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I'm getting the X1 + Astro MixAmp for gaming, would throwing an amplifier like the E12 between them make noticeable difference ? would the overall experience get boosted by 15%-25% ? more or less ?

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Can't speak fro the MixAmp, but the DSS sounds better with an amp.  You wouldn't need the power of the e12 - could get an e11 at half the price, or the e17 and have a DAC plus treble / bass control.

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What would you guys suggest for closed bass head headphones? (for a fan of the K702 Annie and X1's)

 

Any closed headphones that still do pretty well for games (positional cues, etc)? I know they wouldn't be as good as open headphones for that purpose, but any that still do it pretty well?

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Originally Posted by pervysage View Post

What would you guys suggest for closed bass head headphones? (for a fan of the K702 Annie and X1's)

 

Any closed headphones that still do pretty well for games (positional cues, etc)? I know they wouldn't be as good as open headphones for that purpose, but any that still do it pretty well?

 

The Mad Dogs are a great but I wouldn't consider them bass heavy. I say its bass is somewhere between the Annie and X1, and it plays very well with bass boost switches from my E12 or iCAN.

 

Another closed headphone I may recommend would be the SoundMAGIC HP100. Great bassy can without hampering other frequencies, with a real nice soundstage for a closed headphone... larger than the MDs. The MDs are superior, technically, though. Similar to how the Annies are superior to the X1 in technicality. The HP100 is very efficient, too, so they may pair better with your X1 to avoid changing gains and volume adjusting when switching back and forth between the two.

 

Edit: Or you can give the HP-800 that MLE just reviewed a try... though I have not heard them. Sounds like MLE was very impressed by the bass on those cans. Also, Evs may can give you some impressions on the M100 he just got recently.


Edited by Change is Good - 8/17/13 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by pervysage View Post

What would you guys suggest for closed bass head headphones? (for a fan of the K702 Annie and X1's)

Any closed headphones that still do pretty well for games (positional cues, etc)? I know they wouldn't be as good as open headphones for that purpose, but any that still do it pretty well?

@Ero-Sennin wink.gif

Not to be the guy but the M-100's are pretty much it in the portable realm with out spending a lot on the edition 8's. Fun sounding but still very accurate. Soundstage is massive! Highs and mids are super smooth and you can use them straight out if a player and get great sound. Amp them and they scale up quite well. Very impressive all around. They took over my MMX-300's as my gaming pair so that was a huge surprise.

Thanks,

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Sorry not just for portable but for the money they are a steal. For under a grand closed bass heavy but perfect cans I would say TH600's Hands down. Only flaw is isolation isn't great but everything else is dang near flawless
Edited by DemonFox - 8/17/13 at 6:49pm
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Just a note guys: Group buys and group-buy sites, including discussion of them is not permitted on Head-Fi. There have been major problems in the past with group buys in the past, hence the rule. 

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I thought I had escaped the Head-Fi/eBay trap at long last.

 

Well, now I'm $405 deeper in the hole, but given that it's something that usually goes for $500+, I figured that I had to try and take a shot at it.

 

If this works out...this could lead to a future MLE review, if he can cover the shipping costs that come with this sort of thing. You'll all know once it arrives...

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Interested in finding out what it is...

I assume it's the HE-500. Unless it's another 'stat. eek.gif

I just sold my TV, so I'm not gonna be as in the red as before. I might return the E12 though, as I'm sort of happy with the X1 just off the E17. Not sure on what I'm gonna do with the MA-900 has I have yet to hear it for gaming. That too sounds swell off the E17 as well, but it's a situational headphone. I would prefer the HD650/Annie as my alternatives to the X1... though I wouldn't buy them again. I'd have to get another full sized amp again...

So i fixed a few errors on my CAL/HP800/E12 reviews on the front page.

If you guys haven't noticed, the CAL review is COMPLETELY new, despite having a CAL review up for ages.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/17/13 at 11:32pm
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Interested in finding out what it is...

I assume it's the HE-500. biggrin.gif

 

Sorry, not the HE-500 (as if I could get one of those at near-HE-400 prices)...or any headphone in this case, though it will come with a headphone. Maybe two. That depends on how this next potential deal goes.

 

Regardless, the headphones would be as good as useless to you without it, especially since your Marantz SR5002's failure just eliminated the cheaper alternative. That should tell you what I'm talking about right there.

 

And speaking of TVs...after a decade of service, the living room Hitachi 43FWX20B is totally crapping out convergence-wise. I have a very good idea as to why...but fixing it is going to entail replacing a couple of ICs (soldering necessary) and making sure they don't overheat and cook themselves.

 

Too bad, since my family isn't in an overall position to buy a new living room HDTV, especially not in the 42-50" range. (And especially not with my demand for the lowest input lag and highest image quality possible.)


Edited by NamelessPFG - 8/17/13 at 11:35pm
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Thread Starter 
Ooooh, nice. Can't wait to see.
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Everyone's coming up with all these surprises, I see. I might just have to come up with one, myself... ph34r.gif

 

Edit: Who am I kidding... too broke right now... frown.gif


Edited by Change is Good - 8/18/13 at 12:09am
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Thread Starter 
I'm half tempted to get the Pro 900 again, and running it off the E17 with a massive treble reduction.
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I've got something up my sleeve that not many people know about. I just have to find it from somewhere for a more  reasonable price because all I'm finding atm is higher than retail.

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Originally Posted by pyed View Post

I'm getting the X1 + Astro MixAmp for gaming, would throwing an amplifier like the E12 between them make noticeable difference ? would the overall experience get boosted by 15%-25% ? more or less ?

 

I've been happy with the X1 and Astro Mixamp 2011. I do not have to crank up the volume to hear an excellent soundstage in Halo 4.
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What I said on the X1 review. Again, people don't seem to ever look at the guide itself. frown.gif
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The X1 is quite sensitive, and I feel that for console gaming, the Mixamp alone is enough.

And boosting SQ percentages is impossible. No amp is going to magically boost SQ by a dramatic amount. It's more about providing clean, efficient power, for when going off weak sources is detrimental to sound quality. It's not about boosting anything. Don't believe that sort of hype. The only time that is true is when a headphone is very hard to drive. The X1 is very efficient. You can believe the hyperbole, but it simply is not a hard headphone to drive.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/18/13 at 1:42am
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