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Mad Lust, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REVIEWS! They led me to buy the DT 990 Pro 250's and I'm loving them.  I have a couple of questions for you:

 

I run these out of my Behringer UB802 mixer, which reports has the following headphone output:

 

Max. output level

+19 dBu / 150 Ω (+25 dBm)

 

I was wondering if this is adequate amplification and how it compared to say a Fiio portable or desktop amp.

 

Also, I was wondering if you had any idea how the new Denon D600's compare to the D7000's you own.  Any chance of a review on these? 

 

And finally, do you have any sense of how the Sony MRD-XB1000's might compare to the Ultrasone Pro 900's?  Again, any chance of a review on these someday?

 

Thanks again!

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Hmmmm....is $237 a good price for the X1? 

 

They are $250 but they had a coupon code that brings it down to $237

 

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_70121_Philips-Fidelio-X1-X1-28-Premium-Open-Back-Hi-Fi-Over-Ear-Headphones.html

 

They are back ordered but I called them up and they said they should have their next shipment on Monday  or Tuesday so the wait would not be long. 

 

That's a pretty good deal for the X1. I am very tempted to get them for that price...

 

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Honestly though, if you can spring for the Fidelio X1, I completely recommend going for that instead. It's like a better behaved 990, with strong bass and really good mid to treble linearity. Gaming performance is on par as well. Best thing, they need very little power, so the Mixamp alone is fine. I know my review isn't up, but it's worth it.

 

When's the review coming bro?

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Im on vacation the whole week with zero X1 headtime. Gonna take some time.
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I just tested out the DSS with the 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable in Pro Logic II and Dolby Bypass. It gives me a really weird sound in Pro Logic II, and didn't notice any changes in Dolby Bypass. So what light should be turned on on the DSS for true Dolby Headphone surround sound?

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I just tested out the DSS with the 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable in Pro Logic II and Dolby Bypass. It gives me a really weird sound in Pro Logic II, and didn't notice any changes in Dolby Bypass. So what light should be turned on on the DSS for true Dolby Headphone surround sound?

It should be the third light from the bottom, the one that says DD next to it.  If it is not coming on during gaming, your output may not support Dolby Digital Live.  What sound card / motherboard audio are you using?

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Thread Starter 
Well, he's currently using the 3.5mm cable, which will never have that signal.
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Lol didn't catch that...dakanao, you'll have to use an optical cable to test it out.

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Well, he's currently using the 3.5mm cable, which will never have that signal.

 

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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

Lol didn't catch that...dakanao, you'll have to use an optical cable to test it out.

What about the first light? Should that one turn blue aswell?

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Yes

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Yes

Well I just connected the optical cable to my TV and to the DSS, and while the last ''digital in'' light is on, the first ''DD'' light doesn't turn on. Does this mean I'm getting surround sound, or do both the first and last lights need to be turned on for surround sound? Also, when I connect the DSS, it formats my USB storage device. how can I prevent this from happening in the future?


Edited by dakanao - 7/15/13 at 9:07am
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Nameless was good enough to give me some info regarding game surround sound processing for headphones. I have used Dolby Headphone but was also told about CMSS-3D as an alternative that uses binaural rather than virtual.

 

As I need a soundcard I expect one of these standards or something similar would be useful. I've been given a link to this to hopefully gain better clarification on the differences and hence which soundcard may be better.

 

Is CMSS-3D the most comprehensive / most up to date method?

What about SBX Pro Studio Surround in the recent Sound Blaster Z Series?

Is THX TruStudio Pro a good option?

And how do these compare to Dolby Headphone?

 

As for different methods of headphone surround, aren't all games essentially generating real time discrete 6 or 8 channel audio? If all in-game audio have either native 5.1/7.1 positional sound which are then made into virtual 5.1/7.1 surround over 2 speakers for headphones, how then do the various headphone methods above differ in simulating the native 5.1/7.1 game audio for headphones?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Islam


Edited by lemm - 7/15/13 at 9:06am
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I'm playing through Skyrim on the PC now with the tropical mod, and it feels like an entirely new game. I especially love the ambient sound it adds, I just wish I had a surround sound setup for it.

 

Also, this is probably the best graphics I've ever seen in a game. The mod gives it a more ENB like lighting.

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Originally Posted by lemm View Post

Nameless was good enough to give me some info regarding game surround sound processing for headphones. I have used Dolby Headphone but was also told about CMSS-3D as an alternative that uses binaural rather than virtual.

 

As I need a soundcard I expect one of these standards or something similar would be useful. I've been given a link to this to hopefully gain better clarification on the differences and hence which soundcard may be better.

 

Is CMSS-3D the most comprehensive / most up to date method?

What about SBX Pro Studio Surround in the recent Sound Blaster Z Series?

Is THX TruStudio Pro a good option?

And how do these compare to Dolby Headphone?

 

As for different methods of headphone surround, aren't all games essentially generating real time discrete 6 or 8 channel audio? If all in-game audio have either native 5.1/7.1 positional sound which are then made into virtual 5.1/7.1 surround over 2 speakers for headphones, how then do the various headphone methods above differ in simulating the native 5.1/7.1 game audio for headphones?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Islam

I'd suggest go hear for yourself if you can find any youtube videos with dolby, cmss-3d and the like applied. Look in the OP, I think he provides a link to some russian site with different videos with virtual surround applied.

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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post

Well I just connected the optical cable to my TV and to the DSS, and while the last ''digital in'' light is on, the first ''DD'' light doesn't turn on. Does this mean I'm getting surround sound, or do both the first and last lights need to be turned on for surround sound? Also, when I connect the DSS, it formats my USB storage device. how can I prevent this from happening in the future?

Hmmm, it sounds like you're trying to listen to output from your TV rather than from a game console, PC, cable box etc.  In that case, are you trying to listen to 5.1 surround from a TV program from over the air?  You're not getting surround unless the DD light is on.  Only some over-air programs will transmit in 5.1, like a prime time show broadcast in HD.  It often says it in the beginning of the show (broadcast in 5.1 surround etc.).

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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

Hmmm, it sounds like you're trying to listen to output from your TV rather than from a game console, PC, cable box etc.  In that case, are you trying to listen to 5.1 surround from a TV program from over the air?  You're not getting surround unless the DD light is on.  Only some over-air programs will transmit in 5.1, like a prime time show broadcast in HD.  It often says it in the beginning of the show (broadcast in 5.1 surround etc.).

No I want to use it for my xbox 360, but I'm getting sound from my headphones though, it's just not surround sound. It goes like this: The DSS is connected to the xbox 360 through usb, my headphone is plugged in the DSS, and the DSS optical out is plugged in the TV. How can I get the DD light back on?

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