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Not yet. Dunno what that guy is waiting for.
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Was feeling a little crazy last night so I bought the gel ear pads for my mmx 300's! Will report back with my observations smily_headphones1.gif
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To be outbid? I dunno either. Aaaaah! My ear clogged up! frown.gif
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The linked article suggests that this device is back to using Dolby Headphone, and also allows for speaker angle adjustments. It's possible the article was wrong, but it's more likely they're right.
I'd like to try a Dolby Headphone device someday, but it's too bad that even the Mixamp suffers from some background noise and distortion, something that would be carried through double amping and only dampened by high impedance headphones. If this device manages a better SNR, it may be the better choice over a Mixamp. Overall, it's just good to see new developments in this space.

 

Seems to say Dolby Digital, but never specifically mentions Dolby Headphone.  In fact, the official Turtle Beah website only mentions Dolby Digital.  However, the type of output is probably too technical.

 

Seems unclear, but I see no reason why TB would go back to Dolby Headphone after dumping it from the DSS2.

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Getting in Ultrasone Signature DJ's which are supposed to be in the neighborhood of a significantly beefed up 770pro/80  I am looking forward to testing them with games, <3 closed cans.

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I think they will be the same. Its the KSC75 that people keep getting confused. It only shared the driver with one other headphone, IIRC. Sme behind the neck headphone of theirs. The 35s I've seen having the same drivers as the Sporta and Portapro. Its the rear housing on those that alters the sound.

But soon enough I'll be 100% sure, though I may have to take driver variation into account. Still the 35 has some obvious smoothness next to the 75, which has a metallic twinge in the treble.

I think the KSC75 has the same driver as the KSC50/55 too (50's were the clips and 55 the behind the head variant), though they're discontinued...

They actually looked a lot better IMO and the clip was much more securely attached but still flexible, fit was more hit or miss tho and the conventional grill was probably more expensive to stamp than the 75's.

I think they were pretty short lived, when did they stop making the 35's? I remember seeing the 50/55 quite a bit towards 2000 but by the time I went to get my sister some (maybe around 2005) they were already on the 75's.

I need to clean my KSC50 and replace the pads, they've disintegrated...
Edited by Impulse - 3/19/13 at 12:41pm
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Wii U needs optical out, or I need an HDMI spillter with HD video out and HD sound out on seperate channels so I can amp the sound more. Even with thick cans and a thick tube the Wii U out of my Tvs head phone sounds thin

 

But the new 1080p looks awesome! And the enviorments are a little richer. Still I need an optical In dac or amp, since I wonder if the optical out would just out put pure data...

 

still new cans r awesome and new game is awesome, and new tv LOOKS awesome but sounds bad

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Hi all. Been awhile since I've posted here.
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Does your Creative Recon3D USB allow you to adjust the Xbox chat volume separately from the game volume?

 

 

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Hey ScottishRump (Pip),
Well, if you were looking for K701 and HD650 morsels, there are plenty in this thread! The first post will be most helpful — it's the guide. Each headphone review has a click to expand section for Mad's full review. If you want more, there has been more morsels of discussion on both if you go backwards from now rather than start at the oldest posts (excluding the guide post, which is very frequently updated).

The short version is, if you want an all-a'rounder headphone that is circumaural with great comfort, the AKG 701 65th Anniversary (fondly called the Annies) get a solid recommendation. It is more expensive than the K702 you mentioned, but this limited edition model has a flat headband offering more comfort for some, and a pleasing balanced tone that is a bare nudge warmer than the typical K702 (but not the aggressive "warmth" you experienced as part of the Grado house sound). Personally, I chose an AKG Q701 at half the cost, Chicolom posted a link to his more in-depth comparison one or two pages back, but the short version is the Q701 is closer to the Annies than another headphone brand, and still sounds great enough to have some great toe-curling audio-nirvana moments.

The HD650 also gets good marks, but it just presents things differently, more laid-back and FWIR stands out for "smooth mids." Also costs more. The HD598 and HD558 are cheaper, but the presentation is different... I suggest you read the first-page guide for impressions on those. The Sennheiser PC360 is basically an HD558 with a built-in mic – up to you if the price difference is worth it over buying a $3 clip-on lapel mic (dunno the price in Euro, but should also be cheap), and I haven't read any impressions on Sennheiser's new gaming headphone lineup but the PC360 comparison ought to orient you to the level of quality you can expect. Another "balanced" signature headphone worth looking into is the BeyerDynamic DT880: very even and "transparent" headphone, maybe less soundstage "width" than the AKG flagships but they are remarked for their comfort and near-monitoring accuracy.

The purchase list you laid out is a very good looking one IMO. I haven't read enough about (or auditioned) the Superlux headphones that look like AKG clones to know what they sound like, but for their asking price I expect you'd be giving up some refinement compared to the real AKG flagships... but those ought to still easily please you compared to the Tritton Ax Pros. Honestly, almost any of the headphones in Mad's guide are better than the Tritton's, read Mad's impression in the guide on those AX Pros. The other thing about your list... You can drive the AKGs loud enough from the Mixamp alone, with the chat dial turned all the way to "game." The K702 (or Q701, or Annies) ought to sound pretty nice without an extra amp, HOWEVER (and this happened to me) over time you'll come to feel like something is being held back, and when you add an amp with lots of current supply and low distortion, the headphones will really show their potential by making each note/sound more distinct and adding more "air" and depth to the soundstage.

Personally, I bought Creative's Recon3D USB sound processor instead of the Mixamp, for half the cost, and I like that it works pretty well with both PC and console (Xbox here, but I may soon get a roommate with a PS3), without hearing the Mixamp personally I theorize the Recon3D USB has lower distortion, background noise, but also lower current, but it worked really nice for me once I added a tube hybrid amp made by Head-Fi'er Zigis. The Mixamp uses Dolby Headphone to process virtual surround (so does Tritton's AX 720 and Turtle Beach's DSS), but the Recon3D USB uses THX TruStudio Pro; THX works well for me, but I suspect it affects ears differently, I have more "morsels" talking about this in the thread linked in my signature. Head-Fi'er Nameless is selling his Recon3D USB for $70 USD, if you don't mind arranging shipping with him. I mentioned Turtle Beach's DSS earlier, that's probably the cheapest (2nd hand) recommended surround processing option for consoles, though we have a guy who likes his DSS2 as well. Last thing on surround processing/amping front, sometimes it's more versatile and forward thinking to find a home theater receiver with a headphone surround mode, for example Mad found a used Marantz receiver with Dolby Headphone that has a superior amp to the Mixamp, more processing options, speaker and input options, all in one convenient package (though large physically). Mad probably could've been "done" with just his Annies and the receiver, but he had to buy his Audio-GD Compass2 Amp/DAC and he is compelled to expand his guide every month... he probably wouldn't have tried the Annies and receiver if he wasn't that way to begin with, Love Ya Mad!

Hope you found this post helpful, and don't mind it being a bit longer than your own post (Mine's longer than yours is, Nyah :P ). From personal experience I recommend the AKG flagships and a surround processor, and if you want to spread out your cost you could survive waiting a bit to buy a dedicated amp, but eventually you'll want said amp wink.gif
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Mad scored the AD700s as gaming-godly because they emphasize tactical sound frequencies while having thin bass (Mad likes to say No Bass), so you really just concentrate on the details. Also, they have exceptional sound stage. The DT990 is just as detailed and also has a pretty good soundstage, but Mad thought it was also more fun because the bass was fuller, making the sound more exciting (and thus involving, though Mad's word choice is "fun" and "immersive"). The AD700 is great, and certainly a great value much cheaper than DT990s, but the DT990s are also very accurate at imaging and may just be more to your preference. That said, I have an AD700 myself and I'm not really interested in trying a DT990 (tho I really want to hear the DT880), I'm just saying do some more research before discounting something.

You guys are gonna make me pull my chin whiskers outmad.gif

 

I'll give the DT990s a go then when im able to.

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Head-Fi'er Nameless is selling his Recon3D USB for $70 USD, if you don't mind arranging shipping with him.

 

Not to try and steal any from Nameless, but you can also see it new on Amazon lately for under $70. Right now Nameless has the better price by a good margin, but I got mine new for $65 recently with prime shipping. So as it sits, Nameless has the best price I've seen if you want to jump now. Waiting may have a benefit too.

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Does your Creative Recon3D USB allow you to adjust the Xbox chat volume separately from the game volume?
No, that is it's weakness. Usually games have an options box to allow you to turn down game volume, so you can turn the overall volume up to bring chat volume up, but cut game volume down to set your balance. Halo is the only one that bugs me that way, but even then I usually get by as long as I'm not driving a warthog. On PC, you can easily control chat vs game volume, there is even a switch on the side to change voice input gain, something the Mixamp doesn't do (as well as all the custom EQ and controls). But yeah, short answer, on Xbox, the Recon3D doesn't adjust chat volume separately from game volume.
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Not to try and steal any from Nameless, but you can also see it new on Amazon lately for under $70. Right now Nameless has the better price by a good margin, but I got mine new for $65 recently with prime shipping. So as it sits, Nameless has the best price I've seen if you want to jump now. Waiting may have a benefit too.
Shipped to the UK? Avoiding VAT? Yeah... $5 less is worth waiting for to buy from Amazon US.

Now I want to see on camelcamelcamel.com how long it was selling for $65 and how often it's done that.
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Edited by Evshrug - 3/19/13 at 9:29pm
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Looking to upgrade from my half broken Turtle Beach X11's. I've done some searching and i've come up with a few selections. I'd like to hear some opinions and get some more suggestions before I make a decision. I don't really want to spend more than $65, and I like to listen to music while I game.

My Choices

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Looking to upgrade from my half broken Turtle Beach X11's. I've done some searching and i've come up with a few selections. I'd like to hear some opinions and get some more suggestions before I make a decision. I don't really want to spend more than $65, and I like to listen to music while I game.

My Choices

 

Don't eat lunch for 2 days and get the Skullcandy Slyrs.

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