm relaxing and playing RPGs and such.


Edited by Slog - 11/18/13 at 8:11pm
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Has anyone tried the Q701 with the bass port mod and Annie pads at the same time? How did it sound?

post #18038 of 26204
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

You can't expect a huge, deep soundstage with deep, powerful bass. There are always tradeoffs. A good middle ground is the Fidelio X1, but if you want deeper bass, get the HE-400 with velour pads (buy the velour pads off the Head-Direct website).

I do hope you have the right amping, Mixamp, etc. Seriously, I'd start with the Fidelio X1, as that may be all the headphone you will ever need, and better gaming performer than the HE-400.

Ok, so I just bought CoD ghosts digitally. Probably start streaming it tomorrow.

I ordered the Astro Mixamp Pro 2013, and in your review you said that the Fidelio should work fine just with the Mixamp. 

 

Thanks so much for your help! Figured it's best to just go straight to an expert for this information. Ended up going with the Philips. 

 

Thanks again, 
Liam

post #18039 of 26204
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Originally Posted by Slog View Post

Thanks for your response.

It does matter to me that the headphones are closed, as I plan on attending several LAN events in the future with my setup.

I can't have outside noise getting in the way.

Would that Sound Blaster Z be ideal for such low ohm headphones?


I'm basically looking for a setup similar to what LiamIV just described above.

I need highly competitive directional sound, but I'd like a rich full sound for when I'm relaxing and playing RPGs and such.
If you want the best of both, you're gonna need two headphones... Sorry to break it to ya.

The MA900 would be a great choice for relaxing with a full body, but for a closed can you'd probably be best served by something with a fair bit of treble sparkle (especially in a loud environ) and air, so a bit less bass (which closed headphones naturally/usually have more bass). I'm not quite sure which closed can to recommend, I haven't often been in that situation... from my experience though, if you really need to shut out the outside world and focus on the audio, nothing beats the abilities of an IEM. Joker has a huge thread of IEM reviews, so look there for one with good treble extension and pretty neutral bass (or see if you'd be allowed to EQ down the bass a bit). For a closed headphone, I have a V-MODA M-100, which has actually a good sense of positional imaging IMO, but the bass is a little "fun" for competitive use, and long-term you need to give your ears a break. From what I read, the XL Earpads decrease the bass while increasing soundstage and comfort, so one day I'll probably pick a pair of those up, but keep in mind the M-100 is a $300 closed headphone.

When you go to these LAN events, are you bringing a desktop (m-atx sized?) with an available internal PCI express card slot, or a laptop? If you need a small, external, easy to transport surround processor and DAC, the Sound Blaster Omni may be a better choice for you.

I don't know what the Omni's output impedance is, since it's one of Creative's most recent products, but if you're ever worried about output impedance mismatch, pick up an external amp with low output Ohms, like the cheap FiiO E5 or a more expensive amp to match your headphones. Side note: the Sony MA900 has an impedance compensator, so that one doesn't need special consideration in that way.
post #18040 of 26204
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Originally Posted by vsha View Post
 

Has anyone tried the Q701 with the bass port mod and Annie pads at the same time? How did it sound?

 

I've tried it on the K712.

 

Basically the mod is going to make the bass a tad rumblier.  The pads add overall warmth, and the mod adds a tad more bass rumble ontop of that.

post #18041 of 26204
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

I've tried it on the K712.

Basically the mod is going to make the bass a tad rumblier.  The pads add overall warmth, and the mod adds a tad more bass rumble ontop of that.

I know I still ought to swap back to the Q701 pads, but are there any other mods to create the reverse effect of the bass port mod?
post #18042 of 26204
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Originally Posted by Slog View Post
 

It does matter to me that the headphones are closed, as I plan on attending several LAN events in the future with my setup.

I can't have outside noise getting in the way.

Would that Sound Blaster Z be ideal for such low ohm headphones?

I'm basically looking for a setup similar to what LiamIV just described above.

I need highly competitive directional sound, but I'd like a rich full sound for when I'm relaxing and playing RPGs and such.

The SB-Z & SB-Zx (Sound Blaster Z & Zx) headphone output impedance is 22-Ohms, so technically you would want to use a headphone with an impedance of 176-Ohms or higher, but I'm sure there are people in the world using headphones with less then 176-Ohms, with their SB-Z, like in the 32-Ohm to 65-Ohm range.

Anyway, there is the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250-Ohm headphones.

post #18043 of 26204
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


I know I still ought to swap back to the Q701 pads, but are there any other mods to create the reverse effect of the bass port mod?


I don't think so.

 

And yes, you should.  ;)

post #18044 of 26204

Where is the Alpha dog at in this. didn't MAD lust review them along with matt?

post #18045 of 26204

I really must recommend the Audio Technica ATH-A900X, or ATH-W1000X, priced at $189 and $499 from AudioCubes [or $399 off Amazon/Ebay]

I think the 900X, is very good for a closed headphone, runs well practically off anything, incl. the Asus U3, and is quite sturdy 

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