Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Video Games Discussion › Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (Update: 10/15/2014: Beyerdynamic T51i Added)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (Update: 10/15/2014: Beyerdynamic T51i Added) - Page 1539

post #23071 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booby Trap View Post
 

I don't have a mixamp. I'm wondering how good the headphone will sound if I just connect it directly to my laptop's 3.5mm jack. Sorry if I wasn't being clear. >.>

 

If they're good with the Clip+ I'm guessing they should work well with a laptop?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Booby Trap View Post
 

I don't have a mixamp. I'm wondering how good the headphone will sound if I just connect it directly to my laptop's 3.5mm jack. Sorry if I wasn't being clear. >.>

 

If they're good with the Clip+ I'm guessing they should work well with a laptop?

No that's not true. What kind of soundcard does the laptop have?

Clip is first and foremost a portable player and the parts correspond that, while the laptop's SQ properties are usually a lot worse than any decent music player [that's clip and above]

post #23072 of 28008

I bought a red LE M50 for around 77 Euros to lay down in bed and bring to work and in the few hours I had with it I think it's a pretty good headphone for that price. It's noticably sub bass emphasized and goes pretty low. At 20hz the rolloff was most noticable, but 30Hz was rather easily accomplished. I didn't find any sibilance yet that would remind me of a T90, DT880, Pro 900 (:evil:), no annoyances at all. Maybe it's a revision thing. The subbass elevation additionally masks the highs so this headphone goes into smooth/forgiving terrority and reminds me of a small Ultrasone Signature DJ (and also how the DJ shouldn't cost more than 399 Dollars). Everything's rather smooth and polite, no aggression really. It's clean (as in no annoying resonance or harshness/multiple peaky but not the best in transparency. 

 

I found the spaciousness to be decent with SBX (67%) and BF4 and this being a really closed phone, haven't played anything else yet. The subbass during explosions in the near and far distance surely helped the immersion. However it shouldn't be a headphone for those that want gaming as the first priority - for that price however I only know the CAL. For 50€ the MA 900 can be bought but I think the M50 build leaves less room for worries about practically taking them everywhere. 

post #23073 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

 

No that's not true. What kind of soundcard does the laptop have?

Clip is first and foremost a portable player and the parts correspond that, while the laptop's SQ properties are usually a lot worse than any decent music player [that's clip and above]

 

Err I'm not really sure. When I go to device manager to check I see 3 things listed under audio control:

 

- IDT High Definition Audio CODEC

- NVIDIA High Definition Audio

- NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)

 

Not really sure which one is the sound card, if it's one of them at all.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 


I had my Q701 for a month or two with no amp and was perfectly happy with it.  Then I got an amp and realized what everybody was talking about.  It's not about volume.  The amp changes the sound for the better...I don't understand the science behind it, but my ears were used to the sound without the amp and could hear the difference with the amp. 

 

Is it necessary?  No, absolutely not.  However, when you read about how good the headphones are, people are reviewing them with an amp.  If you aren't using an amp, you won't hear them to their full potential.  If you're not hearing them to their full potential, you're kind of wasting money (IMHO). 

 

Regarding the amp sound signature, I believe Fiio's tend to run on the warmer side, as well as the Schiit Vali.  The Magni and the O2 tend to be more "analytical" and "cold".  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong...

I see. Thanks for this post. If it really makes a difference then I'll get an amp, if not with the headphone then later down the road.

 

Now to know which amp to get. :P

The Fiio and Vali do seem pretty good.


Edited by Booby Trap - 4/19/14 at 12:06pm
post #23074 of 28008

PC, now im using a laptop, but later i will buy a desktop :)

post #23075 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post

If you're getting a $400 headphone, I highly recommend you also get the equipment that'll make it sound like it should.  That means definitely getting an amp.  If you're gaming from your PC, a soundcard is always a good idea.  The one you mentioned gets solid reviews around here.  However, if you're getting an amp as well, you don't need to spend much on a sound card as you'll just be using it for DSP and DAC.  I'd recommend a Sound Blaster Z or Omni (whichever is cheaper when you decide to buy).
Thanks for the reply stillhart.
Which amp should I get? Im new to the scene. Whats dsp and dac?
post #23076 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecalculator View Post

Thanks for the reply stillhart.
Which amp should I get? Im new to the scene. Whats dsp and dac?

 

A DSP is a Digital Sound Processor. It's what converts 5.1 signals such as Dolby and THX to a simulated surround sound through a stereo output. It effectively gives you surround sound out of a pair of stereo headphones and it's what we primarily use in this thread. A DAC is a Digital to Analog Converter. These are what convert digital signal to analog and allow you to hear the sound through headphones or speakers. Many times these two are part of the same device, but it's possible to have them separated.

 

*EDIT* I are supremus!


Edited by AxelCloris - 4/19/14 at 6:38pm
post #23077 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post
 

 

A DSP is a Digital Sound Processor

I always thought it meant digital signal processing as in, a DSP unit. I've also heard it referred to as digital signal processor, but always thought people were just abbreviating for convenience. Maybe I'm wrong (would make sense as I've had a few drinks).

post #23078 of 28008
Thread Starter 
Always heard it as sound.
post #23079 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Always heard it as sound.

Not arguing, just saying, that's what I always thought it meant.

post #23080 of 28008
Thread Starter 
I wasn't arguing either, lol.

You could be right. Digital signal processing is a real term.

Digital sound processing may be something made up more recently. It's been used online, but dsp itself is actual more commonly know as signal processing.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/19/14 at 8:05pm
post #23081 of 28008

I think the point is that the way I used it, it means it's processing the sound/signal from 5.1 into stereo with virtual surround.

post #23082 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I wasn't arguing either, lol.

You could be right. Digital signal processing is a real term.

Digital sound processing may be something made up more recently. It's been used online, but dsp itself is actual more commonly know as signal processing.

Did I come off as being defensive? Didn't mean to :)

 

I think I read it somewhere. I retained the info but not where I learned it. I guess it's a necessity, otherwise I'd only be able to learn half as much and the other half of my knowledge would be where I learned that knowledge, lol.

post #23083 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecalculator View Post

Thanks for the reply stillhart.
Which amp should I get? Im new to the scene. Whats dsp and dac?

DSP = Digital Signal Processor, something that processes the surround sound into a stereo mix for headphones that still sounds like it comes from surround directions.

DAC = Digital to Analogue Converter, takes turns digital 1's & 0's into the electric pulses that make headphones or speakers work. All digital systems (CD's, DVD's, games, mp3's, etc) require a DAC, nicer DACs resolve finer details and nuance.

Amp = Amplifier, drives analogue pulses to the appropriate strength and gain (volume) for headphones and speakers, also allows adjustment of volume. Nicer ones aren't primarily about "louder," they are for better control to represent tones more accurately.

Best place to ask about "which amp" would be in the support & review threads about the headphone you have/want. There have also been some good recommendations for amps on this page and the previous page of this thread.
post #23084 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post




DSP = Digital Signal Processor, something that processes the surround sound into a stereo mix for headphones that still sounds like it comes from surround directions.

DAC = Digital to Analogue Converter, takes turns digital 1's & 0's into the electric pulses that make headphones or speakers work. All digital systems (CD's, DVD's, games, mp3's, etc) require a DAC, nicer DACs resolve finer details and nuance.

Amp = Amplifier, drives analogue pulses to the appropriate strength and gain (volume) for headphones and speakers, also allows adjustment of volume. Nicer ones aren't primarily about "louder," they are for better control to represent tones more accurately.

Best place to ask about "which amp" would be in the support & review threads about the headphone you have/want. There have also been some good recommendations for amps on this page and the previous page of this thread.

oh_god_what_have_i_done____by_rober_raik-d4cw1lu.png

post #23085 of 28008
Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

A DSP is a...

*EDIT* I are supremus!
Derp, you beat me to it by a few hours (didn't refresh the page after my 15 min break, now I'm off work). I'm gonna leave my version up, cuz I like my wording better :P

And grats on supremacy! Now everyone's going to think a sound engineer like you is going to be reputable as me! ph34r.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Napalmhardcore View Post

... Maybe I'm wrong (would make sense as I've had a few drinks).
You suspect it's wrong, but it feels so right! Join me as I grab a hard cider and game some CoD streamed from PS4, it'll be fun!

Just search twitch "PS4 for Head-Fi, with Evshrug", or just search "Evshrug," you'll see it.
Edited by Evshrug - 4/19/14 at 8:49pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Games Discussion
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Video Games Discussion › Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (Update: 10/15/2014: Beyerdynamic T51i Added)