Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Sep 3, 2013 at 6:37 PM Post #16,396 of 48,561
Hello! I am seeking a headphone to compliment both my music and gaming, and after a few suggestions in my thread at Introductions I was directed here. Both gaming and musical experience are equally important to me. I feel like I might have to compromise the quality of one for the other... hopefully this is not the case!
 
In terms of gaming, I am looking for an immersive environmental experience. With that in mind, I was leaning towards open cans. I am not a competitive gamer, but I enjoy being able to place what's going on around me and being able to sink into environmental ambience. Natural white noise like urban backgrounds, weather, water, footfall, etc, are important to me. For any of you familiar with Myst: Revelation... I literally spent hours tapping on every object (uniquely coded with it's own sound). I also love dialogue in games, and so I need headphones that treat both male and female vocals well.
Overall, I am hoping for a fairly accurate, immersive, “surround sound” experience. To this end, it was suggested I possibly pair my eventual headphones with a Sound Blaster Z. I would be interested to hear if any of you have experience with that particular sound card.
I also need something comfortable and light for long gaming sessions.
 
Music is a little more complicated. The tracks I want to sound best are often a mix of airy or smooth vocals, heavily laced with electronic sound; sometimes more or less purely electronic. Female vocals feature prominently, though I love male vocals as well. Violin and cello are my favourite traditional instruments, so I'd like something that captures resonance instead of muddying it.
I also listen to some very complicated, almost cluttered tracks (extreme example)... I miss being able to pick out the individual signature of each instrument, and I especially miss being able to distinguish between the layers in each track. (I used to own an amazing noise-cancelling Sennheiser.). Some of my favourite tracks are immersive, complicated and dark. Inversely, many are bubbly or full of bright energy. Most (not all) have electronic and instrumental elements.
 
All that being said, I listen to a huge variety of music and play a large variety of games, and so something balanced (that doesn't overfavour one element only to ruin another) would probably be best. So: immersive environmental experience, quality vocals for both males and females, clarity and accuracy that allows for immersion, and definitely NOT something that muddies the layers in a track...
 
I was suggested the Audio Technica ATH-AD900X initially, but I've been reading up on it / listening to reviews, and it was described that “layers bleed into each other” which would be pretty awful for me, even though it sounded pretty good otherwise. The Sennheiser HD598 was also suggested to me for it's good imaging quality for gaming.
 
I was looking at a budget of approximately 300 for the phones. Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 7:02 PM Post #16,397 of 48,561
I would totally recommend the K702 Anniversary if you can find it for cheap. Quite a few have sold for $320-$325 in the classifieds. I sold mine for a little less but it was to a local artist and he was a friend.
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 7:34 PM Post #16,398 of 48,561
I would totally recommend the K702 Anniversary if you can find it for cheap. Quite a few have sold for $320-$325 in the classifieds. I sold mine for a little less but it was to a local artist and he was a friend.

Second that recommendation for Aurora-Storm
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 8:39 PM Post #16,399 of 48,561
If i can get q701s for 280 aud
Fidelio x1s for 340 aud
Or the hd 600s for 310

Which is best overall in terms of gaming and music
I like hip hop music and dance
And an immersive gaming experience
I will be getting the stx either way so I can drive all of them
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 9:45 PM Post #16,400 of 48,561
If i can get q701s for 280 aud
Fidelio x1s for 340 aud
Or the hd 600s for 310

Which is best overall in terms of gaming and music
I like hip hop music and dance
And an immersive gaming experience
I will be getting the stx either way so I can drive all of them

Sounds like you like bass, so X1.
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 10:28 PM Post #16,402 of 48,561
Seems they updated the CAL, known as CAL2, detachable cable is 2.5 to 3.5mm, so other cables like the vmoda boommic might not fit.

 
 
Interesting. 
 
They list the MSRP for the CAL at $79 and the CAL2 for $199
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- I like Head-Fi's new post UI/options.
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Sep 3, 2013 at 10:31 PM Post #16,403 of 48,561
If i can get q701s for 280 aud
Fidelio x1s for 340 aud
Or the hd 600s for 310

Which is best overall in terms of gaming and music
I like hip hop music and dance
And an immersive gaming experience
I will be getting the stx either way so I can drive all of them

 
The Q701 and HD600 might be too neutral for hip-hop and dance.  X1 is better suited for those genres and is more immersive.
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 10:42 PM Post #16,404 of 48,561
  So I got the K-702 Annies. THEY ARE AMAZING.... They blow away my ****ty dr dre beat Mixrs. I have only worn them for an hour, but you barely feel like they are on. Which is especially good since I wear glasses.
 
The only purchase I am not sure of so far is the KEF M200 Hi-Fi Earphones
 
http://www.razordogaudio.com/collections/aiaiai/products/kef-m200-hi-fi-earphones
 
Has anyone used these? I am can't tell  the difference between this and the Iphone 5. These are harder to wear and keep on coming out of my ear. Should I push it into my canal deeply? Or am I just using them wrong? I connected them to my phone and kindle and they feel slightly under-powered. 
 
Was hoping these would be better for gym, walking the city, etc

how did you wear the Mixr with glasses? that clamp is crazy.
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 11:01 PM Post #16,405 of 48,561
   
 
Interesting.
 
They list the MSRP for the CAL at $79 and the CAL2 for $199
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Seems they made it more consumer friendly and raised the price...
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 11:06 PM Post #16,406 of 48,561
Just got the X1 for 296 usd in HK and sold my Hifiman.
Oh the comfort and light weight compared to HE400...
However, The bassqty now is a bit too much and not enough treble. I'm using the standard cable and Fiio E17. Will the bass and treble improve when I'm using after market cable?
Got a DIY monster 100 standard cable for 10 bux, 1 meter. Is it good?
 
Sep 4, 2013 at 12:41 AM Post #16,407 of 48,561
Just got the X1 for 296 usd in HK and sold my Hifiman.
Oh the comfort and light weight compared to HE400...
However, The bassqty now is a bit too much and not enough treble. I'm using the standard cable and Fiio E17. Will the bass and treble improve when I'm using after market cable?
Got a DIY monster 100 standard cable for 10 bux, 1 meter. Is it good?

A lower impedance cable will provide less bass, tighter bass, and more treble.
 
Sep 4, 2013 at 12:44 AM Post #16,408 of 48,561
double post
 
Sep 4, 2013 at 12:45 AM Post #16,409 of 48,561
The difference in cables is extremely subtle IMO. 
 
If there's too much bass and not enough treble, I'm skeptical that changing cables will fix anything. 
 

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