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:D Just Paid for my Indeed G3! I just hope it get's here without any issues, as Postal Services hate my Country House :[ 

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The MMX300 should be good through the Mixamp alone, but what concerns me is that if its anything like the DT880 32 and 990 32, they WILL want more power, as those two are harder to drive than the 250ohm variants. Not in volume, as they get loud faster, but in driving force. The 990 32 loved the E9K, and improved vs unamped/Mixamp alone.

Just got the Astro A50 in. Christmas came early!

So far just finished hooking it up, and I have to say... I like the sq on the Slyr more. SO FAR. I only just heard some music when selecting a game on the PS3 XMB, so this shouldnt be taken seriously yet. Paired up chat, and the mic is very, very good from the testing on the PS3 chat tweaking.
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Originally Posted by tmaxx123 View Post


I have been on the Astro forums, and alot of people are having issues with their mixamp and/or headset. I haven't seen any of those big problems in my testing, luckily. The firmware was just to fix the low sensitivity on the microphone, and some people reported more issues after upgrading their firmware, so I avoided it. PLUS, I was able to troubleshoot the mic such that it operated nicely for me.
I just hope my mmx300 (coming next week ) isn't underpowered by the mixamp as I already have too much money invested in my gaming setup. Lol

 

I was on there too awhile back. That's good. Smart of you. Haha, you have too much money invested in your gaming setup? How much? Lol, mine is nearing a grand, all for PS3 too, haha, even though I've been a smart, thrifty shopper.

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Those Slyr's only go down to 32 and the a50 and plyr go down to 20.  Can't help but look at the specifications and think the Plyr models have the same driver as the 2013 a40's and a50's.

Those Philips are sexy.  Anyone tried the HE-300's

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I don't look at specs. They are usually exaggerated anyways. Listen with your ears, not with your eyes.

The A50s are wireless which is already an uphill battle. Wired headphones always have an advantage in sound quality.


Not enough testing yet (just woke up), but I wasn't thrilled with the 3 EQ presets on the A50s. 3 makes it super boomy and borderline unusable, 1 makes it cold and analytical, and 2 being the most balanced didn't sound right to my ears. If anything, the first preset has the best SQ in that it's detail oriented. However, the Slyr's innate sound signature is well balanced, with a tilt towards fun, and is pleasureable. It has a signature that screams all rounder. It may not possibly be technically superior, but it's more engaging, from the little I heard of both.

You can make a $10,000 headphone and a $20 one, and if the $20 has a better tonal balance, it won't matter how technically perfect the $10,000 one is.

Again, that was a VERY brief impression on the A50s. No real testing yet. I did test the Slyr for hours upon hours. I was immediately pleased with the Slyr though. Music, TV, and gaming all impressed me.

The A50s... I have a feeling I'm only going to like them for competitive gaming with the first preset, but we'll see.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/7/12 at 6:44pm
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Is the old Astro Mixamp still the best thing to buy for the Xbox 360? I bought a Xbox on Black Friday and I need something for Dolby and chat processing.

Doesn't matter about the amp on the mixamp since it will be plugged into my Meier Concerto to power my headphones.

Thanks.

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Probably any Mixamp that isn't the 2013 (haven't heard it yet, but I hear it's hissy). The Mixamp 5.8 is comparable to the old Mixamp with a bit of hiss, and less versatility, though the wireless is good.
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Hey Mad, how would you compare the sound quality of the SLYR to the CAL?

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I was on there too awhile back. That's good. Smart of you. Haha, you have too much money invested in your gaming setup? How much? Lol, mine is nearing a grand, all for PS3 too, haha, even though I've been a smart, thrifty shopper.

Well I am incredibly thrifty as well haha, so retail price wise I have atleast 700 into my gaming setup. I have a smaller tv ( better for competitive play) so thats most likely the main difference between our setups.

I play ps3 as well :) What headset are you using?

 

 

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The MMX300 should be good through the Mixamp alone, but what concerns me is that if its anything like the DT880 32 and 990 32, they WILL want more power, as those two are harder to drive than the 250ohm variants. Not in volume, as they get loud faster, but in driving force. The 990 32 loved the E9K, and improved vs unamped/Mixamp alone.
Just got the Astro A50 in. Christmas came early!
So far just finished hooking it up, and I have to say... I like the sq on the Slyr more. SO FAR. I only just heard some music when selecting a game on the PS3 XMB, so this shouldnt be taken seriously yet. Paired up chat, and the mic is very, very good from the testing on the PS3 chat tweaking.

 

Cool, thanks for the input! I appreciate it. My subwoofers in my car are wired to 2 ohms, and they need a badass amp to push them, so now that i think of it why would they make the gaming headsets a lower ohm load then the other headsets, if these gaming headsets are supposed to be more versatile. (ie for ipods and a wide variety of sound sources) Wouldn't that just make them harder to push?

 

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Probably any Mixamp that isn't the 2013 (haven't heard it yet, but I hear it's hissy). The Mixamp 5.8 is comparable to the old Mixamp with a bit of hiss, and less versatility, though the wireless is good.

 

How do we check for the "hiss"? I haven't heard any hiss and I have been doing a good deal of testing on my 2013 mixamp.

ie.  I have turned the volume up pretty high during silent parts in game, and didn't run into hiss.
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i see now on the astro forums, that people are talking about the hiss. ill do more testing and report back. on a side note, got delivery confirmation for my mmx300. should be here monday or tuesday. Cant wait :)

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Hey Mad, how would you compare the sound quality of the SLYR to the CAL?



Dont have enough time with the Slyr yet, and im gonna try and borrow the CAL from my stepfather over the weekend. So far, the CAL has a better soundstage and sound quality, but might be more obtrusive in the bass than the Slyr. Stay tuned, so I can form a valid comparison.
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How do we check for the "hiss"? I haven't heard any hiss and I have been doing a good deal of testing on my 2013 mixamp.

 

What headphones are you using? I A/B'd them with the older mixamp I got from a member and an AD700, and the hiss was noticable at about ~60% volume compared with ~90% on the older one. I got that one about 100 pages back before they were officially announced, so maybe they fixed it recently.

 

-Erik


Edited by burritoboy9984 - 12/7/12 at 8:36pm
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What headphones are you using? I A/B'd them with the older mixamp I got from a member and an AD700, and the hiss was noticable at about ~60% volume compared with ~90% on the older one. I got that one about 100 pages back before they were officially announced, so maybe they fixed it recently.

 

-Erik

I am currently using the 2013 A40's. I'll give it a shot in a few when I fire up Black ops 2

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Steelseries Cross Platform Audio Mixer. They will be back in stock in "the beginning of January." NO ONE has them. Not Ebay, not any retailer, not Amazon, so you'll have to buy directly from the website, unless when they get stock back in, the retailers buy some as well.

 

Thanks man.  I actually saw this thing a week ago and thought it was weird it was OOS.  Where did you get the info that it would be back in stock in Jan?  Is this thing highly sought out for?

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I have to eat my words. I just got home and hooked up the A50s directly to my desktop PC through it's optical out. MUCH better impression of them. Please disregard the first impression I had of them. They sound decent for music, atm, albeit a bit mid recessed, and quite bassy in comparison to the Slyr. Again, brief first (second) impressions, so stay tuned for a more thorough opinion of them in the days to come.

I also got the presets confused. Preset 1 is bass enhanced, preset 2 is flat, and preset 3 is treble enhanced. FWIH, the differences in stereo while listening to music seems to be negligible, or maybe even off. It seems that the presets work only through Dolby Headphone. I'll ask Astro directly, as I can't hear the difference, but it was obvious in DH. I can't even turn on DH while connected to the PC, which I assume is because the Mixamp has to find a Dolby Digital signal to allow it.

Currently have:
Slyr -> E17 (USB) -> PC
A50 -> PC (Optical)

The main difference between the Slyr and A50 that I hear is that the A50s have a bigger soundstage in stereo (haven't tested them for gaming yet). The Slyr sounds constricted in it's soundstage in comparison, though the actual audio quality is still good, and more focused than the A50s. The vocals are considerably more forward on the Slyr. The A50s's bass is a bit too heavy, personally. Very unlike how I remember the first gen A40s, which was bass light.

Also notice the Astro A50's internal DAC only accepts 16/48 in the sound properties. Not that it matters as the vast majority of content is 16/44 or 16/48 anyways.

First round for music: Slyr over the A50s.

Also wanna mention the SLYR sounds brighter than the A50s. Probably due to the tighter bass and forward mids.

edit: Just did an update on the A50's transmitter as well as the headset. Wonder what the changes will bring.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/8/12 at 6:19am
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