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Just one question before I pull the trigger on a FiiO E09k.

 

Currently on a HD558, connected to the PS3 through a TB DSS (the original with DH). Will the E09k be a good choice in complimenting my setup?

 

I do not have the luxury of gettting a Schiit Magni or an O2 though due to where I live (Malaysia, postage fees + tax will cost a bomb), so yeah both of them are out of the questioni. The E09k is the next best thing I have here without burning a hole in my pocket.

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If you're using the amp with the DSS the improvement will be very minute.
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Thread Starter 
Th 558 is fairly efficient with the exception of having impedance spikes that raise the impedance by a large amount. The E9K will help with that.
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Originally Posted by HiFiGamer1995 View Post

The Samson SR850 and CAL are the best choices in that price range, they are both well built for the price. You might not want the Samson if isolation/leakage is a concern.
Okay. Between the two, which is better for immersion? I presume it's the Samson. And is there anyone here who has also used the SLYR? Taking the guide into account, it seems to be quite exemplary, but I don't know.
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Sorry about the copy post. My phone hates me.
Edited by Zaruk - 5/17/13 at 5:10am
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I might borrow a pair of DT 880s in the coming weeks and compare them with the other mid-fi headphones. So far, my personal ranking for gaming performance in the mid-fi arena is:

 

W1000X > Q701 > DT 770 LE > A900X > HD 650 > HF-2

 

That's only for imaging and competitive advantage with DH, though. For music listening it's more like W1000X > HF-2/HD 650 > Q701 > A900X > DT 770 LE

 

I'm curious to see where the DT 880 will fit in, since MLE's mention of the rear imaging deficiency concerns me.

Update: I think the DT 880 Premium/250 is the equal of the W1000X in music and gaming, just with wildly different presentations.

 

I once read the complaint of a gentleman who said the AKG 70X series had a "pinched-out" soundstage: as if you took the left and right ends of the sound field, pinched them and stretched them out (like an obnoxiously affectionate older relative might do with your cheeks). At the time, I didn't understand what this meant. Listening to the DT 880 makes this rather obvious. The imaging of the 70X series, IMHO, is too biased towards the left and right extremities. The DT 880 offers a slightly less wide image that appears to have superior specificity as well. I've had no cases of misdirection with the 880's that I had when I use the Q701s.

 

The sound signature of the DT 880 is remarkably similar to that of the JH13s. Balanced, balanced, balanced. In my opinion, the 880's bass is the best out of the 650/701/880 trio in both quantity and quality, and they are the best of the three when it comes to gaming and all-rounded usage. If the 880 Pro offers the same sound for the ~$200, they are also the best buy of the three IMHO.

 

I wasn't expected this from Beyer after being overwhelmingly disappointed with the DT 770 Pro/32.

 

MLE, I'm stunned you preferred the DT 990. I couldn't tolerated that headphone's sucked-out midrange, and I don't hear the deficiency in depth and rear imaging with Dolby Headphone that you speak of for the 880s.


Edited by 3X0 - 5/17/13 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by Zaruk View Post

Okay. Between the two, which is better for immersion? I presume it's the Samson. And is there anyone here who has also used the SLYR? Taking the guide into account, it seems to be quite exemplary, but I don't know.

The Samson would be better for immersion because of bigger soundstage and better imaging. It would also be better with competitive because it has better SQ overall with neutral instead of the slightly accentuated bass of the CAL.

The SLYR has a small soundstage so you're better off with the Samson or CAL.
Edited by HiFiGamer1995 - 5/17/13 at 5:53am
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If you're using the amp with the DSS the improvement will be very minute.

 

Except the HD558's impedence fluctuates quite commonly in too many situations... the DSS alone felt a little dull with it.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Th 558 is fairly efficient with the exception of having impedance spikes that raise the impedance by a large amount. The E9K will help with that.

 

Alright, thank you! :)

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Thread Starter 
Sweet, SC is letting me keep the PLYR 1, and I intend to keep them. I like them a helluva lot for music, it's wireless capabilities and longer than wide cup shape which makes them so much easier to lay down with.

This will probably be my main anime and relaxing headphone. smily_headphones1.gif

They're also the only headset I have, so no more dealing with external mics.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Sweet, SC is letting me keep the PLYR 1, and I intend to keep them. I like them a helluva lot for music, it's wireless capabilities and longer than wide cup shape which makes them so much easier to lay down with.

This will probably be my main anime and relaxing headphone. smily_headphones1.gif

They're also the only headset I have, so no more dealing with external mics.

I use my PLYRs for watching movies while the wife is sleeping. IMO, they are perfect for that.

-Erik
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Unless anyone can object to my decision with a superior alternative, it is decided: I shall buy the Samson SR850- Oh, what is this?

Ummm.... How does the Superlux 668b compare?

EDIT: It might seem like I'm beating a dead horse here, but how many of you have used both the above cans, in addition to the SLYR? Consider the horse beaten.


Edited by Zaruk - 5/17/13 at 11:40am
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The 668b is the same headphone, just with an Audio Technica wing headband design.
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Hmmm... Which would you say is more comfortable?
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Im planning to hook up my hd 598s or gr07 mk2s with my ps3.  I dont need a mic so im guessing the dss2 is better than the mixamp but what about audio quality?  Really worth the dolby processing and whatever the dss2 uses or should i just get something like an e17 or e9?


Edited by ztreb185 - 5/17/13 at 2:13pm
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Im planning to hook up my hd 598s or gr07 mk2s with my ps3.  I dont need a mic so im guessing the dss2 is better than the mixamp but what about audio quality?  Really worth the dolby processing and whatever the dss2 uses or should i just get something like an e17 or e9?

You're better off getting the original DSS because it has 7.1 surround sound. They changed the DSS2 to virtual surround.

 

Yes, the dolby processing is critical for surround sound gaming. I tried some stereo gaming the other day and I can now say that I have been spoiled by the Dolby Headphone feature on my mixamp.

 

Edit: If you search through this thread... this has been mentioned numerous times by MLE.


Edited by Change is Good - 5/17/13 at 2:46pm
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