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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

To clarify, it's W3000ANV > W1000X > Q701 for gaming. The W1000X with J$ Beyerdynamic pads gets surprisingly close to the Q701's width and depth, while having better imaging. Haven't tried the W3000ANV with the Beyer pads yet.

 

That said, the Q701 is a must-buy at the sub-$200 used price point.

 

 

Hopefully we see you with the Fidelio X1 somewhere within those two weeks. tongue_smile.gif

 

Sorry man, I really want to see you with the X1, and if that means the KS ESP sucks, well...

I agree. My Q701 are my favorite headphones as of yet. I've had a few others and yet I ALWAYS wear my Q701 for no matter what I do. Console gaming, PC gaming, music, watching movies, youtube. They are just DAMN nice headphones and unbelievably comfortable. If there is a way to make them more comfortable I must know it!! L3000.gif

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I might borrow a pair of DT 880s in the coming weeks and compare them with the other mid-fi headphones. So far, my personal ranking for gaming performance in the mid-fi arena is:

 

W1000X > Q701 > DT 770 LE > A900X > HD 650 > HF-2

 

That's only for imaging and competitive advantage with DH, though. For music listening it's more like W1000X > HF-2/HD 650 > Q701 > A900X > DT 770 LE

 

I'm curious to see where the DT 880 will fit in, since MLE's mention of the rear imaging deficiency concerns me.

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Ah that makes sense the hdmi is pretty rare on laptops. Never really looked for that feature so can't recommend any other brands. But hope things work out with it and it needs your needs otherwise. Hopefully the black screen issue can be fixed eventually.
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Non the less, sadly my xb 700s are doing pretty well on the Ebay. I'm pretty confident they'll sell for what I wanted... it's a shame I couldn't get them to sell here <.< non the less I should b back into purchasing cans soon! Hoping to start doing some reviews for companies to! biggrin.gif would be a neat way to exapand mah knowledge! 
No offense Mshenay, I love ya but if you want companies to pay you for reviews, your writing will have to change from 4chan to professional and become more clear and correct in grammar and spelling.


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Originally Posted by adrelion View Post

@evshrug thank you for the info. I'll probably check out the iems you spoke of as well. I mean I don't really mind the idea of open just was wondering how much noise really leaks out or in in comparison.

Any recommendations for sound cards though to pair with one of these headphones? Would the Asus Xonar STX be fine?
The Q701, to the bystander, sounds like a small speaker at low volume. Little bit louder than a whisper, at what I consider normal listening volume. The person wearing the Q701 will have about as much noise muffled as pulling an autumn-time shirt over your head, like cornholio.

The Etymotic canalphones I mentioned were the first HiFi headphones I personally owned, they don't make my particular model anymore but Etymotic is a great brand, the first to make IEMs as an extension from hearing aids to become monitors for musicians, and then sold for public consumption. They really do go in your ears like earplugs, which can take some getting used to, but they are detail monsters and can have VERY flat & neutral frequency response since it doesn't interact with your outer ear, but the highest treble tends to roll off sharply, at least my (older) model. Soundstage, as can be expected, is very small and "inside your head," but the imaging – the sense of a sound coming from right here in relation to you – is very good because they are so detailed and balanced, so they still work well with surround, binaural, and holographic recordings. Canalphones aren't very casual headphones like earbuds are (but earbuds hurt my ears), canalbuds are kind of like hybrids that insert a little bit and make a compromise — comfort is VERY subjective among these three types of headphone. Head-Fi member ClieOS has a review round-up of a TON of IEMs if you want more info and choices, but personally I compared price equivalent models from Shure and Etymotic side-by-side, and the SQ and isolation (and comfort, the Shure's olive eartips never worked well or stayed in for me) had a clear winner: the ER•6i for me, and I recommend whatever is their ~$100 descendant.

The Asus ST or STX model indeed ought to be fine, the best choice for a soundcard with Dolby Headphone, though I heard drivers and support can be a pain in the rear. Another option growing in popularity is Creative's Z-series gaming cards, instead of DH they use their own new version of surround processing called SBX, and from the reviews it seems like people are happier about the drivers and game support. Whether DH or SBX or another surround DSP sounds better is up to your ears and tastes.


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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Bah, you guys have weak skulls, i cant even feel it :P

There is a word from the 90's, I think it is an applicable retort here: you numbskull :P
Edited by Evshrug - 5/14/13 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post
There is a word from the 90's, I think it is an applicable retort here: you numbskull :P

Meh, my skull is about twice as thick as the average skull, anyways. I often have things fall on the top of my head and don't notice until I see it. I like one of the explanations given by a user on this website: the less vitamin D you have, the more sensitive your Parietal bone (part of the skull) is.

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Been away for a while; Steam (and windows troubleshooting) have kept me busy.
Shankdude,
I don't know if you'll read this, but I would advise NOT to buy the HD201. I gifted a pair to my mom, but they were not comfortable for both of us, and the sound wasn't very special. They are available for like $15 in the USA... if that's your budget, you really have few options. The HD202 is worth the extra money, based on comfort alone. It was actually a fun headphone to listen to — though treble suffered from some distortion (and sound is overall not very refined), this is actually a very good sounding headphone among low-price options. I personally used a Sennheiser PX100 for about 6 years, and I was pretty happy with those. I still have them and they work well, but I need to replace the foam ear cushions, they have basically worn through.

Koss is another brand besides Sennheiser you should look into. Even their cheap earclip (Koss KSC75) and sporta-pro or porta-pro models sound good for the price, though the porta-pro may be out of your budget ($45 in the USA: http://www.amazon.com/Koss-PortaPro-Headphones-with-Case/dp/B00001P4ZH).

JVC is worth researching too. I liked the HA-RX900 (modded with a little pinch of cotton in the earcup to smooth the treble, and the earcup surface dampened with Dynamat to reduce resonance and make the bass more clean), which may also be out of your budget, but I've read good reviews about their on-ear portable headphones and their JVC Marshmallow in-ear buds.


Hey thanks for the reply :)
even though i was expecting more no of replies but it seems that only you replied :(

I can get HD 202 too but do they provide same surround and do good job at competitive gameplay like HD 201's? 
because i didnt hear much of then in gaming forums ,all i heard about were 201's

and BTW thanks for suggestions 
but koss , jvc etc have warranty issues in my country as they are generally imported from USA
so can u please suggest me headphones from brands like Sennheiser, Sony, Creative, Phillips, Panasonic 
in the range of about 50 $
also i will be getting Xonar U3 usb sound card for gaming on my lappy 
willl that do the job ?

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Originally Posted by adrelion View Post

Ah that makes sense the hdmi is pretty rare on laptops. Never really looked for that feature so can't recommend any other brands. But hope things work out with it and it needs your needs otherwise. Hopefully the black screen issue can be fixed eventually.

I'd suggest Acer, they are easily my favorite laptop company, and mine does have an HDMI port.


Edited by daleb - 5/14/13 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

It has an HDMI input, which is the only reason I bought it over other laptops. You can't find laptops with HDMI inputs.

Anyone using the Recond 3D... how the hell do I set up the virtual surround for pc use? Sigh, this is one good reason why I don't bother with PC gaming.

 

I followed Evshrug's information to configure my Recon3D, I like the way it sounds after following his suggestions from this thread. I primarily run mine on OS X, but the system software is the same when I boot into windows.

 

The rest lies in the in-game audio settings.

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Originally Posted by shankdude View Post

Hey thanks for the reply smily_headphones1.gif
even though i was expecting more no of replies but it seems that only you replied frown.gif
We get a LOT of info requests in this thread, however the point of post #1 was to be a review guide of suggested headphones for gaming, so generally the way the thread regulars think is "read the first post, that's what we would recommend anyway." It's not like we're paid to help strangers, but sometimes we like to do it anyway. I don't mind giving you a few suggestions, particularly because you appreciate them. I hope they help, but are you familiar with the saying "scraping at the bottom of the barrel?" There are VERY few suggestions among headphones at the HD201's pricepoint, and that's why some of my suggestions may be stretching your budget. Sorry about your wallet frown.gif

I can get HD 202 too but do they provide same surround and do good job at competitive gameplay like HD 201's?
because i didnt hear much of then in gaming forums, all i heard about were 201's
The Sennheiser HD201's are cheaper, that's why they're recommended among the cheapest gaming options. IMO the Sennheiser HD 202's don't lose anything to the HD201, just gain a little comfort and SQ. Surround will be about the same with either headphone.

and BTW thanks for suggestions 
but koss, jvc etc have warranty issues in my country as they are generally imported from USA
so can u please suggest me headphones from brands like Sennheiser, Sony, Creative, Phillips, Panasonic in the range of about 50 $
Uh, didn't I just recommend a Sennheiser headphone first? Apart from what I already said, in those brands I can only recommend "any headphone from Sony, Creative, Phillips, or Panasonic that costs less than 50 in Brazilian currency." Generally, I DON'T recommend those other brands besides Sennheiser for gaming – the only Creative headphone I KNOW is good is the Creative Aurvana Live! (CAL!, reviewed in the first post), which is a rebranded Denon headphone that was well-regarded but retired.

Generally, all your electronics stuff will be imported from somewhere, is there something particularly bad about importing from the USA? When I think "cheap but good gaming and music headphone," I think Koss KSC75 Clip-ons (recently rebranded as the Koss "Pulse" KSC75 headphones). I just bought a Koss clip-on two days ago on Amazon, for myself. It was only $10 USD.


also i will be getting Xonar U3 usb sound card for gaming on my lappy 
will that do the job ?
The Xonar U3 USB soundcard ought to do the job fine, it is an appropriate choice for the headphones you're looking at.

Overall, I hope I helped, and that you are happy with what you can get smily_headphones1.gif



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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

I followed Evshrug's information to configure my Recon3D, I like the way it sounds after following his suggestions from this thread. I primarily run mine on OS X, but the system software is the same when I boot into windows.

The rest lies in the in-game audio settings.

Thanks for reading my suggestions! Do you think I should revive my suggestions and discussion thread? I actually posted most of the settings in this thread here, and linked to that from my thread, LOL! I liked the way the Recon3D USB sounded too... I honestly miss the thing: If I install an internal soundcard, dual booting between Win & Mac will be a... pain.

And yes, the in-game settings are also significant. In Starcraft II for example, be sure to pick the Recon3D from the devices list, set audio to "Surround," quality to "High," and slide up the number of channels/simultaneous sounds that can play. In every game I imagine you have to point the sound towards the Recon3D and set your surround settings.

I think it's ironic that, right now, Mad has a Recon3D device, and I have a Dolby Headphone device.
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

Currently revisiting the AKG K240. 

I'll have some impressions up in a bit....

Also, I went to another Head-Fi meet over the weekend and will post some impressions on the HD650, Stax SR-303, Denon D2000/5000, HE300, and a couple others...

Sounds like you didn't break them in enough on your fist evaluation, looking forward to the results.
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


No offense Mshenay, I love ya but if you want companies to pay you for reviews, your writing will have to change from 4chan to professional and become more clear and correct in grammar and spelling.

YUP. I have a nice big BS button I can hit when I need to. But yea... my spelling and grammar are terrible... something I need to work on as I'm about to start working as a Pc Tech... or I can do video reviews since I'm 10x better at public speaking than I am at writing down words... 

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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

I'd suggest Acer, they are easily my favorite laptop company, and mine does have an HDMI port.

HDMI OUTPUT, NOT INPUT

I dunno how people still don't get that.
post #13558 of 24498
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


HDMI OUTPUT, NOT INPUT

I dunno how people still don't get that.


Whats that even mean? I haven't read this conversation, I jumped in just with that post :P

 

edit: Wait, a laptop screen can even do that?! Since when did this evolution occur in laptops?

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Mad, I want to send you these 840s once I burn them in real decent. I swear they remind me a lot of the M50 but I would like your take on this. I know you are pretty much in the higher tier, nowadays, so I would like to contribute a borderline tier B to the thread (giving people with lower budgets another option on the list).


Edited by Change is Good - 5/14/13 at 9:36pm
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Thread Starter 
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Whats that even mean? I haven't read this conversation, I jumped in just with that post :P

edit: Wait, a laptop screen can even do that?! Since when did this evolution occur in laptops?

Exactly. A laptop screen that doubles as a monitor for external devices? Yes please. My biggest gripe with the M17x is that the screen isn't as good as my ex's DV8T screen which was amazing, but still, it's decent. That, and the fact the computer has to be on for the HDMI input to work, so even if I don't need the laptop to be on, it has to be on if I wanna play my PS3, etc.
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