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post #17866 of 24509
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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post
 

So its basically a mixamp, but for laptop or pc?

Yes, I usually plugged my aune via usb, so it bypass the on-board sound card. My laptop only got the crappy Realtek sound card, no optic output. The U3 come with optic dongle, so I can plug it to my Aune via optic out from laptop usb.

So the U3 is best with movie and gaming, not good for music?

So basically the U3 is "Mix-amp" that uses a USB connection (for a desktop or laptop)

 

The U3 will really have no effect on the "audio quality", when it's connected optically to the Aune T1.

For 2-channel audio, like music, all the U3 is doing is passing along the digital audio signal, to the Aune T1.

Try using the program Foobar2000, it's good for sending a audio signal, from a computer's the USB port (or a computer optical or coaxial port)

 

When using the U3 for surround sound for gaming and movies, the U3 will process the 6-channels (5.1) of digital audio

down to 2-channels of Dolby headphone surround sound, which is passed to the Aune T1, where the Aune T1 handles "audio quality", using it's own DAC and amp.

post #17867 of 24509

Well, I will use it mainly for gaming...

Movie I will test it later.

post #17868 of 24509
Thread Starter 
I have mentioned countless times that I use the Xonar U3 myself.

It is basically a Mixamp for any computer.

Hook it up via USB, and boom, instant Dolby Headphone, even for the worst/cheapest netbook in existence.

As mentioned, you can set the U3 in the software to outout a digital signal with dolby headphone, so you can attach another dac/amp, so that way you can have a better quality dac and amp, instead of the crappy ones built in to the U3.

The U3 has a horribly large output impedance of 23ohms, so it will affect the frequency of almost every headphone you connect to it. You will want to use another dac/amp with it, for optimal quality. I attach the Fiio E17 to it, via the U3's optical out to the E17's optical in.

It doesn't matter how horrible the U3 is, because you will ONLY be using it to turn the audio signal to dolby headphone. That is ALL it will do, as you will be bypassing the dac and amp and using your own. However, if you use the U3 and attach JUST an amp, then you will be using the U3's dac. Or if using the U3 alone, then of course, you're limited to the U3's dac and amp. The amp is NOT good, so I'd advise on getting at least something like a Fiio D03k optical dac ($30 or so), and a Fiio E5 ($20) to bypass the U3's inferior dac/amp. Of course, if you want the simplest solution with no clutter, U3+E17 is the better choice, more powerful, cleaner...
post #17869 of 24509
Thanks for the explanation. I will use it with the aune x1.
So it will be laptop usb--u3 optic out--aune x1 dac/amp optic in--fidelio x1.
post #17870 of 24509
Hey guys,
Just a heads-up on the PX5 DSS transmitter.
Tested with the ATH-A900X and the noise floor is very, very low!
At high listening levels there is none. Only in the last 1/3 of the volume pot, there is very slight noise, but it's hardly hearable when no music is playing and it's way too load of a volume to use anyway.
In comparison to my PC soundcard output, it's might and day in terms of noise!
Very impressive in this regard as I believe the 900X are rather sensitive.
Edited by conquerator2 - 11/11/13 at 12:02am
post #17871 of 24509
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Well, vikaman hasn't stated his sound preferences, I just mentioned the AD700 pros & cons to confirm what he/she has found from previous research. In a surround gaming audio thread, I make the assumption that surround and soundstage are important, and the AD700 (and Sony MA900) have the best soundstaging I've heard. And, I don't know how much a Sennheiser HD558 is in Europe, but £85 sounds like a high-enough price for the AD700x (my old-style purple AD700 were $80 US), I thought the HD558 cost a fair bit more. Still, the HD558 bass has better extension than the AD700x (I think) and may be more fun with music.

The FiiO E5/6 was just a suggestion to round-out the AD700, I personally enjoyed music more with the humble amp attached, but it is an optional purchase. No harm in trying a headphone without it first, and an amp could always be added later. Would be a good way to learn the difference made by output impedance. However, on that note, the AD700 didn't sound "bad" out from my Yamaha receiver either, and 32 ohms resistance isn't that different than 50 ohms, especially if you're trying to keep the 1/8 output to input impedance ratio suggestions.

Ha. Sorry, I had started a thread earlier requesting information for a gaming + rock music set up with surround sound. PurpleAngel is aware of that thread.

 

The incredible thing is that that the AD700x is £85 but with shipping and customs it becomes around £120. Local AD700x's cost around £180! It makes so sense.

The HD558 is £115 outright. 

 

But yes, I have a rock/classical preference with occasional gaming that relies on positional sound. 

 

In my thread I started out with the Grado SR60i, slowly moving away from that notion.

post #17872 of 24509
Conq,
What do you think of the A900x's size? Cool to hear the PX5 processor is good smily_headphones1.gif

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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post

I want to ask regarding the U3. So the xonar U3 is like a mixamp solution for laptop with onboard soundcard right? It emulate surround like mixamp in laptop, just like mixamp with console?
So if in my case is laptop usb -  u3 optic out - optic in aune x1 - fidelio x1.
Yisss...

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Originally Posted by vikaman View Post

Ha. Sorry, I had started a thread earlier requesting information for a gaming + rock music set up with surround sound. PurpleAngel is aware of that thread.

The incredible thing is that that the AD700x is £85 but with shipping and customs it becomes around £120. Local AD700x's cost around £180! It makes so sense.
The HD558 is £115 outright. 

But yes, I have a rock/classical preference with occasional gaming that relies on positional sound. 

In my thread I started out with the Grado SR60i, slowly moving away from that notion.
I mean, I bought my dad a pair of Grado SR60 (before the i version), he loves them and I liked what I heard. They're large on-ear headphones though, so personal comfort preferences come into play.
The HD558 is no bad choice, if you listen to music more than gaming the HD558 may be better as a well-rounded choice. Sennheiser's top gaming headset is based on the HD558 with a mic added, iirc. I used the AD700 for 3 years, it was very good but eventually I realized I personally preferred a little more forward headphone. Once you get your headphone, you'll be able to make your own call (though tbh you'll probably be pleased whichever nice headphone you try first smily_headphones1.gif ).
post #17873 of 24509
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

You might consider skipping on the E5 and AD700X and get the HD558 and plugging the HD558 directly into the U3.

I believe the U3's headphone amplifier is ok for headphones up to 150-Ohms.

The HD5XX series seems to do well with FPS gaming, comes with a decent amount more bass then my Audio Technica ATH-AD700s.

And the HD558s are 50-Ohm and are not as negatively affected by high impedance, my HD558 sound fair good plugged into my Yamaha receivers high impedance headphone output.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I mean, I bought my dad a pair of Grado SR60 (before the i version), he loves them and I liked what I heard. They're large on-ear headphones though, so personal comfort preferences come into play.
The HD558 is no bad choice, if you listen to music more than gaming the HD558 may be better as a well-rounded choice. Sennheiser's top gaming headset is based on the HD558 with a mic added, iirc. I used the AD700 for 3 years, it was very good but eventually I realized I personally preferred a little more forward headphone. Once you get your headphone, you'll be able to make your own call (though tbh you'll probably be pleased whichever nice headphone you try first smily_headphones1.gif ).

 

Thanks for the help everyone!

 

Think I'm settling for the AD700x. I've had a Senn HD555 before and the crack that formed on the headband freaked me out constantly, not too keen on reliving that on a HD558 (unless it doesn't occur on these headphones).

 

Think my final setup will be: Xonar U3 -> Fiio E6 -> AD700x.

 

AD700x: http://www.eglobaldigitalstore.co.uk/audio-technica-ath-ad700x-open-air-dynamic-headphones.html

Xonar U3: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Xonaru3-Mobile-USB-Soundcard/dp/B004ZI5E1S

Fiio E6: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FiiO-E6-Fujiyama-IPod-and-MP3-Headphone-Amplifier-FREE-UK-POSTAGE-/300894883753?pt=UK_CE_MP3Access_RL&hash=item460ebb8fa9

 

 

Total comes up to around ~£160, which is well within my budget! Just praying the AD700x website is legit because that's apparently phenomenally cheap; the average price I've seen everwhere else is a £160-180.

post #17874 of 24509
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Originally Posted by vikaman View Post
 

Think I'm settling for the AD700x. I've had a Senn HD555 before and the crack that formed on the headband freaked me out constantly, not too keen on reliving that on a HD558 (unless it doesn't occur on these headphones).

 

Think my final setup will be: Xonar U3 -> Fiio E6 -> AD700x.

I believe the Sennheiser cracking problem was resolved a few years ago.

I've had my HD558s for a few years, no cracking problem.

post #17875 of 24509
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

Hey guys,
Just a heads-up on the PX5 DSS transmitter.
Tested with the ATH-A900X and the noise floor is very, very low!

 

 

Is that base even available on its own (apart from buying a PX5 headset and having it come with it)?

post #17876 of 24509
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

 

Is that base even available on its own (apart from buying a PX5 headset and having it come with it)?

Some people claimed so.

The head-fiers supposedly saw some over at Ebay/Amazon.

post #17877 of 24509

So after a good amount of research and questioning what to purchase to power my AKG K712 Pros, I'm narrowed it down to the following list:

Audio-GD NFB-15.32
FiiO E17
iBasso D42 Mamba
JDS Labs Objective 2

Matrix M-stage

I understand these are of different price ranges for the most part, but what are your opinions on this list? If you had to choose ONE to purchase, which would it be? 

Thanks.
 


Edited by jtsanabria - 11/11/13 at 11:46am
post #17878 of 24509
Thread Starter 
I love A-Gd products, so I'd go for that, but you need to know that the 15.32 doesn't have an analog input, so you can't hook up a DAC or Mixamp to it. You'd have to get at least the Compass 2 to be able to use external devices. If you're a PC gamer, you can use something like the Xonar U3 to the 15.32 though.
post #17879 of 24509
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I love A-Gd products, so I'd go for that, but you need to know that the 15.32 doesn't have an analog input, so you can't hook up a DAC or Mixamp to it. You'd have to get at least the Compass 2 to be able to use external devices. If you're a PC gamer, you can use something like the Xonar U3 to the 15.32 though.


Would you recommend just purchasing the Compass 2 over the 15.32 then?

post #17880 of 24509

If you get the cheapest Xonar (internal or external), a SBZ Oem or a titanium (non-HD), you can then output to the 15.32/E17 via Spdif and retain the surround sound processing, eq etc from whatever's cards software. All depends on your favourite form of surround sound. This method means there will be no noise from the PC's innards transmitted to your digital signal.


Edited by SaLX - 11/11/13 at 1:31pm
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