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post #17416 of 26190
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post


I have a Xonar DX and the MA900, yes it is enough, I do like them more with an amp though. I don't have the K612 but it is my next headphone, not sure when I'm getting it though. Whenever I do get the K612, I will be comparing the MA900 and K612.

Sweet, man!
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post #17417 of 26190
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Yeah, sure Conq, nobody's saying they're BAD headphones, and if you've already got your mind set then I think you will enjoy them. If your head isn't quite wide, you can improve comfort by bending the "bars" slightly to make the pads rest flush against the side of your head. Some people like to wind a rubber band between the "wings" too.

Yeah, read that.

I hope they will fit from the get go. If not, then some tweaking will take place. Not gonna give up on them easily.

It's just that MLE said they were rather terrible but the way he described them just don't fit anything I read. And there are positive reviews on these throughout... Well, as far as sound quality goes :D

 

I guess he just didn't like them for some reason. Well, we all hear differently :]

 

Anyway, I'll report back to confirm if it's truth or fiction :]

Soon...

 

Cya then, and thanks :]

post #17418 of 26190
Thread Starter 
Impressions are almost always glowing on every headphone reviewed wherever you go. Headphone reviews almost never border on the negative side. Negative reviews tend to be from people who whine about the headphone breaking on them, and not about actual quality.

I haven't had an extensive time with the A900x, but all I know is that for the price... I'd easily go for cheaper headphones which definitely sound better to me.

We do all hear things differently, but I like to believe my impressions tend to fit the general impression of headphones, when it comes to sound signature and overall quality.

The A900x came off as rather boring and overpriced. It lacked energy, impact, and weight. It sounded rather flat and just.... there. There was nothing engaging about it's sound. Not the bass, not the mids, not the soundstage, nothing. If I wanted something bland, I'd have paid less than $100 for something else that isn't going to inspire me in any way.

I found the Audio technica's own ESW9 to be much more engaging and lively, with better impact, better interpretation of vocals, and a great tonality. Yes, it's on ear, but it trumps the A900x in everything but sheer size.

As for the K550, I won't even go there. It seems so ridiculously sensitive to seal and placement, I call it a fail in design. I literally had to press the cups to my ears to hear anything remotely worthwhile. If I let it sit there... it was... just not good.

I tell you what, I'll go to a few different stores and demo both again, and take my E17 again. I'll give them a longer demo. I don't expect my impressions to change, but I will at least attempt to hone in on the specific qualities of it (or lack therof). it's been awhile since I heard them. All I know, is that they did nothing for me every single time.

Nothing will ever be fully proven as it is a Magnolia section demo (the Magnolia sections near where I live are actually pretty quiet), but if the ESW9, Momentum, and HD558 can impress at the store, I see no reason why the A900x shouldn't.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/19/13 at 3:01pm
post #17419 of 26190
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Impressions are almost always glowing on every headphone reviewed wherever you go. Headphone reviews almost never border on the negative side. Negative reviews tend to be from people who whine about the headphone breaking on them, and not about actual quality.

I haven't had an extensive time with the A900x, but all I know is that for the price... I'd easily go for cheaper headphones which definitely sound better to me.

We do all hear things differently, but I like to believe my impressions tend to fit the general impression of headphones, when it comes to sound signature and overall quality.

The A900x came off as rather boring and overpriced. It lacked energy, impact, and weight. It sounded rather flat and just.... there. There was nothing engaging about it's sound. Not the bass, not the mids, not the soundstage, nothing. If I wanted something bland, I'd have paid less than $100 for something else that isn't going to inspire me in any way.

I found the Audio technica's own ESW9 to be much more engaging and lively, with better impact, better interpretation of vocals, and a great tonality. Yes, it's on ear, but it trumps the A900x in everything but sheer size.

As for the K550, I won't even go there. It seems so ridiculously sensitive to seal and placement, I call it a fail in design. I literally had to press the cups to my ears to hear anything remotely worthwhile. If I let it sit there... it was... just not good.

I tell you what, I'll go to a few different stores and demo both again, and take my E17 again. I'll give them a longer demo. I don't expect my impressions to change, but I will at least attempt to hone in on the specific qualities of it (or lack therof). it's been awhile since I heard them. All I know, is that they did nothing for me every single time.

OK, MLE. That would actually be awesome.

 

But I find that impression... I dunno, strange.

 

Every review is subjective  of course but if you search for them here on head-fi, there are like 4 reviews and I went pretty much through countless google searches and read many review on them and the words "boring" or "bland" or "not lively"... They just don't fit there. They ain't there.

Treble - extended, detailed, beautiful

Midrange - full, luscious

Lows - punchy, tight, sometimes a bit too pronounced, roll-off bellow 50hz, so not very extended I guess, EQ helps there if problematic

Soundstage - awesome for a closed can, more wide than deep but very well defined

Instrument separation - great, easily pin-pointable

 

Great for music, gaming & movies...

 

That's pretty much what pretty much every review said.

Energetic, fun but still close to balanced, slightly south of neutral.

 

It's just the polar opposite of what you said, that's what bothers me.

 

SAID THAT, there have been quite a few defective pairs. Maybe the one you demoed were? I know two batches were defective, or at least a good bunch of these [namely 03 and 05-2012 I think].

These might exhibit such flaws. Don't really know...

 

I am not questioning your ears. Perhaps, you have different preferences? My reference headphone is the HE-6.

But a guy here has a similar setup to me and found the A-900X very good for their price [in comparison to the HE-6 for instance] so... I just dunno.

 

I guess. Yeah, if you could demo them once again, that'd be great :] 

post #17420 of 26190
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Impressions are almost always glowing on every headphone reviewed wherever you go. Headphone reviews almost never border on the negative side. Negative reviews tend to be from people who whine about the headphone breaking on them, and not about actual quality.
This is an important point. You can see why it happens though; whenever someone knocks a hp, they get a disproportionate amount if backlash for it.
post #17421 of 26190
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There is no advancement if all you ever hear is glowing reviews. I try my best to be honest when it comes to what sounds good and what doesn't.

Hell, Astro sent me the A50s, and I couldn't recommend that even if they gave me money.

I TRY to see the positive on a headphone even if I don't particularly like them overall (Nuforce HP-800).

There just wasn't anything that stuck out positively for me on both the K550 and A900x. Right next to both of those was the HD558. I didn't even LOVE the HD598 for anything other than competitive gaming, and nowadays, I'm doing my best to let people know if a headphone is a one trick pony or not (*cough*AD700*cough*). Yet the HD558 was well balanced, engaging, smooth, and airy. All this from a store demo... AND it's an open headphone. You'd think the impression would've been worse, not better.

The Momentum and ESW9 are also easily enjoyable, with no real need to focus and try to find some good traits. They shower you with good traits.
post #17422 of 26190

Yeah but it's right here. Search head-fi.

4 positive reviews, 1 negative due to fit but still comments positively on the sound.

No negative reviews on Amazon, Ebay, Youtube,... nowhere.

 

Even for some of the well acclaimed headphones I know, I'be always found a negative review somewhere around these sites.

 

With these, none. Just none and if there is, it's only the fit.

 

You are literary the first negative impression I read on them... They are regularly compared to some of your favorite HPs [K702s, Q701s, and DT-990 a lot]

 

And they come close to them with some redeeming quality to them. 4s and 5 stars...

 

I mean, go figure... I find that real strange... Praise, praise everywhere..

 

Now look for the AD-700/900 - lots of negative reviews among the positive ones... Hmmm, I don't have a clue :O

post #17423 of 26190
Maybe those are his impressions due to a bad fit? You guys seem under the impression that Mad is PURPOSELY bashing them. As he mentioned, all his reviews (like everyone else) are subjective to HIS opinion while still looking to point out the GOOD in a headphone no matter how much he dislikes it.

If the A900X sounded bland to him then it more than likely did. Why it did is what should be in question (bad fit?)... not him.
Edited by Change is Good - 10/19/13 at 3:37pm
post #17424 of 26190
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Maybe those are his impressions due to a bad fit? You guys seem under the impression that Mad is PURPOSELY bashing them. As he mentioned, all his reviews (like everyone else) are subjective to HIS opinion while still looking to point out the GOOD in a headphone no matter how much he dislikes it.

If the A900X sounded bland to him then it more than likely did. Why it did is what should be in question (bad fit?)... not him.

Well that is exactly what I am trying to find out...
That is why I pointed out a defective pair, etc.
I'm certainly not trying to imply he's trying to bash them.
post #17425 of 26190

Was wondering what sound card I should get when I buy my PC.

Right now my budget is around $50 but I want to know if its worth it now or wait to get more money for one?

post #17426 of 26190
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

There is no advancement if all you ever hear is glowing reviews. I try my best to be honest when it comes to what sounds good and what doesn't.

Hell, Astro sent me the A50s, and I couldn't recommend that even if they gave me money.

I TRY to see the positive on a headphone even if I don't particularly like them overall (Nuforce HP-800).

There just wasn't anything that stuck out positively for me on both the K550 and A900x. Right next to both of those was the HD558. I didn't even LOVE the HD598 for anything other than competitive gaming, and nowadays, I'm doing my best to let people know if a headphone is a one trick pony or not (*cough*AD700*cough*). Yet the HD558 was well balanced, engaging, smooth, and airy. All this from a store demo... AND it's an open headphone. You'd think the impression would've been worse, not better.

The Momentum and ESW9 are also easily enjoyable, with no real need to focus and try to find some good traits. They shower you with good traits.


That is true. I noticed too many positive reviews on so many headphones that I don't see why they get a good review, maybe because they do a couple things right. There are a couple headphones I dislike that are popular here because I felt they were one one trick ponies or just straight up boring or unpleasant to me. I have gotten some beef for bringing them up.

 

The HD 558 is basically a darker and warmer HD 598, right? I thought the HD 598 was nice but wasn't quite warm enough to be a true all-arounder. But it was a lot better than the HD 555, that is one boring and soulless headphone, I did not like it at all.

 

I agree with the Momentum, sounded good overall, if I were to be picky about the sound, it had a spike somewhere in the treble or upper midrange, but it is so uncomfortable, clamped too much and pressed the edges of my ears to my head, could only handle them 10 minutes on my head, I have a fairly big head and big ears. I liked the Momentum On-ear a lot better than the regular Momentum, much much more comfortable and I liked it's sound a little more.

post #17427 of 26190
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That is true. I noticed too many positive reviews on so many headphones that I don't see why they get a good review, maybe because they do a couple things right. There are a couple headphones I dislike that are popular here because I felt they were one one trick ponies or just straight up boring or unpleasant to me. I have gotten some beef for bringing them up.

The HD 558 is basically a darker and warmer HD 598, right? I thought the HD 598 was nice but wasn't quite warm enough to be a true all-arounder. But it was a lot better than the HD 555, that is one boring and soulless headphone, I did not like it at all.

I agree with the Momentum, sounded good overall, if I were to be picky about the sound, it had a spike somewhere in the treble or upper midrange, but it is so uncomfortable, clamped too much and pressed the edges of my ears to my head, could only handle them 10 minutes on my head, I have a fairly big head and big ears. I liked the Momentum On-ear a lot better than the regular Momentum, much much more comfortable and I liked it's sound a little more.

Yes I just find it weird for the reasons I mentioned above.
If a headphone does something badly enough there is bound to be a review somewhere... Most likely here but definitely some at Amazon and Google...

ATH-900X? Like what, 2 negative comments about the bass a bit too boomy sometimes, treble maybe a bit too hot at one point?
If anything it was because the headphone was found too exciting one way or another.

But no boring, bland, lifeless... None of that regard...
post #17428 of 26190
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

But I find that impression... I dunno, strange.

 

SAID THAT, there have been quite a few defective pairs. Maybe the one you demoed were?

 

I guess. Yeah, if you could demo them once again, that'd be great :] 

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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

Yeah but it's right here. Search head-fi.

4 positive reviews, 1 negative due to fit but still comments positively on the sound.

 

You are literary the first negative impression I read on them...

 

 

Conquerator, stop trying to convince MLE's that he should have enjoyed them and just try them for yourself. 

 

Trying to change MLE's mind about them is just a waste of time.  Maybe they didn't fit him right, or maybe he actually DID find them a bit bland sounding.  Either way, who cares. As long you like them that's ALL that matters, and the ONLY way you'll find that out is by actually trying them for yourself. 

post #17429 of 26190

Does the PC350 SE sound decent? I'm looking for a closed headset since there's a lot of background noise since I have to share a room.

post #17430 of 26190
Conq, if you want to buy a cans, try them yourself. Dont buy it based on other people review. Use the review as selection guide.
I learned my lesson with the m50. Every review said it sound good and comfy. When I bought it, the sound is not as good as reviewed imo and very cramped. Its also very uncomfortable for me, clampy, leather cup is hot and sweaty, and earcup not big enough. Even with mle strecth mod, the m50 is still very uncomfortable for me.
Not saying that the m50 is a garbage, but its just not for me. I also find that the audio technica ad series is comfortable, while many people bashing its wing system.
Dont take someone else review as an absolute point to buy a cans.
Edited by widdyjudas - 10/19/13 at 8:41pm
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