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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I don't have the Porta Pro, but I'm 99% sure it's the same driver. Same with the Ksc35. The sound differences is undoubtedly due to the distance and clamp of the drivers.

meh should just get the kcs35 it's clip on so that should be pretty simple and should fit even my ears 

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The KSC35 costs twice as much as the Sportapro. I'd honestly get the Sportapro and KSC75. Take the clips off the KSC75 which are much more comfortable than the KSC35's clips, and put them on the Sportapro drivers. That equals a makeshift KSC35, for $10 less, spare KsC75 drivers if you ever need them, and more comfy. Just make sure to bend in the clips to put the drivers closer to the ears (a good tight fit is essential for sound quality).

Also, for some reason, the Sportapro's cable has a better strain relief and right angle plug. The 6.3mm adapter is also amazing (best adapter I've had to date in that its easy to use and doesn't screw on.)

After getting my clips back, I couldnt go back to them. I've gotten so used to using the KSC35/Sportapro drivers on the KSC75 clips. Ridiculous comfort, and immersive sound. The KSC35 clips make them just a hint more balanced, but loses out on the extra body.

So again: Sportapro + KSC75. Snap off drivers from Sportapro headband, take off clips from KSC75. Put the drivers and clips together, enjoy.

The KSC75 alone is also great, but not warm, slightly mid recessed, and a little metallic in the treble. The bass is faster though.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/29/13 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The KSC35 costs twice as much as the Sportapro. I'd honestly get the Sportapro and KSC75. Take the clips off the KSC75 which are much more comfortable than the KSC35's clips, and put them on the Sportapro drivers. That equals a makeshift KSC35, for $10 less, spare KsC75 drivers if you ever need them, and more comfy. Just make sure to bend in the clips to put the drivers closer to the ears (a good tight fit is essential for sound quality).

Also, for some reason, the Sportapro's cable has a better strain relief and right angle plug. The 6.3mm adapter is also amazing (best adapter I've had to date in that its easy to use and doesn't screw on.)

OH gawd, to much work

 

any one ever try the iGrado, I was thinking about picking one up and DAMN my indeed is NOISY as crap, which means I really need to look into a better tube as that noise is really getting to me, I miss the WARMTH of the tube but NOT the excessive noise >.> that thing is NOT for sensitive cans xD 

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I edited my last post. Check it.

Too much work? All you have to do is snap off the drivers. It takes two seconds. They just pop off.
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OH gawd, to much work

 

any one ever try the iGrado, I was thinking about picking one up and DAMN my indeed is NOISY as crap, which means I really need to look into a better tube as that noise is really getting to me, I miss the WARMTH of the tube but NOT the excessive noise >.> that thing is NOT for sensitive cans xD 

I don't necessarily want to send you off on another buying spree, but I think the noise is due to the Indeed circuit, not the tube. After the first minute or two warming up, Zigis' amp is basically background noise-free. I've only used decent tubes with it (a generic Amperex made in Holland circa 1970, a Sylvania JAN 6DJ8 of unknown vintage, two 1970's Amperex Bugle Boys, and 4 Russian Vokshod 6N23P tubes), but none have been noisy. The Q701 might have dampened the background noise somewhat, but 62 Ohm impedance isn't exactly a high dampening factor.

 

On another note, right now is an exciting time for graphics cards. New nVidia cards have just been released within the mid-range budget, and are reducing the prices for some quite competent graphics. I'm having a hard time picking between a $180 GTX 570 with a $30 rebate, the new $175 GTX 650 Ti Boost, or a $205 GTX 660 with a $20 rebate. Kiiiinda wanna pick the cheapest, and then snag the next X-Fi Ti HD sale or a Z-series sound card, but it might also be good to stretch my budget just a little for the GTX 660 with better power consumption rating. We be doing some immersive gaming soon, neh?

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Radeon 7970 GOGOGO. biggrin.gif

Oh wait, I dunno about the desktop versions.

I'll be sending back the 128gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD and ordered the 256gb version. It has a noticeable jump in write speed, and double the cache. Didn't wanna gimp myself.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/29/13 at 8:58am
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SOOOOOOOO...

I bought an Alienware M17x R4 laptop. Yeah, yeah, overpriced. Why did I get it? One main reason: It has an HDMI input. I absolutely can't find another laptop with an Hdmi INPUT (meaning that I can plug in my PS3, etc to it's display).

Anyways:

Processor 2.40 (boost to 3.40) GHz Intel Core i7 3630QM
RAM 6 GB (I just ordered a 4gb 1600mhz sticks to replace the stock ones)
Hard Drive 1TB (also bought a 128gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD as well)
GFX card: AMD 7970M. It's the best AMD gfx card that rivals Nvidia's flagship GTX680m from what I've read...

I maxed out my Amazon card with this, so no more headphone purchases for awhile... rolleyes.gif

Looks like it's LCD2 for now.

Also looks like I'm gonna FINALLY get into some PC gaming. biggrin.gif

I sold my desktop to family, and I'm selling my monitor. This will do it all, literally. I might end up selling my 65" plasma as well.

Here's the Amazon page (different configuration but it shows what the M17x does)

http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AM17xR4-8424BK-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Stealth/dp/B00ANG3ULW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364486819&sr=1-1&keywords=m17x+r4



M17 R4 is a sexy beast, it's got a very nice screen as well. Not exactly IPS panel quality, but a very nice screen regardless. The keyboard is also well above average comfort wise.

If you're looking for something free to play that will blow your eyeballs out with PC glory, check out Mechwarrior Online (runs on CryEngine 3 just like Crysis 3 does) The audio isn't anything to write home about though, sadly. Their idea of game audio with enormous robots is WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP THUD THUD THUD, but once you turn the bass way down the rest of the game sounds like what I'd say is above average.

Also Planetside 2 is absolutely worth looking at even though the framerate tanks as soon as you get into a big battle. Quite satisfying to roll in alongside a multi-platoon zerg that's fielding hundreds of tanks and aircraft. Also, you will die an insultingly large amount of times. If you've ever yelled at your screen in a singleplayer game for NPC enemies having crazy laser x-ray vision imagine a hundred people eyes peeled on the base perimeter all with the ability to tag your position for several seconds.

P.S. I know you're a Zircon fan, so if you haven't tried listening to his new album Identity Sequence on the LCD-2s yet... do it. I have a friend with the LCDs and he has an addiction... a several repeats a day addiction for over three months that I'm responsible for.

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I bought Zircon's first CD. Been awhile, lol.

So far the Mad Dogs haven't left me impressed for gaming. Soundstage is small, and the sound isn't immersive to say the least. It's pretty neutral sounding and linear, but lacks the body and power of the LCD2. Positional cues are decent at best. If I had to rate it right now, I'd say: Fun: 6.5, Competitive: 6.5.

Just one of those headphones that works better for music, and not virtual surround gaming. This is just typical deficiencies of very closed and isolating headphones, for the most part. Basically a more detailed and neutral M50 in terms of what I can compare it to for gaming.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/29/13 at 10:01am
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I bought Zircon's first CD. Been awhile, lol.

 

FYI his Bandcamp page is http://zirconstudios.bandcamp.com/

PrototypeRaptor has a brand new album out too on his page - http://prototyperaptor.bandcamp.com/

Lots of Overclocked Remix talent topping the Bandcamp charts lately, and only part of it is due to the entrenched fandom :D

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Radeon 7970 GOGOGO. biggrin.gif

Oh wait, I dunno about the desktop versions.

I'll be sending back the 128gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD and ordered the 256gb version. It has a noticeable jump in write speed, and double the cache. Didn't wanna gimp myself.

A little out of my budget ATM... cheapest one is $420, over double what I'm willing to pay. PS what's the price difference on that SSD from the smaller sized drive? $70? Either one will be way faster than anything you've experienced on PS3 or Xbox, mostly you'll have 1/4 less time to read the things on a loading screen. With my early 6G Sata III SSD, games load in like 3 seconds, but a larger drive helps maintain that speed longer.

 

I'll have to check out that Zircon CD :D

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Lol, just went 35-5 on CoD4 TDM. The Mad Dogs are pretty clear. I guess that helps for competitive gaming, but I wouldn't count much on actual positional accuracy in comparison to some of the higher rated cans.
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I don't necessarily want to send you off on another buying spree, but I think the noise is due to the Indeed circuit, not the tube. After the first minute or two warming up, Zigis' amp is basically background noise-free. I've only used decent tubes with it (a generic Amperex made in Holland circa 1970, a Sylvania JAN 6DJ8 of unknown vintage, two 1970's Amperex Bugle Boys, and 4 Russian Vokshod 6N23P tubes), but none have been noisy. The Q701 might have dampened the background noise somewhat, but 62 Ohm impedance isn't exactly a high dampening factor.

 

On another note, right now is an exciting time for graphics cards. New nVidia cards have just been released within the mid-range budget, and are reducing the prices for some quite competent graphics. I'm having a hard time picking between a $180 GTX 570 with a $30 rebate, the new $175 GTX 650 Ti Boost, or a $205 GTX 660 with a $20 rebate. Kiiiinda wanna pick the cheapest, and then snag the next X-Fi Ti HD sale or a Z-series sound card, but it might also be good to stretch my budget just a little for the GTX 660 with better power consumption rating. We be doing some immersive gaming soon, neh?

oh lawl, when I said tube I meant Tube amp. I'm well aware that it's not the tube it self but as you said the Indeed amp circuit. I need a new TUBE amp lol,

 

AN as far as gamin goes, since monster hunter has come out I don't really pc game all that much... I might hit up some fire fall but that looks just fine at mid graphics with 1920 1080 

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Picked up a 5.8 mixamp as well for $90, description said rarely used, like new condition so I think I did pretty well there. Should arrive next Wednesday like the Pro 900's, pretty pumped to get everything set up. Also picking up a battery pack, ps3 chat cable and possibly the belt clip.
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I think in terms of a portable headphone, it would have to be incredibly easy to drive, like the Custom One Pro, or Audio Technica ES7, etc
Headphones not known to scale with amping. Not sure how the Momentum fits in that category.

For now, I'm just sticking to the now leather LCD2 as my one full sized can. Comfort is spotty, but it's not a torture device, and the sound really makes up for it.

The Koss clips ons will continue to be my go to for portable use. Can't live without them.


The momentum has an 18 ohm impedance that is supposed to get it to decent listening levels without much power (i.e. with any other phone out there or Portable gaming console). I also wanted something that sounded well enough with most songs (not just artificial bass that serves for electronic music which seems to be the case with most portable headphones out there) and the Momentum seemed to fit the bill. Keep in mind, I read dozens of reviews and impressions of portable headphones before deciding to buy this pair. Nevertheless, I feel like I've paid at least $50 extra than I should have because of the whole "lifestyle headphone" moniker.


Edited by Roger de Ceiba - 3/29/13 at 3:06pm
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I just wanted to say something about AKG. They are backed up right now with the "new system", about 3 weeks out. 15th business day before my headphones were looked at. At one time they were 1.5months out. I've been pestering them, so it finally got through today. The biggest thing I remember the actual tech that tested my headphones said was that he does a low frequency sweep to see if the drivers rattle, then a complete sweep, and if nothing is wrong still, he'll listen to some music. If nothing sounds up at that point, he calls the customer to figure out what he/she was hearing, lol. He did say the headphones were like, around 60ohms and later said 75ohms, so that rated impedance of 62ohms seems pretty accurate. He did say that people call in not just floored with the sounds they are getting, and he said they reason for that was they weren't adequately driven. I told him I have a receiver, but he said that the power output to the receiver headphone jack may be pretty weak, so =/ Anybody care to share some knowledge on this?


Edited by SoAmusing777 - 3/29/13 at 5:14pm
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