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With all the hoopla about the AKG K7XX, I'm trying to process all the info and come to a decision. I would really appreciate feedback.

 

My primary use - or the use that I weigh more heavily - for headphones will be gaming, a combination of competitive fps (COD, Halo), sports games (FIFA), racing games (Forza) and some single player games. I currently have a 2014 Mixamp Pro and Audio Technica AD700. I have had my eye on the Q701 for some time, and was planning on purchasing it at some point. The release of the K7XX has changed things. 

 

Considering these things would the AKG K7XX be a no-brainer over the Q701? I could always try the Q701 pads to see if I prefer them for competitive gaming over the K7XX pads. Plus the AKG K7XX has a more comfortable headband. 

 

I will try the AKG + mic with the Mixamp Pro alone, but if I find it lacking power, what DAC/Amp would you guys recommend I pair with the K7XX? I would like to keep the price in the $100 range. 

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The AKGs are amazing and great values... You can have headphones a little more technically proficient when you buy Summit-Fi headphones, but even with my STAX I still find that I really enjoy listening to my K612 too.

According to reports, the original Annie pads were less deep and if the KXX are using those then they're probably about as deep as the K612 pads (though memory foam), while K712 pads are juuuust a little bit deeper, like hard-to-see-how-much deeper. On many-hour gaming sessions, sometimes I miss the featherweight AD700, it was easier for me to forget the partially on-ear pads of the AD700 (meant to push/angle your ears against your head) than the slight weight increase of the AKGs (235g or 238g is still really light!), but both were great for me and five hours of gaming... This includes the K612.

If you have a Mixamp already and want more power, you won't find a substantially better DAC that processes virtual surround until you get the X7 which is definitely a higher-grade component than fits in a $100 budget. A few inexpensive options for just an AMP that you can plug into the Mixamp (and thus use the chat balance feature) would be a FiiO E11k or a Fred_Fred_2004 3-channels amp (custom built in an Altoids tin, with a 9v battery, reviewed in head-Fi member ClieOS portable amp roundup). Of the entry-level DACs that process surround sound (wish we could call them gamer DACs, calling them "Mixamps" is like Kleenex, using one brand that's not the best to name an entire product segment), I haven't heard Tritton's processor but all the other gamer DACs sound a little better than a Mixamp... I choose to get by without external chat balance mixing.
Edited by Evshrug - Today at 12:17 pm
post #27228 of 27236
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Originally Posted by High Fidelity View Post
 

With all the hoopla about the AKG K7XX, I'm trying to process all the info and come to a decision. I would really appreciate feedback.

 

My primary use - or the use that I weigh more heavily - for headphones will be gaming, a combination of competitive fps (COD, Halo), sports games (FIFA), racing games (Forza) and some single player games. I currently have a 2014 Mixamp Pro and Audio Technica AD700. I have had my eye on the Q701 for some time, and was planning on purchasing it at some point. The release of the K7XX has changed things. 

 

Considering these things would the AKG K7XX be a no-brainer over the Q701? I could always try the Q701 pads to see if I prefer them for competitive gaming over the K7XX pads. Plus the AKG K7XX has a more comfortable headband. 

 

I will try the AKG + mic with the Mixamp Pro alone, but if I find it lacking power, what DAC/Amp would you guys recommend I pair with the K7XX? I would like to keep the price in the $100 range. 

 

IMHO, yes, the K7XX is a no-brainer over the Q701.  Are you looking for a desktop amp or a portable amp?  Pretty much anything in the amp section of the guide will work fine.

post #27229 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

IMHO, yes, the K7XX is a no-brainer over the Q701.  Are you looking for a desktop amp or a portable amp?  Pretty much anything in the amp section of the guide will work fine.

 

Desktop, as my setup is in one room. The only situation I would need portability is if/when I took my laptop into another room and wanted to listen to music. 

post #27230 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

The AKGs are amazing and great values... You can have headphones a little more technically proficient when you buy Summit-Fi headphones, but even with my STAX I still find that I really enjoy listening to my K612 too.

According to reports, the original Annie pads were less deep and if the KXX are using those then they're probably about as deep as the K612 pads (though memory foam), while K712 pads are juuuust a little bit deeper, like hard-to-see-how-much deeper. On many-hour gaming sessions, sometimes I miss the featherweight AD700, it was easier for me to forget the partially on-ear pads of the AD700 (meant to push/angle your ears against your head) than the slight weight increase of the AKGs (235g or 238g is still really light!), but both were great for me and five hours of gaming... This includes the K612.

If you have a Mixamp already and want more power, you won't find a substantially better DAC that processes virtual surround until you get the X7 which is definitely a higher-grade component than fits in a $100 budget. A few inexpensive options for just an AMP that you can plug into the Mixamp (and thus use the chat balance feature) would be a FiiO E11k or a Fred_Fred_2004 3-channels amp (custom built in an Altoids tin, with a 9v battery, reviewed in head-Fi member ClieOS portable amp roundup). Of the entry-level DACs that process surround sound (wish we could call them gamer DACs, calling them "Mixamps" is like Kleenex, using one brand that's not the best to name an entire product segment), I haven't heard Tritton's processor but all the other gamer DACs sound a little better than a Mixamp... I choose to get by without external chat balance mixing.

Does that mean the K702 pads are deeper than both? I had both the K612 and K702 pads with me and found the K702 substantially deeper and more comfortable.

post #27231 of 27236
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

Does that mean the K702 pads are deeper than both? I had both the K612 and K702 pads with me and found the K702 substantially deeper and more comfortable.

The Q701 (same pads) are angled, I didn't use any measuring instruments but basically the K712 pad height = the top part of the angled pads.
post #27232 of 27236
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Originally Posted by High Fidelity View Post

Desktop, as my setup is in one room. The only situation I would need portability is if/when I took my laptop into another room and wanted to listen to music. 

I'm having a hard time thinking of a desktop amp under $100, only a FiiO E9 comes to mind.

I wonder if anyone has done an E11K vs E09K comparison? Reviews rave about the E11K's performance, it's a portable FYI.
Edited by Evshrug - Today at 12:35 pm
post #27233 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I'm having a hard time thinking of a desktop amp under $100, only a FiiO E9 comes to mind.

I wonder if anyone has done an E11K vs E09K comparison? Reviews rave about the E11K's performance, it's a portable FYI.

 

Schiit Magni comes to mind as well.

post #27234 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Elf-1 View Post
 

Yeah the headset just has 2 x 3.5mm jack as you can see in the video posted by Martin just above your own post. And then you can choose to attach the USB surround dongle, but that won't work on PS4 I guess? For PS4 just attach it to the Mixamp and then the Mixamp with optical and usb to PS4? 

 

Soundwise, what do you guys think of the PC 363D, is it a worth buy? The guy on the video calls it an upgraded version of the PC 360 and MLE was positive in his review of the PC 360. 


Right I will explain to you what the pc363d are..they are the pc360's with a dongle/headphone amp that plugs into your pcs usb port and gives the headphones dolby headphone..the pc360's haven't got any surround sound just stereo..if you can get the pc360s cheap get them, if not get the newer G4ME ZERO headset..or if you are not bothered about playing bf4 multiplayer and having a mic to talk to friends do what I did and get the AKG545 and plug them straight into your ps4 controller!

post #27235 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Yeah, Martin likes posting videos, but I'm at work so I can't watch them.  ;)

 

But yeah, can't use the USB bit on the console.  Save $50 and get the G4ME One (which is also an upgraded version of the PC360) IMO.  You're paying more for the dongle that you'll never use.

Okay, the PC 363D is a headset that I can get new for 139 euros, while the G4ME One is 209 euros here. Is it worth the price difference/is it an improvement soundwise? 

 

 

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Originally Posted by martin vegas View Post
 


Right I will explain to you what the pc363d are..they are the pc360's with a dongle/headphone amp that plugs into your pcs usb port and gives the headphones dolby headphone..the pc360's haven't got any surround sound just stereo..if you can get the pc360s cheap get them, if not get the newer G4ME ZERO headset..or if you are not bothered about playing bf4 multiplayer and having a mic to talk to friends do what I did and get the AKG545 and plug them straight into your ps4 controller!

 

 

The problem is that the PC360's are 159 euros and I can get the PC 363D new for 139 euros. G4ME Zero is even more expensive with 220 euros and they both are not an improvement over the PC 363D, correct? 

post #27236 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Elf-1 View Post
 

Okay, the PC 363D is a headset that I can get new for 139 euros, while the G4ME One is 209 euros here. Is it worth the price difference/is it an improvement soundwise? 

 

 

 

The problem is that the PC360's are 159 euros and I can get the PC 363D new for 139 euros. G4ME Zero is even more expensive with 220 euros and they both are not an improvement over the PC 363D, correct? 

Oh interesting.  The 363D is $50 more than the G4ME One here.  It seems like the 363D is the cheapest of the three and you don't need to use the USB dongle, so it seems to be the obvious choice.

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