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post #106 of 25578
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Originally Posted by VulgarDisplay View Post

Does dolby headphone sound better than stereo?  Absolutely not.  Does it provide better positional audio.  Probably.  

 

Any time you subject your audio to some sort of equalizer or digital processing it degrades from the original source.  I use my soundcard in audio creation mode even when I'm gaming, and I refuse to use CMSS3d because it sounds horrible.  

 

Well I think by quality in the competitive sense, positional accuracy trumps stereo reproduction and clarity anyday... I wouldn't be surprised if you were the only one in this thread who isn't using Dolby Headphone. If it means anything to you, the Mixamp sounds nothing like the CMSS3d you mentioned.

post #107 of 25578

Yeah, I noticed my AX720s, which are strictly for the xbox (Cheaper than the mixamp, and it's the whole shebang) sound so much different than CMSS3D. As much as I love CMSS3D for its superb accuracy, DH just seems to be more fun to listen to. Like it went from playing the game, to being in a movie like replication of the game in real life... If that makes any sense.

post #108 of 25578

Just for the record, I hate you guys for making me want to get a MixAmp. 

post #109 of 25578

I'm sure your wallet does too, but you won't once it arrives! wink_face.gif

post #110 of 25578

Can any pls tell me how good the Siberia V2's are? ty

post #111 of 25578
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Do you use your PRO 900's with Dolby Headphone?  I tried DH with mine, but the results were inconsistent and not as precise as straight stereo.  I've only tried it with a couple of PC fps (Bad Company 2 and Team Fortress 2), but I wasn't impressed with the precision of the sound stage/placement.  I chalked it up to the offset drivers, but others have reported positive results with the pairing.  I'm just curious what your experience (and that of others) has been with the pairing.



I played a game of L4D2 last night with my Pro900s and DH off and output set to stereo. I didn't like it at all! After a couple of minutes I had to switch it back to 8ch + DH.

 

I felt like I had completely lost my directional awareness in stereo mode!

post #112 of 25578
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Originally Posted by misformatt View Post

Do you use your PRO 900's with Dolby Headphone?  I tried DH with mine, but the results were inconsistent and not as precise as straight stereo.  I've only tried it with a couple of PC fps (Bad Company 2 and Team Fortress 2), but I wasn't impressed with the precision of the sound stage/placement.  I chalked it up to the offset drivers, but others have reported positive results with the pairing.  I'm just curious what your experience (and that of others) has been with the pairing.


I use them with the Astro Mixamp, and the results are phenominal. If anything the offset drivers work in favor of this combo. Sure it lacks the airiness of an open headphone, but all the space is there. I think it highly depends on what kind of virtual surround you are using; I have heard terrible things about a lot of PC virtual surround but I think it completely depends on the sound card. My sound card isn't that great so I just use the Mixamp for everything, and it does an excellent job.

post #113 of 25578

I was looking at getting the Mixamp as well, but my wife bought me the Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS for Christmas (it was in my Amazon wish list :P ) and I have been pleasantly surprised with the audio from this thing.  I have used it with my PS3 and I just hooked it up to the optical out on my Auzentech Forte and enabled DD Live in the settings and it actually sounds good.  I get a great sense of a surround-sound type space when using it.  I actually switch between that and CMSS3D and I don't know which I like better at this point.  It's quite good.

 

My setup is as follows:

 

Auzentech Forte Digital Out (DD Live) --> Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS --> RCA splitter --> Matrix M-Stage --> Beyer DT880/600s

 

Just thought I would throw my two cents in for those looking for a somewhat cheaper alternative to the mixamp. 

post #114 of 25578

I'm trying to figure out if theres a way to use a mic on the xbox 360 with the ear force DSS, I got my Creative Aurvana Live headphones today and so far my only option is to strap the xbox 360 one around my neck, it's fine but wouldn't mind modding a mic onto the side of the headphones or something and getting it going, I know you can with the mixamp but I went the cheaper route lol.

 

As for the headphones, I think they are great imo, I finished top of the table like 10 - 15 times (HC S&D) so there doing something right, can hear footsteps well and know where the are 100% of the time.

 

My AD700 Bstocks just got posted there, so will get them tomorrow, can't wait to try them out!

post #115 of 25578
Thread Starter 

The only headsets that will allow voice chat on the DSS are the Turtle Beach headsets.

 

For everything else, you're screwed unless you buy the Steelseries Spectrum Audio Mixer.

 

http://steelseries.com/products/consoles/steelseries-spectrum-audio-mixer-xb

 

For the price of the DSS and the Audio Mixer, you could've just gotten the Mixamp or AX720. The DSS + Audio Mixer is a cluttered mess.

post #116 of 25578


stereo is still way to go. if ever listen to speakers with great soundstage and imagery you'll personally think ''Why was HT ever created?'' and feel it was a gimmick from the get-go. stereo imagery is still best way to detect exact precision of sound cues. even playing in stereo on my speakers with no type of digital processing like fear 2 for example. i can hear the each shell that pops out the gun hit the floor behind me and bounce with exact precision or enemy in the distance behind a wall to my left. i can even hear a helicopter past by my head in stereo as well. also if you play games with lot of environmental sounds like BFBC2 or LP2 it can be exciting to be able to hear mosquitoes pass by your ear or a bird chirping in the distance behind you.

Yes,what i just described is all stereo. 2-channels that is processing soundfield  in full 360 degrees. same goes for headphones.

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Your information is appreciated. I find it strange though that the person concerned about the best possible audio and video quality is the same person who is "perfectly fine" gaming competitively in stereo? Or am I mistaken?
post #117 of 25578
Thread Starter 

Disagree wholeheartedly. Stereo doesn't come close to the kind of directional cues DH/HT gives. Sure you get easier right/left, but front and back are nowhere near... it's not even close... but to each their own.

 

post #118 of 25578
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Originally Posted by RexAeterna View Post

stereo is still way to go. if ever listen to speakers with great soundstage and imagery you'll personally think ''Why was HT ever created?'' and feel it was a gimmick from the get-go. stereo imagery is still best way to detect exact precision of sound cues. even playing in stereo on my speakers with no type of digital processing like fear 2 for example. i can hear the each shell that pops out the gun hit the floor behind me and bounce with exact precision or enemy in the distance behind a wall to my left. i can even hear a helicopter past by my head in stereo as well. also if you play games with lot of environmental sounds like BFBC2 or LP2 it can be exciting to be able to hear mosquitoes pass by your ear or a bird chirping in the distance behind you.

Yes,what i just described is all stereo. 2-channels that is processing soundfield  in full 360 degrees. same goes for headphones.

 

Um... You do realize this whole thread is based on Dolby Headphone? Have you even tried a good virtual surround setup? All the information in this thread; especially MLE's impressions is based on how well these headphones synergize with Dolby Headphone; the experience is not at all the same as stereo.

 

Seriously guys, this is something you have to try before making all your claims to stereo gaming...

post #119 of 25578


you are still in time for returning them :P and then get a mixamp hehehe :P

 

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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

I was looking at getting the Mixamp as well, but my wife bought me the Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS for Christmas (it was in my Amazon wish list :P ) and I have been pleasantly surprised with the audio from this thing.  I have used it with my PS3 and I just hooked it up to the optical out on my Auzentech Forte and enabled DD Live in the settings and it actually sounds good.  I get a great sense of a surround-sound type space when using it.  I actually switch between that and CMSS3D and I don't know which I like better at this point.  It's quite good.

post #120 of 25578


i knew that. i was just responding to what you wrote asking about when it comes to gaming why do people use stereo still for gaming. i must of read it wrong and i apologize. i have myself used Direct sound,doby headphone,dobly pro-logic and creative's EAX. i just find plain analog stereo works just as well.

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Um... You do realize this whole thread is based on Dolby Headphone? Have you even tried a good virtual surround setup? All the information in this thread; especially MLE's impressions is based on how well these headphones synergize with Dolby Headphone; the experience is not at all the same as stereo.

 

Seriously guys, this is something you have to try before making all your claims to stereo gaming...

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