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It looks (and sounds) nice on the PC.  Definitely a few bugs and kinks to work out but it seems a little more robust overall than BF3 so far.  Hard to say which will play better at this point, but it runs pretty nicely on my rig.  Movements of just about everything feel more realistic. Oh, and there is some sweet explosion sub-bass... :D I'm not one to judge accurate positional cues but it seems better than BF3.  I hope it doesn't end up going the way of Warfighter...that was kind of a disgrace.

 

 

Remember I'm only talking about the PS3 version. The graphics just seem inferior compared to BF3 and looks like Warfighter to me. But I do have to agree that the audio has been refined, at least.

 

The way you describe the PC version, though, does sound promising. That is why I am waiting on the PS4 version with my fingers crossed...


Edited by Change is Good - 10/2/13 at 7:04pm
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The actual sounds on the BF4 beta PC are absolutely fantastic, a big step up from BF3. The X1 seems perfect for it, having a great time.

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Yesterday I finally had my first real gaming session (and generally my first game in months, finally) with the Fostex TH-900 and the Shadow Warrior Remake. I was a huge Shadow warrior nerd back in the day and played it several times, liked it much more than Duke Nukem. Liked the guns, that rocket nuke, the slicing with the sword and the funny speech. The remake handles the swordplay in a very stylish fashion (original was quite simple in it though still fun, swords against shooting enemies is always stylish) and introduces magic and passive boostsl. Anyway, yesterday...

 

You know, at the beginning of every stage/mission/chapter you can hear introductory drums and it's amazing with both HD 800 and TH 900 but I have to give the nod to the Fostex because the impact body can be "sensed" better. I know that the D7000 is similar to that but the Fostex is faster (and faster in general) in the lower departments so the sense of a body is much stronger. Heavy impact of bass and a fast attack/decay are two qualities that help create that sense. Headphones like the Signature DJ, X1 are not very fast down below so while the bass still contributes to the immersion it's rather a swimming pool of bass during many explosions and heavy guns or let's say the contures of the body are not really there, it's rather smeared, blurred and loose. In the above context I am not saying the HD 800 isn't fast, it just lacks the TH-900's impact.  

 

As you can expect coming from a D7000 the soundstage is very big and let me tell you it doesn't leave me wanting more in no way or fashion. I had a lot headphones so far and also some closed ones and yes, the TH-900 isn't really closed but in either way it trumps so many other headphones in soundstage. And that is not only by pure size (which is always not enough to judge) but by the general feel of space in all directions. Some headphones are oval, some are downright flat, congested (planars especially) or too weak in the middle that left and right are more pronounced and the middle part is like a hole (AKGs) but in this case there's none of it. As I mentioned a few posts earlier TH-900, HD 800 and T1 do it right. I call it phantom center. 

 

I had a long session last night and just woke up so I probably left out some more details about my experience but it feels good to have played a game for longer in all this time.

 

The only sad part about all this is the price of the TH-900. I really wish more people could enjoy it but since we are in gaming and not talking about Deutsche Grammophon records or Stockfisch the TH-600 seems to be quite good as well and looking over at pricejapan I think the price should be quite tempting for many here.

 

I will be playing more and more games over the next months and always compare the TH-900 with the HD 800, and possibly the Alpha Dogs. My English isn't good and fluent enough for a whole wall of text unfortunately so you have to bear with "snippets". 

 

All my impressions are always from my DAC. I really love the Anedio, it's one of the very very few DACs that also do the HPA output right, with 0 noise on multi balanced armatures. They have measurements up on their side in every detail. I compared to a ton of other DACs like Benchmark, Matrix, Yulong, Violectric and the damn importing fee was still worth it. For you Americans who are living in dreamland anyway (regarding hifi and home cinema prices) that deal is more than awesome.


Edited by Fegefeuer - 10/3/13 at 2:55am
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Having the Signature DJ and the K 702, I prefer the K 702 for any type of gaming, because I need to hear where the enemies are. That is where too much bass can annoy me. The Sig DJ however is my favotite music can.
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cool no probs and no hard feelings.. I was just injecting my 2 cents into the mix on how the headset  should be worn for maximum imaging that's all..I did not mean any ill intentions.. Also I would love hear your impresions on the imaging of the MA900 compaired to your Q701    "How it stacks up"..   I look forward to the comparison...
Uh, I really only compared the MA900 to the K712, and now the MA900 is boxed up to ship to Calpis. Is that alright? I suppose I could pull the Q701 and do a quick A/B... may be a good service as so e people find their price close enough. From previous experience though, I'd recommend the Q701 over the MA900 if price is within reach.


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Yes, I got a bit bored after the final map pack myself on PS3. I put it down for about a month and then it felt like a new game again lol. I, unfortunately, don't have the option to play that 64v64 beast of a PC version.

The BF4 beta on PS3 seems like it is nowhere near as polished as BF3. I know its only a beta but it kind of reminds me of Medal of Honor Warfighter which was a complete fail. The BF3 beta was more polished from what I remember. And don't get me started on how they changed the controls... grrrrrr... angry_face.gif
BF3 beta made me buy the game, before everyone got experienced with the game and started totally tank-owning everything (with repair and advanced unlocks). Some people complained tactical flashlights were OP in the beta tho. Looking forward to trying BF4, though the download will take a while.
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Ok, WELL, that was an interesting comparison.
Tell you guys all about it later though, gonna run to the post office. Literally.
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would you buy hd 439's?

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After owning the AD900x for a couple months, they started to bother me after an hour or so.  Started to slide down my head and feel a bit clamped.  Ordered an the MA900 to give it a shot.  I don't doubt you or a_recording!

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My K712 is here! Oh how I missed that openness...


Definitely a bit refined over the Anniversary but nothing major...
Edited by Change is Good - 10/4/13 at 1:37pm
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about the MA900,
how much do they benefit  from amping ?
and will the xonar u3 alone drive them well ?

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Thread Starter 
The MA900 sounds good off basically anything, including just off my Galaxy Note 2. The impedance compensator (the line of resistors inside of the MA900), will ensure that the frequency response won't stray far off from it's target response even with the incredibly high 23ohm U3.

The U3 is not much of an amp in any way, and I feel it's a bit on the thin side in sound, but that's not a problem for the MA900 which sounds like it always runs off a tube amp.

So yes, the U3 should be fine with the MA900, though I hope you plan on using something better at some point. The MA900 sounds great off the E17 (which in turn easily attaches to the U3's optical out, so you can use the U3 just as a Dolby processor for the E17). If the E07K had an optical input, I would've been happy with that too. Not too many spdif dacs at this price range, so it makes sense to recommend the E17, which is an all in one unit.
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I was already on the fence of end game when I had the Anniversary... but I think I may now just be there. You were right, chico, about the slight (yet improving) differences between it and the K712. I am able notice the slightly more refined and less peaky mids because I'm using my MDs to compare with like I did with the Anniversary.

 

I don't want to say it's end game just yet, though... and have to bite my words like someone I know... :p

 


Edited by Change is Good - 10/5/13 at 7:19pm
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Aww, no more horsies.

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

I was already on the fence of end game when I had the Anniversary... but I think I may now just be there. You were right, chico, about the slight (yet improving) differences between it and the K712. I am able notice the slightly more refined and less peaky mids because I'm using my MDs to compare with like I did with the Anniversary.

 

I don't want to say it's end game just yet, though... and have to bite my words like someone I know... :p

 

 

Glad you like them!

 

Yeah, they're mainly a slightly refined Anniversary with a few subtle changes that slightly improve upon it.

 

For me that makes them pretty much as good as it gets for mid-fi though.

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Glad you like them!

 

Yeah, they're mainly a slightly refined Anniversary with a few subtle changes that slightly improve upon it.

 

For me that makes them pretty much as good as it gets for mid-fi though.

 

 

And mid-fi is a good as it gets for my wallet... so I guess I'm set! :tongue:

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