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post #24736 of 27874
Kammo,
There are two amping challenges/things amps can help with headphones.

1.) low impedance headphones (like 32 ohm headphones made for iPods, most common today) benefit from a large pool of Current to draw from (at listening volumes) in order to prevent distortion and clipping problems (harsh highs and flabby bass, etc).

2.) High impedance headphones need more Voltage to be able to sound loud enough, but usually they have plenty of current at listening volumes.

A headphone's sensitivity and an amp's "clarity" and design also plays a role in "loudness" and quality, but to keep things simple and speaking in a general sense, a higher Ohm headphone will sound great as long as you can amp it loud enough (and your amp isn't really cheap/crappy/colored).

The K612 has 120 ohms impedance, but it was plenty loud from my Omni and my Turtle Beach DSS. 120 Ohms is higher than most, but it still benefits from a clean amp that also supplies plenty of current. If I lost all my headphones and I wanted a good price value that would be great for years, I'd buy a K612 too.


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If you're getting "headshot after headshot" and you never player Halo, the game must suck and not be anything like Halo 1,2 or 3.
There's what feels like a bit of a larger headshot hitbox than what you see, but unlike CoD I don't notice a sticky autoaim that will sometimes drag your aim if someone runs by. It is by no means easy to snipe headshots in the Crucible PvP arena, but in the co-op stuff it feels like you get what you try to aim for.

Some people will just dislike no matter what though. I can understand people disliking hit detection or graphical styles, I only think people are just being ignorant if they get mad at Bungie for "favoring Sony" and "abandoning the Xbox community that made them." Bungie was a Mac-only game dev, then they were bought by Microsoft and much of what's happened since then has been influenced by 3rd parties. I'm glad to see a new IP.
post #24737 of 27874
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My Shure 1540 pads came in today!
I've never replaced pads on headphones before, so that took a brief learning curve (especially since the 1540 pads don't fit as snug in the groove as the original HP100 pads), but overall I think they make a big improvement, at least in comfort!  My ears don't stick out much but I did feel that they were a bit close to the fabric covering the drivers at times.  The 1540 pads are definitely deeper than stock pads, so I no longer have this problem.  I've never worn velour pads before, so I can't compare to that, but I do feel these are slightly more "breathable" than the stock pleather while still giving a nice seal around my ears.

I haven't listened to enough music yet to make a judgment on sound, but I DO feel that they increase the "bass feel" noticeably, which isn't unwanted on my part.  When testing with some tracks like Massive Attack - Angel, the bass is definitely more present, while still being more distinct than my old Sony Pulse Elites (which apparently have "bloated bass"?).  However, I also noticed that the snare drums and hi-hat are not as pronounced as they were with stock pads.  I only notice this now because this was a huge difference from my old Sony Pulse Elites, but now the difference isn't as distinct.

I was worried that the pads made my music more muffled, so I put on some classical and electric strings (along with some Daft Punk).  I'm glad to say that strings and vocals sound as clear as before, at least to my ears.  

I'll definitely be keeping these pads on, and I appreciate the recommendation, Change!  Thanks everyone!

Glad you like the results! I'm guessing the pads fixed that 'sibilance' issue you noticed on some tracks? Yes, the HP100 gets a bit hot up top on some badly recorded tracks. With it's stock sub bass boost and linear mid bass, I can only imagine the wonders these pads are doing for them smily_headphones1.gif
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My Shure 1540 pads came in today!

I've never replaced pads on headphones before, so that took a brief learning curve (especially since the 1540 pads don't fit as snug in the groove as the original HP100 pads), but overall I think they make a big improvement, at least in comfort!  My ears don't stick out much but I did feel that they were a bit close to the fabric covering the drivers at times.  The 1540 pads are definitely deeper than stock pads, so I no longer have this problem.  I've never worn velour pads before, so I can't compare to that, but I do feel these are slightly more "breathable" than the stock pleather while still giving a nice seal around my ears.

 

I haven't listened to enough music yet to make a judgment on sound, but I DO feel that they increase the "bass feel" noticeably, which isn't unwanted on my part.  When testing with some tracks like Massive Attack - Angel, the bass is definitely more present, while still being more distinct than my old Sony Pulse Elites (which apparently have "bloated bass"?).  However, I also noticed that the snare drums and hi-hat are not as pronounced as they were with stock pads.  I only notice this now because this was a huge difference from my old Sony Pulse Elites, but now the difference isn't as distinct.

 

I was worried that the pads made my music more muffled, so I put on some classical and electric strings (along with some Daft Punk).  I'm glad to say that strings and vocals sound as clear as before, at least to my ears.  

 

I'll definitely be keeping these pads on, and I appreciate the recommendation, Change!  Thanks everyone!

 

So sonically, you'd say they increase bass and decrease highs and mids somewhat?  Have you noticed any difference in isolation levels (specifically in how well they isolate from outside noise coming in)?

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Thanks for the help Stillhart, cokker, Evshrug.


I went ahead and ordered the Omni today as it was leaps and bounds cheaper then anything else that i was considering and it has good reviews to boot!


Will come back and let you know how my first experience goes once they've both arrived.

 

Thanks again.

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So I got an unusual question for You guys. Is there a way to get rid of the suspension style headband on the AKG headphones? These thing are so damn uncomfortable to me, and I'd love to have Q701 or K612 but with a solid headband. Is it even possible?


Edited by Yethal - 7/21/14 at 6:27pm
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So I got an unusual question for You guys. Is there a reason to get rid of the suspension style headband on the AKg headphones? These thing are so damn uncomfortable to me And I'd love to have Q701 or K612 but with a solid headband. Is it even possible?

Someone just posted a mod in the Q701 thread that he said helped a lot with the headband pain.  I didn't quite follow what he did, but he said it was reversible so ??

post #24742 of 27874
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Someone just posted a mod in the Q701 thread that he said helped a lot with the headband pain.  I didn't quite follow what he did, but he said it was reversible so ??

Nah, what I'm looking for is removing the suspension headband and replacing it with a stiff one, with a cushion undernath

post #24743 of 27874

What would be better, Q701 or the K612 Pro. I will be using them for mostly competitive first person gaming and music. I have been using the Corsair Vengeance 1300 headset and well I thought I needed an upgrade because I have been having problems listening to footsteps and such with them. Music I listen to are dub step and the top hits. What are the Pros and Cons of these headphones besides that they might or need an amp.

At the moment the prices for both the Q701 and the K612 Pro are under $200 or that could be the usual price 

Any help? 

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Originally Posted by IBIubbleTea View Post

What would be better, Q701 or the K612 Pro. I will be using them for mostly competitive first person gaming and music. I have been using the Corsair Vengeance 1300 headset and well I thought I needed an upgrade because I have been having problems listening to footsteps and such with them. Music I listen to are dub step and the top hits. What are the Pros and Cons of these headphones besides that they might or need an amp.


At the moment the prices for both the Q701 and the K612 Pro are under $200 or that could be the usual price 


Any help? 

If you can stand the headband bumps, go for the Q701. Slightly easier to drive than the more synergy hungry K612.
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If you can stand the headband bumps, go for the Q701. Slightly easier to drive than the more synergy hungry K612.

Is there a advantage of the Q701 over the K612 besides the K612 being more power hungry?  

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My amazon order I have some akg 712 pros, neewer clip mic and astro 2013 mix amp. Going to hook it all up and play on 360/ps3. I will see what it sounds like first (obviously) but would like a recommendation for amp/DAC. Read on here about the Mont Blanc and the magni/ modi. I forget which is the amp or DAC, excuse my ignorance. Anyways what are your thoughts on what I should buy to really make these sound the best for gaming? Also so I "need" a DAC for these? If so I read I couldn't pair modi and magni both with the mix amp correct?
post #24747 of 27874
Can someone please confirm for me that a dss with a fiio e11 will be enough to drive a pair of dt990 250omhs?

Thanks in advance

These are only 150 bucks on Amazon right now seems like a really good deal? I'm coming from a pair of hd558's and I'm hoping these will provide a more fun and immersive atmosphere for single player gaming. Thoughts? Suggestions??
Edited by lenroot77 - 7/21/14 at 7:31pm
post #24748 of 27874
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post


Glad you like the results! I'm guessing the pads fixed that 'sibilance' issue you noticed on some tracks? Yes, the HP100 gets a bit hot up top on some badly recorded tracks. With it's stock sub bass boost and linear mid bass, I can only imagine the wonders these pads are doing for them smily_headphones1.gif

Yes, I don't hear any shrill high's anymore.  I'm really new at this, so I'm not sure if this is the sibilance head-fi users warn about, but certain high notes (like the Windows "ding" noise, for example) tended to be very shrill and hurt my ears.  However, with the new pads I don't notice this anymore!

 

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So sonically, you'd say they increase bass and decrease highs and mids somewhat?  Have you noticed any difference in isolation levels (specifically in how well they isolate from outside noise coming in)?

Yes, I think that's what I'm hearing.  Again, it's hard to tell if it's a complete win objectively, but I find the added bass and lessened highs more enjoyable.  Also, the pads are much more comfortable (mostly because my ears are not so close to the drivers).  I do feel like the seal is better, once again probably because the pads are "deeper" than the stock pads, and this helps with the isolation.  Honestly though, I felt the isolation was quite good with stock pads too so I don't know if it really makes too much of a difference.  My wife still routinely surprises me while I'm listening to music :)

post #24749 of 27874
Cheers Kammo!
I love my AKG, the fact that the K612's stand up well against the 700 series makes them a great bargain IMO.
post #24750 of 27874
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Originally Posted by bunnynamedfrank View Post

My amazon order I have some akg 712 pros, neewer clip mic and astro 2013 mix amp. Going to hook it all up and play on 360/ps3. I will see what it sounds like first (obviously) but would like a recommendation for amp/DAC. Read on here about the Mont Blanc and the magni/ modi. I forget which is the amp or DAC, excuse my ignorance. Anyways what are your thoughts on what I should buy to really make these sound the best for gaming? Also so I "need" a DAC for these? If so I read I couldn't pair modi and magni both with the mix amp correct?

 

You will likely want an amp if only to get the volume levels up.  If so, the E12 Mont Blanc and Magni are both recommended often around here.  One is a portable (needs to be charged) and one is a desktop (needs to be plugged in all the time).  Get whichever is more convenient for you, IMO.

 

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Originally Posted by lenroot77 View Post

Can someone please confirm for me that a dss with a fiio e11 will be enough to drive a pair of dt990 250omhs?

Thanks in advance

These are only 150 bucks on Amazon right now seems like a really good deal? I'm coming from a pair of hd558's and I'm hoping these will provide a more fun and immersive atmosphere for single player gaming. Thoughts? Suggestions??

 

I can't confirm that as I've never heard the Beyer's.  But I know my E11 isn't that beefy of an amp... I suspect you might want a little more juice.  Then again, Evs says his DT880 is just fine right out of the DSS so you'll probably be fine too.

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