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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

FYI, HE-500 is one step below a well-driven HE-6 [this is important because I never really felt like I truly achieved that status...]

The AVR should be better for the HE-500 than the Titanium but you'll need it for DSP so... maybe both :D

 

I use Dolby Headphone and although I have not tested other types of processing, I am a big DH fan and I really like the processing method they use. People find it a bit echoey, I do not - I find it scenery sensitive and pleasing [if perceived].

 

Yeah I am putting all my hopes into the 560... They better not let me down :D



Right.
Nah, the Titanium has a DSP.

Right on.

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I just found the Objective2 (O2) Headphone Amplifier in a Switzerland website at 132 euros for the Desktop version and 104 euros for the portable version. I think that it could be the best AMP for the given price I could get in France. What do you think ? I'm also wondering if the Desktop version is delivering a better sound quality ? if it is the same quality:  I prefer going with the Portable version, coz I don't see for what the desktop one could be better ?  or if there is a problem with the portable one ?

 

Please let me know if this AMP is OK ? and what should I get : Portable / Desktop ?

 

Many thanks.

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^How much is the FiiO E12 selling for there? No experience with the O2s, but the E12 has plenty juice to sufficiently drive the more synergy hungry AKGs. No included DAC, just a powerful standalone portable.

Another member already suggested this to you, as he is using it with his K702. I loved its power and convenience when I paired it with all my AKGs.
post #24154 of 26630

Hi,

 

The FiiO E12 is 129 euros, so more expensive than the portable O2, and almost the same as the desktop version. this is extracted from Bill-P review ( a head-fi memeber) "Review: Fiio E12 (comparison to C&C BH + JDS Labs O2 + JDS Labs C421)":

 

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I had some extensive comparison to O2, so the post is no longer between E12 and C&C BH. But because I don't want to clog the forum with yet another post of the very same topic, I'll edit this thread.

 

So, headphones that I plugged this combo into, with notes of which amp was the preferred one:

 

Audio Technica A900X - O2 (E12 adds too much warmth, and it makes the A900X sound congested, but note: A900X has a less open sound than my ES10...)

Audio Technica ES10 - E12 (more midrange body and bass texture with E12)

Beyerdynamic DT880 (250 Ohm?) - O2 (I personally prefer E12, but majority vote won out)

Beyerdynamic T5P (with custom cable and ? mods) - E12 (better bass control, and better midrange)

Ultrasone Edition 8 - E12

Hifiman HE-500 - O2

Audeze LCD-2 - O2

Sennheiser HD800 - O2

Grado GS1000 - O2

V-Moda M100 - E12

 

It seems like a close battle, but... the two amps are not even close.

 

O2 has a more even, balanced frequency response that doesn't favor any particular region. It's clean from top to bottom. Also soundstage is slightly bigger (width).

E12 has a warmer tilt to the midrange, and a bit more bass articulation (without bass boost), with less micro details. Also soundstage is slightly smaller (width).

 

Also I mistakenly thought E12 had more output power than O2. O2 has more output power than E12 in reality.

 

Personally, I'd still rate E12 higher than O2 because E12 fits well with my personal favorite (ES10). But if I had any of the other headphones, I'd go with O2 instead.

 

So... hope that helps. My only advice to potential owners of either of those amps is to look at what you're listening through and decide really hard whether you need more clarity, or more body to your sound.

 

Some more notes: O2 and E12 were plugged into either an ODAC, my MacBook, or my iPhone 5.

 

and even the other reviews tend to say that the O2 is excellent on all the range, but very neutral. sharp and clear detail amplified without introducing any particular signature.

 

Still, what's better: the desktop/Portable version ?

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Hi,

The FiiO E12 is 129 euros, so more expensive than the portable O2, and almost the same as the desktop version. this is extracted from Bill-P review ( a head-fi memeber) "Review: Fiio E12 (comparison to C&C BH + JDS Labs O2 + JDS Labs C421)":


and even the other reviews tend to say that the O2 is excellent on all the range, but very neutral. sharp and clear detail amplified without introducing any particular signature.

Still, what's better: the desktop/Portable version ?
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

^How much is the FiiO E12 selling for there? No experience with the O2s, but the E12 has plenty juice to sufficiently drive the more synergy hungry AKGs. No included DAC, just a powerful standalone portable.

Another member already suggested this to you, as he is using it with his K702. I loved its power and convenience when I paired it with all my AKGs.

Sorry but can't help there...
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No problem, If it was an easy question, I won't be stuck for 2 days on this forum. I was about to pick up the K702 this afternoon from a store hoping that after burning-in it is going to be as good as the Q one but i still hesitate between the K702 and Q701.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...!!! still hope to get some answers guys.

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No problem, If it was an easy question, I won't be stuck for 2 days on this forum. I was about to pick up the K702 this afternoon from a store hoping that after burning-in it is going to be as good as the Q one but i still hesitate between the K702 and Q701.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...!!! still hope to get some answers guys.


Read the guide from page one!

post #24158 of 26630

don't you think I did ? twice !!

 

Come on!  be serious.

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Originally Posted by Lotfi View Post

No problem, If it was an easy question, I won't be stuck for 2 days on this forum. I was about to pick up the K702 this afternoon from a store hoping that after burning-in it is going to be as good as the Q one but i still hesitate between the K702 and Q701.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...!!! still hope to get some answers guys.

I have the same trouble, sometimes, choosing between a red apple and a green apple
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don't you think I did ? twice !!

Come on!  be serious.
I am curious aboit the Shiit. Why don't you order directly on their site. The you have something to tell us as a payback for our nice help.....lol. But honestly, the E12 is a mighty amp for his price and Fiio is the best Chinese company that I know.
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holy Schiit !!! I was trying to make a simulation of the price from the US on the Schiit website, because on amazon it was costing me 170 Euros including the custom service fees, and It just validated the order !!! I was just testing !!!  looks like it is 130$ , which should be around 100 euros . but I hope they are not going to ask me for taxes !

 

So now, I ordered the Schiit magni by mistake !


Edited by Lotfi - 6/17/14 at 8:00am
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holy Schiit !!! I was trying to make a simulation of the price from the US on the Schiit website, because on amazon it was costing me 170 Euros including the custom service taxe, and It just validated the order !!! I was just testing !!!  looks like it is 130$ , which should be around 100 euros . but I hope they are not going to ask me for taxes !

 

So now, I ordered the Schiit magni by mistake !


Come on be serious you must be mistaken, did you read the schiit website terms and conditions from page one twice?

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which part exactly are you talking about ?

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Come on be serious you must be mistaken, did you read the schiit website terms and conditions from page one twice?


I was thinking about the part saying : "don't be a diick" hahaha:

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Originally Posted by Lotfi View Post
 

No problem, If it was an easy question, I won't be stuck for 2 days on this forum. I was about to pick up the K702 this afternoon from a store hoping that after burning-in it is going to be as good as the Q one but i still hesitate between the K702 and Q701.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...!!! still hope to get some answers guys.

You're putting too much thought into it.  Like Change said, you're comparing a green apple to a red apple.  They're both apples, they both taste great, and unless you bite into them one after the other, you'll never notice the difference in flavor.  Just get whichever is cheaper and move on with your life!  lol

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