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So I've read about everything on the PC 363D on this thread and on the Web but I'm still confused about what I should do.

 

I have a Rampage IV Formula motherboard and after some reading, it seems like the built-in SupremeFX III audio chip on that motherboard is complete garbage (or REALLY similar to a normal Realtek onboard chip, plus the EMI insulation).

 

With that said, I'm used to really cheap gaming headsets marketing towards gamers, like the Corsair Vengence 1500 and the Plantronics Gamecom 780. I know that all of these are actually bad overall, but they do offer some kind of 5.1 virtual emulation via their integrated USB soundcard and I have to say that it definitely makes a difference when watching movies. I have to also consider that I'm not an audiophile at all and that I use my computer mainly for gaming, YouTube, a little bit of music and some movies (that I usually end up watching on my computers where I have a good pair of headphones, not a headset).

 

With all that said, I'm looking for a good headset for my computer, something that would give me some better positional audio since I'm mostly playing FPS. The only real good headset according to the front page reviews is the Sennheiser PC 360. Now, the 363D is the same but with an addin USB chip.

 

I would like to know more about that USB soundcard. I do have kind of a better soundcard with my ROG motherboard, although audiophiles will say it's garbage anyway. I'm not an audiophile. I just want good positional audio. Is the included soundcard with the 363D good? Is it worth it? I don't see any website carrying the 360 anymore, but they do have the G4ME One and G4ME Zero that don't come with any USB soundcard for the same price (around 200$ CAD, it's Black Friday right now).

 

For my needs, do I really need to spend 50$+ on a dedicated soundcard with a motherboard that is supposed to come with already better than the usual integrated chips? Will it really make a noticeable difference for me?

 

Switching from a cheap headset like the Corsair Vengence 1500 to the 363D with the built-in USB soundcard: will I notice the difference? Would you say that the difference will be as big if I then switch to a dedicated audio card or external amp?

 

Thank you.

The dongle that comes with the pc363d sounds like the astro mix amp..it gives the headset dolby headphone surround, it doesn't need any external power it uses the usb for power..it's a no brainer!

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where is it $80?

Amazon.com

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The dongle that comes with the pc363d sounds like the astro mix amp..it gives the headset dolby headphone surround, it doesn't need any external power it uses the usb for power..it's a no brainer!

 

From rudyae86: "Just going to keep it short. The usb that the 363d comes with...its not really a great dac/dsp, at least from what I have read."

 

Hard to figure out if it's good or not after reading these 2 posts!

 

If you tell me that I'll see a huuuge difference from a 60$ discounted sound card, I will go that route instead with whatever stereo headset is the best for the price.

 

I kind of want the best quality/price ratio at the end of the day and be able to get better positional audio than my actual setup with either my Corsair Vengence 1500 or Plantronics Gamecom 780 (that shouldn't be really hard to beat lol).

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X1 for $180 is a fantastic choice for those who want a bassy, open headphone. I still think the X2 is more worthwhile, however.
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From rudyae86: "Just going to keep it short. The usb that the 363d comes with...its not really a great dac/dsp, at least from what I have read."

Hard to figure out if it's good or not after reading these 2 posts!

If you tell me that I'll see a huuuge difference from a 60$ discounted sound card, I will go that route instead with whatever stereo headset is the best for the price.

I kind of want the best quality/price ratio at the end of the day and be able to get better positional audio than my actual setup with either my Corsair Vengence 1500 or Plantronics Gamecom 780 (that shouldn't be really hard to beat lol).

I understand your predicament.
The corsair used to be one of the highest rated PC headsets in the entry level price bracket, so basically I'd say if you want an upgrade don't get any headset lesser than a Sennheiser PC360 (which is like an HD 555 with a mic, you pay quite a bit for a mic there) or a Beyerdynamic MMX300 (a DT770 with mic, same story as the Senn). If your current "level" is fine, it seems the Hypercloud X is now the best entry-level price headset, but it'll be only a little better.

I haven't heard the PC363D dongle, but I have owned the SoundBlaster Z and know that has enough component quality to impress you, and it's safe to consider it'll be better sounding than the bundled dongle once you consider the manufacturer's cost in selecting the quality of it's DAC and amp. So, quality is an easy recommendAtion for the Creative component. That said, if you just want to spend minimal, then the dongle DOES come with Dolby Headphone and it would be better than motherboard audio, so it wins on purely paying less but still getting surround.

I'd normally say make your own choice, but right now I'd say you'll be happier with a creative Soundblaster Z or Omni AND both of those are on sale, so just grab one of those! Ernest recommendation, from satisfied experience smily_headphones1.gif
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I did pay attention. I'm buying from either NCIX or Newegg (Canada). There are still plenty of deals and there will still be next week, the week after and after Christmas too.

I'm also a tech junky and really like to run optimal setups and don't want to buy an audio card I will change after a few months. Also, I did appreciate the 5.1 emulation from my cheap headsets when watching movies. Would I still get this with a 60$ soundcard? I read on this thread that the only way to get 5.1 was actually through the digital output of the soundcard and with a really good external amp.

Also, the HD598 doesn't come with a mic. I'm not a fan of modding.

Thanks for your help.

well the sound blaster z does 5.1 speakers set up and i think 7.1 virtual surround sound with headphone. It already comes with a 600ohm internal amp as well. it also comes with input and output optical to hook up or chain a seperate DAC/AMP while still getting the virtual surround to your headphones.

 

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I guess he explained it better lol

But yeah, if budget is a concern and you want better audio than from your motherboard, the dongle will be sufficient enough. I should have read that you had a budget. I was at work, so sometimes Ill just skim through instead of reading everything.

 

But if you can shell out 60 dollars for a dedicated sound card, you will be impressed. I cant wait to get my sound blaster z

 

dammit, i used the long shipping method to get 1 dollar credit on amazon prime lol

 

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Also, there was some reviews on amazon regarding the usb dongle to fail. But i guess thats techonlogy and anything that can happen, will happen.

 

as long as you are careful and dont randomly hit the dongle with some brisk random movements behind your case, you should be fine.

 

Also, Not sure if you like Dolby Headphone more or SBX?

 

EVShrug and myself tend to like SBX more than Dolby.....but you may be different


Edited by rudyae86 - Today at 7:08 pm
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