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Virtual Surround Sound "Guide" - Need Help!

 

Hey, do you really hear through walls with Dolby Headphone? Is it really unrealistic? I'm really hating the distortion/reverb (possibly echo too idk) with Silent Cinema.

 

Here's all I know of as far as other options in virtual surround sound (I did this once before, but I'm doing it again anyway). If anyone knows of any more, please let me know.

 

1. Dolby Headphone

2. Silent Cinema - Quite reverby and distorts the sound a bit much for me

3. Thx TruStudio - Can only use 5.1 DD and others have reported the mixamp being better

4. CMSS-3D - N/A - See 8.

5. Random Company's Surround Sound

6. Sony's Implementation - It's very popular, and if it was the best, everyone would use it.

7. MyEars - N/A - See 8. Plus I've heard it sounds crap.

8. Sound Card - Won't work. It's been tested by BurritoBoy.

9. Smyth Realizer - Just totally unrealistic and too expensive for me.

10. DSS - Mixamp is a better version of this.

11. DSS2 - No clue. It only simulates 4 speakers, and if I wanted chat, I'd have to get a Steelseries audio mixer which would introduce hiss on top of whatever the DSS2 is adding and lower overall SQ a little. I'd say other techs are better, plus, I just don't like TB, too mainstream.

 

Leaving

 

1. Dolby Headphone

2. Random Company's Surround Sound

 

I'd give up my current receiver to get a Harmon Kardon AVR with DH, unless anyone can guide me to some Random Company's Surround Sound that is any good?


Edited by SoAmusing777 - 1/17/13 at 3:27am
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I sure as hell cant discern between 320 and lossless no matter how hard I try. Hell 192+ is fine. Anything less than 192 is when you start to hear sq loss, imho.

For the sake of space and versatility, I use 320kbps. My mp3 player wont support FLAC, and wav sounds off on it.
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I have a hard time seeing diffrences between 128 and lossless in some music generes.

 

thou for rock i do want at least 320 .

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I sure as hell cant discern between 320 and lossless no matter how hard I try. Hell 192+ is fine. Anything less than 192 is when you start to hear sq loss, imho.

For the sake of space and versatility, I use 320kbps. My mp3 player wont support FLAC, and wav sounds off on it.

 

You're up late. Please read above you will you? Need your help. That's exactly what I thought. I remember you telling me about that. Glad to hear this though.

post #10910 of 26354

Alice in Chains - MTV Unplugged - Rooster - FLAC

 

I thought I was happy until I put that song on - wow. Made all the money spent worth it.

 

I used to use my MP3 of that song as my goto standard for listening. The FLAC just ripped me a third ear I'm sure.

 

 

edit - sorry for this - I was responding to chat from the last page (hadn't realised the thread had moved on)


Edited by raband - 1/17/13 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by SoAmusing777 View Post

 

You're up late. Please read above you will you? Need your help. That's exactly what I thought. I remember you telling me about that. Glad to hear this though.

Are you on PC or console?

 

PC go for Titanium HD

 

Console go mixamp.

 

For gaming this is.

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 but I have no clue where to find music like that.

Not for LFMAO in particular, but a good source for good lossless. https://www.hdtracks.com

 

edit: forgot the link


Edited by raband - 1/17/13 at 4:30am
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Alice in Chains - MTV Unplugged - Rooster - FLAC

 

I thought I was happy until I put that song on - wow. Made all the money spent worth it.

 

I used to use my MP3 of that song as my goto standard for listening. The FLAC just ripped me a third ear I'm sure.

 

 

edit - sorry for this - I was responding to chat from the last page (hadn't realised the thread had moved on)

Who knows. I doubt I can tell a difference.

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Originally Posted by raband View Post

Are you on PC or console?

 

PC go for Titanium HD

 

Console go mixamp.

 

For gaming this is.

I'd go with a receiver that has Dolby Headphone. I'd like to use PCM.

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Originally Posted by raband View Post

Not for LFMAO in particular, but a good source for good lossless. https://www.hdtracks.com

 

edit: forgot the link

 

Nice website, but just short of a lot of artists I like.

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My yamaha receiver is sitting in its box in the garage right now since I had switched over to a harman kardon over a year ago. The thing about the SC is that I couldn't really find a setting that I liked, it was either too much reverb and echo or too closed. I eventually had to get something new when I found out the receiver would flicker video on 1080p displays when I had upgraded to the slim xbox. The HK receiver only does DH2 which is my sweet spot so that's the main reason why I prefer DH over SC. My yamaha is a '09 or '10 model so it doesn't have all the dsp settings that newer or current models have.

 

I know this is an extremely old post, but just was reading around. I wish I would have read this sooner, but, I think I still needed to audition this for myself, lol. Now I have to sell it. Those are basically my thoughts on it as well. I have the RX-A710. I'm only missing out on a few DSP modes, which wouldn't have even helped with gaming. I emailed them. It was a bunch of Hall DSP's basically.


Edited by SoAmusing777 - 1/17/13 at 5:06am
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Question for Mixamp 2013 owners out there.  Understanding that the 2013 edition is "warmer" than the previous versions, is anyone out there getting distortion during peaks of high volume? 

 

For example, in Black Ops 2, when any type of explosion takes place in my immediate vicinity, the Mixamp seems to produce distortion on the low-end.  I'm running my Mixamp at 100% volume through an E09k to my DT 990 (600 ohm).  I also have the EQ set on "Core."  Master volume on the game and the dashboard is maxed and I control the volume through the E09k.

 

Maybe I have the volume of the mixamp or the dashboard set too high or maybe it is the product of the 990s living up to their "boomy" nature.  Just wanted to see if anyone has heard this on the 2013 Mixamp, or if anyone had any suggestions to avoid the distortion.

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I know that the threadstarter doesn't support stereo topics, but maybe some other people could give me some good advice about this. In the end I decided to not to go with a Mixamp and buy myself a pair of the DT 880 Premium 600 Ohm. Now I need a amp/DAC. After Mad's recommendation a FiiO E09k + E17 combo should performe good. This combo is available for 250€ on german amazon. But some people already told me, that the E17 itself is already good enough to drive 600 Ohm headphones such as the DT 880. It'll be for desktop purpose only. What do you think, folks?

 

Another question: A week ago I ordered myself some DX min-clipon Microphones, as I thought I'd go with the mixamp. Do you think the mic will work with a 3,5mm to 2,5mm adapter to the xbox gamepad?

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Originally Posted by kellte2 View Post

Question for Mixamp 2013 owners out there.  Understanding that the 2013 edition is "warmer" than the previous versions, is anyone out there getting distortion during peaks of high volume? 

 

For example, in Black Ops 2, when any type of explosion takes place in my immediate vicinity, the Mixamp seems to produce distortion on the low-end.  I'm running my Mixamp at 100% volume through an E09k to my DT 990 (600 ohm).  I also have the EQ set on "Core."  Master volume on the game and the dashboard is maxed and I control the volume through the E09k.

 

Maybe I have the volume of the mixamp or the dashboard set too high or maybe it is the product of the 990s living up to their "boomy" nature.  Just wanted to see if anyone has heard this on the 2013 Mixamp, or if anyone had any suggestions to avoid the distortion.

 

I have the 2013 Mixamp paired with my XBox 360, Samson SR850's, and an LVA 7330 Mic. I usually have my master volume knob on the Mixamp at about 11 o'clock or noon, if I really want my ears to pound I will turn it to 1 o'clock. The SR850's are very easy to drive so I do not have any external amp. But even at the loudest sound that I can stand, I do not hear any distortion. FYI, the SR850's are AWESOME budget gaming headphones. SR850>>>>>>Razer Carcharias>>>TB PX 21's
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How sad it is to be internet famous, lol. I cannot believe all these years you've not heard a quality "normal" can.

 

Well, I have heard the AD700...and the HTF600...and the CitiScape Uptown...and a vintage Sansui SS-20. That's about it for "normal" cans. No Sennheisers, Beyerdynamics, AKGs, Denons, or Ultrasones to be found there. You know, the kind of headphones people talk about all the time. Rarely does anyone talk about Stax unless it's the flagship Omega-series models.

 

I just happened to be in a circumstance where instead of stepping up to AD900s or DT880s like I was originally thinking, I suddenly saw this Stax Lambda setup at a price I could afford, recalled the people in a PC gaming thread praising it for its gaming prowess, and the rest is history. Haven't really felt the need to buy more headphones since, other than sheer curiosity. Curiosity that often left me disappointed, at that.

 

Most people jump into electrostatics very late in their headphone journey, if they choose to do so at all. I did so very early, and that means I don't have any common frames of reference to compare to the Stax setups I've heard.


Edited by NamelessPFG - 1/17/13 at 12:01pm
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