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Guys, the meat of my T51 review will be up here: Headphone.guru As I have stated, this will probably be once in awhile, and I'll still have the final scores up here on the guide. Just the main review will be posted there. Chrck it out if you have the chance. I'm not on there yet though.

As for the 5.8, the only cable I utilize is the headphone cable to the Rx, that's it. On the rare occasion I chat (which is like...almost never), yeah, I have to contend with the cable between RX and the DS4, but that's hardly what I'd call problematic.

I wish there was some form of bluetooth mini audio receiver to attach to the RX unit and one on the DS4. That way, no cable. Lol.

Like something that only communicates with it's other half. Of course, it would put some strain on the DS4 and Mixamp's inputs, so some duble sided tape or velcro would be a possible solution.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 9/1/14 at 4:17am
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Or if you could just use Bluetooth 4.0 headsets and the console would do the headphone surround processing for us natively with AMD TrueAudio.

But, with my monitor and short-range setup, I prefer my own wired headphones and amps.
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One week left, guys! Woop woop!
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One week left, guys! Woop woop!

 

Yeah! I'm super excited for the Apple event on the 9th and the T-Mobile Uncarrier 7.0 on the 10th!

 

Oh, and Destiny.

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There's an Apple event on the 9th? What's it for, a smartwatch?

I'd better call off work!
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One week left, guys! Woop woop!

Is your PS4 going to be back in time?

 

In other news, I met up with a fellow head-fi'er in Seattle.  Tried out the HE-560, UE900, XBA-H3, and some Teac IEM's that I didn't bother catching the model number of because they were so bass aenemic.  Caveat:  we were in a relatively (compared to say my man-cave at home) noisy bar and the HE-560 is VERY open.  

 

The short versions:  HE-560 was much more sparkly than I was expecting.  Bass was deep and wide, super controlled and detailed, with enough quantity to be felt but not enough to be "bassy".  Mids were slightly recessed; nothing terrible, but I find that I prefer a more mid-centric sound so it was slightly disappointing.  But it wasn't BAD by any means, just not as great as the treble and the bass.  Overall, fantastic can.  Probably sounds even better when you can hear all the detail.  Worth 4x as much as my Q701?  No.

 

X3 had bloated bass that muddied up the mids, super V-shaped sound, totally not my style.  I didn't like them at all.  Sorry, Change!

 

The Teacs had nice mids and treble and no bass.  Not sure what the point of those were.

 

UE900 was like an inverse V (what do you call that sound sig?).  Very nice, forward mids with great detail and presence in the bass and treble as well.  Insane isolation!  Honestly, these were the star of the show for me.  I really want a pair pretty bad now.  Thinking about selling my HP100 and grabbing one of these $210-$230 ones on eBay.

 

I admit, all you guys who told me that IEM's could be as good as any headphone were (of course) correct.  I'm happy to be proven wrong on that, of course.  Just not looking forward to the hit to my wallet!  lol

 

Oh BTW, he said the HE4 actually has a similar sound signature to the HE560 (after a couple small mods he did to his).  He's going to loan me his to see for myself.  Apparently you can get them used for relatively cheap and people "in the know" think they're an absolute steal.  Guess I'll see for myself soon.

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Guys, the meat of my T51 review will be up here: Headphone.guru As I have stated, this will probably be once in awhile, and I'll still have the final scores up here on the guide. Just the main review will be posted there. Chrck it out if you have the chance. I'm not on there yet though.

As for the 5.8, the only cable I utilize is the headphone cable to the Rx, that's it. On the rare occasion I chat (which is like...almost never), yeah, I have to contend with the cable between RX and the DS4, but that's hardly what I'd call problematic.

I wish there was some form of bluetooth mini audio receiver to attach to the RX unit and one on the DS4. That way, no cable. Lol.

Like something that only communicates with it's other half. Of course, it would put some strain on the DS4 and Mixamp's inputs, so some duble sided tape or velcro would be a possible solution.

 

 

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Or if you could just use Bluetooth 4.0 headsets and the console would do the headphone surround processing for us natively with AMD TrueAudio.

But, with my monitor and short-range setup, I prefer my own wired headphones and amps.

 

 

Which is why it is weird that Sony hasn't implemented bluetooth for the PS4. You could actually do this on the PS3 already.

A bluetooth headset or mic as the mic, but chat audio and game audio can be selected to output through HDMI or optical (in this case, optical since it'll be Mixamp/DSS).

 

So yeah, wtf, Sony.

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UE900 was like an inverse V (what do you call that sound sig?).  Very nice, forward mids with great detail and presence in the bass and treble as well.  Insane isolation!  Honestly, these were the star of the show for me.  I really want a pair pretty bad now.  Thinking about selling my HP100 and grabbing one of these $210-$230 ones on eBay.

 

I really love that IEM and actually bought it again 3 months ago but the ******* problem with the cable still exists. It's really insane, there's no reliability. No wonder they got discontinued. 

 

If you want a pair that is better built with better, more articulated low-end and more air then get the FA-4E XB as that one is the "natural successor" or let's say upgrade to the UE 900. Without any cable issues. 

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Stillhart, it looks like the HE-400i would be the headphone for you, as apparently, the mids are quite forward. More than the 560.
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No need to apolagize to me, stillhart, LoL. We just have different tastes when we want a "fun" sound. I use wider bore tips to open the sound and tame the bass some on the H3. I wouldn't necessarily say it's V-shaped, either, as its mids are actually present, not recessed. The MOE would be more v-shaped whith its sucked out mids and spikey treble, while the H3 is u-shaped with mid bass and smoother (yet still detailed) highs.

Also, the UE900 can be found for cheaper than thoae prices on ebay. You may also want to look into the new version of the VSONIC GR07 "classic" which can be had for $99.
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I really love that IEM and actually bought it again 3 months ago but the ******* problem with the cable still exists. It's really insane, there's no reliability. No wonder they got discontinued. 

 

If you want a pair that is better built with better, more articulated low-end and more air then get the FA-4E XB as that one is the "natural successor" or let's say upgrade to the UE 900. Without any cable issues. 

 

There's apparently a new version of the UE900, I wonder if that fixes the issue?  You have me worried here because I will definitely not pay that kind of money for something with reliability issues... especially something like an IEM that I'm already worried about being fragile and loseable.  I'll check out that other one, thanks.

 

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Stillhart, it looks like the HE-400i would be the headphone for you, as apparently, the mids are quite forward. More than the 560.

 

Hopefully I'll get a chance to hear for myself one of these days!

 

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No need to apolagize to me, stillhart, LoL. We just have different tastes when we want a "fun" sound. I use wider bore tips to open the sound and tame the bass some on the H3. I wouldn't necessarily say it's V-shaped, either, as its mids are actually present, not recessed. The MOE would be more v-shaped whith its sucked out mids and spikey treble, while the H3 is u-shaped with mid bass and smoother (yet still detailed) highs.

Also, the UE900 can be found for cheaper than thoae prices on ebay. You may also want to look into the new version of the VSONIC GR07 "classic" which can be had for $99.

 

Apparently, we were using the tips he bought from you.  Thanks for the other recommendation, I'll look into that one too.

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^My dear good friend who recently traded tips with me? Nice! biggrin.gif

Crazy how you liked the MOE but not the H3, though. Now, that's a v-shaped headphone LoL.

Yeah, the UE900s is the recent version of the Logitechs. As for the GR07, make sure you do your research on that as well. There is the original GR07, GR07 MK2, and GR07 BE (all older versions, in order) which go for over $125. The newer version called the "classic" sells for $99 and comes in three colors. Those are the IEMs I had when I owned the Q701 and HP100... before I became a borderline bass head biggrin.gif
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^My dear good friend who recently traded tips with me? Nice! biggrin.gif

Crazy how you liked the MOE but not the H3, though. Now, that's a v-shaped headphone LoL.

Yeah, the UE900s is the recent version of the Logitechs. As for the GR07, make sure you do your research on that as well. There is the original GR07, GR07 MK2, and GR07 BE (all older versions, in order) which go for over $125. The newer version called the "classic" sells for $99 and comes in three colors. Those are the IEMs I had when I owned the Q701 and HP100... before I became a borderline bass head biggrin.gif

 

Well to be fair, I haven't listened to the MOE in a while.  My tastes may very well have become more defined since then.  I'll have to bug my wife to borrow hers for a while and see.  The thing I noticed most about the H3 was the muddy bass.  It wasn't so much that it was V-shaped that I didn't like, it was the quality of the bass.  It's similar to my first impression of the X1, actually.

 

Those Fischer Audio IEM's look like they'd fit the bill, but holy **** they're expensive!  I'll read up more on them and the GR07 (and the UE900) later today.  

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^Try joker's multi iem review thread, the discovery thread, and the Asian thread. Lucky for you, the IEM community is extremely diverse and active. Don't limit yourself to just those two options. Plenty out there to chose from, and many people to help you chose.

Have fun! wink.gif
Edited by Change is Good - 9/2/14 at 8:24am
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