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If I had a dollar for every time MLE has said "this will be end-game," I'd own all the flagships by now.  biggrin.gif

True, but I'm actually approaching legit endgame headphones! Whats next after the Omega Stax? Orpheus? Lol, not in my lifetime.
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I won't be able to hear the MK1 until this Christmas at least. The Mk1 I think, is linear neutral; it's actually the mk2/mk2.5 that got a mid bass hump. And the 950 is the basshead Stax can. The koss doesn't extend as deep as the lambda (which also isn't that deep); but it has more bass impact than the Stax equivalent.

According to the friend, the 007 is sort of meh without the KGSS/KGHVSS - like it literally transform once his KGSS was completed. I think now he's commissioning someone to build a KGHVSS for both the 007mk1 and his 009. A KGSS is around 2k - much cheaper than the bhse or ll; I think once you got bit by the 007 - soon you'll find a way to acquire the kgss bigsmile_face.gif
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Myself, I will probably get a 009+bhse; but that must be after I have finished my speaker system. Right now I'm content, the weighty sound of dynamic (he6) and the ethereal sound of stax. As good as Stax is; I think if you got the space, go for speakers instead. Planar and electrostat speaker sound mighty fine too and really cheap to boost. Mini maggies are around 1.5k per pair used I think?

Definitely not speaker worthy... apartments, and loudness restrictions. These walls are paper thin.

Ive read about the 323s and 007s pairings, and people are pleased.

As for the bassy Stax, on Innerfidelity as well as here, its the 007 Mk 1 that is the bassy one... just from what im reading.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/19/13 at 11:41pm
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Much as I like mountains, summit-Fi is overkill for gaming. Honestly, I think we're talking about something else besides headphones for gaming once the headphone alone costs over $350. What is the purpose fulfilled by the headphones and speakers we're talking about now?

Btw, that huge flagship review opined that the Orpheus wasn't as breathtaking as the cheaper, modern successor, right? wink.gif
Edited by Evshrug - 4/19/13 at 11:23pm
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Well, its not just for gaming. I could've ended at the 990s if it was just for gaming. Or better, the Annies.
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Alright man, I'm not saying anything, I'm just sayin'
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I'm still not sure if I'd rather own one flagship pair or a several "mid-fi" pairs, like the Anniversaries/Q701s, X1s, plus something else like MA900 or AD900x or whatever.

 

It would depend on whether one of the flagships did everything better than my AKGs or not.  Based on my last (very brief) listening session, I'm not sure...I would need more critical listening time before I made a decision like that.

 

People say the HD800s need a good source/amp, and I don't really like the idea of having to upgrade my chain in an expensive way in order to take advantage of them.

 

 

Seems like mid-fi is the best value and price/peformace ratio though.  I'm not a fan of diminishing returns.

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That much is true. $250-400 is where it's at. At this point, I'm tossing money for incremental improvements. But upgraditis is a disease.
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Closed due to possibly going to LANs. Sounds like you're saying neither of these two would be good?

 

If so, what should I get? :L


You might want to try the Ultrasone PRO 550, very comfortable closed can with good compatibility to Dolby Headphone for long LAN sessions. I know that from my own experiences. Has all features of the Higher end PRO headphones, like speed switch earpads and a very sturdy case but comes with non metallic drivers.

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You might want to try the Ultrasone PRO 550, very comfortable closed can with good compatibility to Dolby Headphone for long LAN sessions. I know that from my own experiences. Has all features of the Higher end PRO headphones, like speed switch earpads and a very sturdy case but comes with non metallic drivers.

I beg to differ. They ARE very comfortable... but sound wise, the soundstage is terrible. It's only my opinion, though...

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The STX is a powerful soundcard. Whomever said it can't drive those headphones is a liar. It's the equivalent of an E9 in power which is plenty of power.


Oh I see, that was what I originally thought too it just seems that when I was trying to do some Google searches every now and again I would come across a post sort of being negative on only using the soundcard to power any of those headphones because it would not be "recommended" or drive it to its full potential and it sort of scared me off.

In which case I just want to know, is there a better sound card out there than the STX?

 

Based off my mostly gaming needs with some music and movies,what headphones would you pair up with the STX? Just out of interest.

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For the STX? The K702 Anniversary, for sure. Though not sure that's in your budget.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/20/13 at 2:04am
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In which case I just want to know, is there a better sound card out there than the STX?

There absolutely are plenty, but what I think you're asking is: Is there a better sound card out there for headphone gaming?

My opinion is yes and it's the X-Fi Titanium HD. Better support for games and I prefer CMSS-3D over Dolby Headphone as I find it to be more accurate. You will need an out-board amp with them, though.
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There absolutely are plenty, but what I think you're asking is: Is there a better sound card out there for headphone gaming?

My opinion is yes and it's the X-Fi Titanium HD. Better support for games and I prefer CMSS-3D over Dolby Headphone as I find it to be more accurate. You will need an out-board amp with them, though.

 

Hmm yeah for now at least I would just like to get the sound card and be able to use some headphones with it and perhaps get the whole proper setup with an amp later on when I have saved up some money. I can't wait to hear what it sounds like in comparison to what I have now which is a cheap headset with on board sound.

 

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For the STX? The K702 Anniversary, for sure. Though not sure that's in your budget.


You know what I was having major difficulty finding a retailer that sold that in the UK, then I actually managed to find one and looked at the price and thought yeah.... Probably a bit much.

 

I would prefer to keep it in the £150-£300 range if possible, what would you say then? then again I am not sure how the translates to usd.

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So using the Stax 407 for gaming.

Hooked up the Stax amp to my Marantz's headphone out. Very clean sound, and the 407 works very well with DH. Safe to say, 7.5 fun / 8.5 competitive (preliminary scoring). God tier clarity, nicely balanced sound with good energy for fun, and great positioning. Not the best for hardcore gaming, but great.

Safe to say, based on sound alone, the 407 is a winner as an all-purpose can.
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Looks like somebody's got a case of the Stax honeymoon period. Short of the 009 (haven't heard it), it wears off.
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I'm still not sure if I'd rather own one flagship pair or a several "mid-fi" pairs, like the Anniversaries/Q701s, X1s, plus something else like MA900 or AD900x or whatever.

It would depend on whether one of the flagships did everything better than my AKGs or not.  Based on my last (very brief) listening session, I'm not sure...I would need more critical listening time before I made a decision like that.

People say the HD800s need a good source/amp, and I don't really like the idea of having to upgrade my chain in an expensive way in order to take advantage of them.


Seems like mid-fi is the best value and price/peformace ratio though.  I'm not a fan of diminishing returns.
One flagship as the be-all-end-all gets boring. I've had the JH13s for 3.5 years and I'm so used to them they don't surprise me anymore unless I use something lesser for considerable periods of time.
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