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http://slickdeals.net/f/6366442-pyle-home-phe7ab-fiio-e7-usb-dac-portable-headphone-amplifier-49-99-fs-or-prime-amazon?src=pdw

pretty nice deal here. Anyone have and experience with this or the fiio e7? Supposedly this is a rebadged e7...
May look into something like this to hook up to my mixamp for gaming, and laptop for music. 
Little bit of info in case someone reading this doesn't know... The DAC could only be used with tmaxx's laptop, the amp part of the E7 is all anyone could use after a Mixamp. If tmaxx has better than a cheap $500 laptop, the DAC part of the E7 would make little improvement. The E7's amp section is basically equal to a FiiO E5, so if you REALLY want a bargain to add an amp to your mixamo, then just get the amp for like $25.
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Little bit of info in case someone reading this doesn't know... The DAC could only be used with tmaxx's laptop, the amp part of the E7 is all anyone could use after a Mixamp. If tmaxx has better than a cheap $500 laptop, the DAC part of the E7 would make little improvement. The E7's amp section is basically equal to a FiiO E5, so if you REALLY want a bargain to add an amp to your mixamo, then just get the amp for like $25.
Did he ever mention what headphones he's using? I missed it if he did...
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Yeah the E7 was a great external soundcard for my old 2008 MacBook, but not-so-great for my 2013 MacBook.

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^ didn't see which ones. I know Tmaxx has been in here before, but I forget if he made a choice. Some reason I'm thinking a DT?

Anyway, in this situation "is this a good DAC/amp combo?" Headphone choice doesn't really enter it. That is, even if he has a low impedance headphone, the amp has a really low output impedance. The amp might just be not powerful enough for a hard-to-drive can, but most of those headphones have their users looking at desktop amps.
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The E7 doesn't have an OEM. Fiio makes their own, and someone copied them. You're not getting the same exact device. Build could be worse, etc.
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^ didn't see which ones. I know Tmaxx has been in here before, but I forget if he made a choice. Some reason I'm thinking a DT?

Anyway, in this situation "is this a good DAC/amp combo?" Headphone choice doesn't really enter it. That is, even if he has a low impedance headphone, the amp has a really low output impedance. The amp might just be not powerful enough for a hard-to-drive can, but most of those headphones have their users looking at desktop amps.

good memory smily_headphones1.gif im using the 2013 mixamp pro and beyerdynamic mmx300 headset for gaming on the ps3 and soon to be, ps4.wink.gif My laptop is the new Alienware 14. Problem is that my old alienware laptop either had a better dac, or better sound software, because i cant seem to get great sound out of my new laptop. Either way i wqs looking at the e12 and e17, but still need to decide if i need something that expensive.

Also i recently got a new mixamp and the sound i am getting is much different then my previous mixamp even though they are identical models. now i have a bigger sound stage and easier positioning with more crisp highs, but less low end. maybe these have a "break in" period?

thanks again guys for any input!
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good memory smily_headphones1.gif im using the 2013 mixamp pro and beyerdynamic mmx300 headset for gaming on the ps3 and soon to be, ps4.wink.gif My laptop is the new Alienware 14. Problem is that my old alienware laptop either had a better dac, or better sound software, because i cant seem to get great sound out of my new laptop. Either way i wqs looking at the e12 and e17, but still need to decide if i need something that expensive.

Also i recently got a new mixamp and the sound i am getting is much different then my previous mixamp even though they are identical models. now i have a bigger sound stage and easier positioning with more crisp highs, but less low end. maybe these have a "break in" period?

thanks again guys for any input!

 

Gets an Alienware 14, says E12/E17 is somewhat expensive.

What am I missing? :veryevil:

OT - yes there could be break-in period for the Mixamp, yes your older laptop could have had better hardware/software.

I think the Fiio amps are great value but you can find other for similar prices. 

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I have an Alienware M17x R4... and I use my E17.

Do the new Alienwares still use the Recond 3Di, or are they using some new soundcard?

The 3Di was a bit weak in comparison to the E17's amp. The DAC however (IIRC) was 24/192. Since i can't text the Recon 3Di's dac without being attached to the internal amp, I can't say how good or bad it is. I like it well enough for gaming, as when I'm away from home U use the Recon 3Di through the headphone out to my E17's aux in, so I can keep THX tru Studio for gaming.
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Something which came up on another thread... it would be helpful to some people if your top post included a list of "recommended closed headphones for gaming".   It's not unusual for someone to have a situation where they share a room with another family member, so they can only use a headphone that has good isolation.

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Gets an Alienware 14, says E12/E17 is somewhat expensive.

What am I missing? :veryevil:

OT - yes there could be break-in period for the Mixamp, yes your older laptop could have had better hardware/software.

I think the Fiio amps are great value but you can find other for similar prices. 

Haha you bring up a good point, but I sold my previous alienware to get the new one. And i hope there is a break in period, because I miss the tight bass that i was getting. When bass hits it almost seems like the mixamp is clipping/distorting the signal, and I have tried all the EQ settings. Sounds like bass notes are muffled in a sense and are rolling off, rather than hitting that punchy bass like it used to.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I have an Alienware M17x R4... and I use my E17.

Do the new Alienwares still use the Recond 3Di, or are they using some new soundcard?

The 3Di was a bit weak in comparison to the E17's amp. The DAC however (IIRC) was 24/192. Since i can't text the Recon 3Di's dac without being attached to the internal amp, I can't say how good or bad it is. I like it well enough for gaming, as when I'm away from home U use the Recon 3Di through the headphone out to my E17's aux in, so I can keep THX tru Studio for gaming.

The Alienware 14 uses Realtek HD audio and Dolby Home Theater v4 software. I think it may be the software, because I think the previous models used the same reltek hd audio, but when i activated and configured my soundblaster software, it saved my sound.(on my old laptop) This  Dolby Home theater makes the laptop sound good, but when headphones are hooked up it sounds terrible. ie no bass and soundstage is gone. 

 

MLE, i saw you had the e12 as well, would you think I need that much power for powering the mmx300 on music/gaming or could i get away with the e17, or something cheaper for that matter?


Edited by tmaxx123 - 10/28/13 at 10:47am
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The E17 should be decent enough with it.
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Well my cable for the hd558 craped out on me and I need a new one.
Anyone know where I can find a shorter version of the cable without that damn adapter at the end.

Also the monoprice 8320's are not for me since they get extremely painful in my ears after after a few minutes, I'm thinking of going for the Koss KSC75 but since there open I don know if there great outside, so are there any decent IEM's for $50 just in case?
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Well my cable for the hd558 craped out on me and I need a new one.
Anyone know where I can find a shorter version of the cable without that damn adapter at the end.

Also the monoprice 8320's are not for me since they get extremely painful in my ears after after a few minutes, I'm thinking of going for the Koss KSC75 but since there open I don know if there great outside, so are there any decent IEM's for $50 just in case?

I can recommend the KSC75, SportaPro and PortaPro for sure.  Also, for good sub-$50 IEMs look into Vsonic VSD1, SteelSeries Flux, Sony MH1C, LG Quadbeat.  Also, the LG Quadbeat 2 looks promising and can be found on Ebay pretty easily:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/686412/lg-quadbeat-2-appreciation-thread

 

There are replacement cables for those Senns on Ebay as well:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Cable-For-Sennheiser-HD598-HD558-HD518-Headphone-/261255113290

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I'm very interested in the Skullcandy Slyrs now after reading your review. Honestly, I would have never considered them prior. I'd love to see them make an open version. Would be perfect! I plan on purchasing them here soon, I'll report back with my impressions.

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So I was able to demo the Momentum On Ear...



I expected more in both comfort and especially sound. What a let down. Sounded boomy, hollowed out in the mids, and thin up top. Just... no.
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