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post #22921 of 26626
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Cool thing I discovered about the Recon3D USB today... Not only does it natively support PS4 (USB headset support, so you get game sound from optical and chat audio and mic through USB), but also it functions as a MIC amp...

So, I can plug in my unpowered lapel mic, and with a switch I can select low/medium/high gain. So, I can clip my mic to my shirt and know people can hear me, or I can turn it down if I'm not talking much, I can turn it all the way up and talk in a whisper and people will hear, and I can power unidirectional mics to cut down on fan or LAN noise.


Any luck on the ps4 monitor? I need one pretty soon..don't want one that bleaches things out.. the LG monitor in the video looks good!

post #22922 of 26626
Two things:
1.) You really can't tell if a monitor is good or not by looking at it through the eyes of a camera, YouTube compression, and then your current model, except...
2.) that LG may have ghosting issues, at 0:07 seconds the camera swooshes around the player and it blurs during this fast action... but that could just be YouTube compression, can't tell.

I added info about the Asus in an edit to my last post. It worked beautifully last night plugged into my PS4, great color no ghosting issues, really very sharp and made 1080p look even better, it has a thin bezel which I like and think will be a boon in the future when I get a twin VESA mount.
post #22923 of 26626

Hi guys. I decided to join this community to ask for expert advice. I bought the Sennheiser PC 350 SE to use with my PC and gaming consoles. For the PC I have the ASUS Maximus V Formula motherboard which has SupremeFX IV dedicated audio. Specs follow:

 

SupremeFX IV, built-in 7.1 Channel High Definition
Audo CODEC
 
High fidelity headphone amplifier
Texas Instruments (120dB SNR, -117dB THD+N at VCC+-12V,
RL=600 Ω, f=1KHz)
 
SupremeFX Shielding™ Technology
 
ELNA Premium Audio Capacitors:
1500 uF Audio Power Capacitor
Output Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-Weighted): 110dB
Output THD+N at 1KHz: 95dB
Supports jack-detection, multi-streaming, front panel jack-retasking
Blu-ray audio layer content protection
Optical S/PDIF input and output ports at back panel
 
Audio Features:
DTS Ultra PC II
DTS Connect
 
I am very happy with how the headsets sound. At 25% volume, the bass was strong and the rest of the audio was nice. I tested with some music and with Battlefield 4 audio. Amazing I had no idea Battlefield could be that much better. Now here is where the problem starts:
 
I could get the ThunderFX
 
Performance and Chipset:
Output Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-Weighted): 114dB
Digital-to-Analog Converter: 120dB SNR, 107dB THD+N (Max. 192kHz/ 24-bit)
C-Media 6631 audio processor (Max. 192kHz/ 24bit)
Built-in high fidelity headphone amplifier
Up to 300 ohms headphone impedance support
Special Features:
Multi-platform Support: PC, Xbox 360, PS3
Master/ voice/ game volume control independently (PS3, Xbox 360)
Built-in ENC (Environmental Noise Cancellation) Technology
GamEQ: 3 preset EQ profiles with graphical audio effect tuning hints
Xear™ Surround Headphone
Xear™ SingFX
FlexBass™, Smart Volume Normalize™
DS3D GX 1.0, OpenAL
I/O Ports:
2x RCA audio input
1x USB 2.0 connector
1x 3.5mm headphone jack
1x 3.5mm microphone jack
1x 2.5mm microphone jack for Xbox 360 voice input
Dimensions:
191 x 137.5 x 37mm (LxWxH)
 
BUT, the only way to get one would be to call a supervisor at ASUS and MAYBE they will give me one, since it is not sold separately (it's price should be around 100$). OR, I can buy something else, DSS, MixAmp or something else. I am not looking at spending a fortune, max 150$ and it needs to be compatible with both Xbox 360 and PS3 chat and audio (Xbox One and ps4 would be a bonus).
 
So what to get? From what I've seen, Mixamp pro 2013 sucks for the mic volume (unless they fixed that with a firmware update), Mixamp pro 2011 is very hard to find in Canada, and I do not want the wireless one. DSS VS DSS2  VS MixAmp I have no idea of the difference.
 
Suggestions? 
post #22924 of 26626
Well IBB,
I don't know much beyond basics about computer audio... Is that Thunder FX part of a motherboard, or is an add-on (normally bundled with something else)?

Anyway, the motherboard you have is basically equivalent to the audio quality of a Mixamp, except it doesn't have processing for headphone surround.

The best console + PC audio processor/soundcard I've found so far is Creative's Recon3D USB. It can actually decode surround audio from consoles, and make headphone surround for that, while also being an "external soundcard" when connected to a PC via USB.

My gigabyte motherboard is able to power USB even while I have the PC shutdown, so I could just leave it plugged into console and PC at the same time and switch inputs with a side switch. Sometimes I needed to "reboot" the Recon3D though.

Supports PS3 & PS4 chat through USB too, though you can also plug controller chat audio into the Recon3D's extension cable (Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS4).
post #22925 of 26626

Well I can't upload images or post links..... ThunderFX is an external audio card/amplifier and you can connect the xbox 360 and ps3 to it as well.

 

ThunderFX

Versatile Gaming Audio for PC&Consoles
The ThunderFX gives gamers more than just another PC soundcard; this versatile device provides premium gaming audio and connectivity for your favorite PC headphones on any PC, laptop or console. Get a competitive advantage from Environmental Noise Cancellation (ENC) technology and GamEQ sound profiles with clear visual identifiers, while the 300 ohm headphone amplification and premium Nichicon FG Series capacitors for pure, powerful audio. The ThunderFX is a supreme sound accessory that your console gaming, LAN gaming and entertainment enjoyment requires.

post #22926 of 26626

ThunderFX is a external sound card/amplifier. You can connect the xbox 360 as well as a ps3. That Recon thing you posted costs 150$ in Canada without taxes lol what a rip-off.

post #22927 of 26626
I am not sure you want something that has built in noise cancelation. Unless you can switch it off wink.gif
On paper, the device seems good.
Depends if you like the provided headphone surround technology.
post #22928 of 26626

Well if I can't get the ThunderFX, what alternative would be best?

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IBe, you may want to site that ThunderFX source to your post.
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http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_V_FORMULATHUNDERFX/

post #22931 of 26626
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

IBe, you may want to site that ThunderFX source to your post.


It won't let me put links. It's on the Asus site, search for Maximus V Formula/ThunderFX combo

post #22932 of 26626
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Originally Posted by IBeBallin View Post

ThunderFX is a external sound card/amplifier. You can connect the xbox 360 as well as a ps3. That Recon thing you posted costs 150$ in Canada without taxes lol what a rip-off.

That thunderFX looks interesting to me, but this is the first time I'm hearing about it. We here have been hoping for better devices, but the recon3D is about par price for similar devices in the US.
http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-recon3d

I would make sure that the thunderFX can process headphone surround (like directional, not just "a feeling of space"), and make doubly sure it can decode Dolby Digital Live 5.1 audio from an optical input (consoles). Usually soundcards CANNOT decode a "true" 5.1 or 7.1 surround signal from a console (the Recon3D USB was an exception) because of licensing and copyright protection issues.

Just be sure what you're getting before dropping the Canadian Dollars on it.


Edit: the Thunder FX only has analogue (and USB) audio inputs, so it could not process surround from a console (just "enhanced" surround, not the same thing as Dolby Headphone or THX TrueStudio Pro).
Edited by Evshrug - 4/15/14 at 3:32pm
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post #22934 of 26626
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


That thunderFX looks interesting to me, but this is the first time I'm hearing about it. We here have been hoping for better devices, but the recon3D is about par price for similar devices in the US.

I would make sure that the thunderFX can process headphone surround (like directional, not just "a feeling of space"), and make doubly sure it can decode Dolby Digital Live 5.1 audio from an optical input (consoles). Usually soundcards CANNOT decode a "true" 5.1 or 7.1 surround signal from a console (the Recon3D USB was an exception) because of licensing and copyright protection issues.

Just be sure what you're getting before dropping the Canadian Dollars on it.


Edit: the Thunder FX only has analogue (and USB) audio inputs, so it could not process surround from a console (just "enhanced" surround, not the same thing as Dolby Headphone or THX TrueStudio Pro).


You are using alien language to me :tongue_smile:. All I understood is 5.1 and 7.1. I know the word analog but I have no idea how it works. You mean that the consoles have 5.1 audio? Does that not depend on the game and how the audio was coded? Or is all audio for all games on consoles the same? And how is that helping me since my headphones are stereo? Would that not be "fake" 5.1 or 7.1 from the consoles through my headset?

 

So forget the ThunderFX and get the Recon usb thingy? How does it compare to the 3 mixamp versions and the 2 dss?

post #22935 of 26626
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Originally Posted by Fegefeuer View Post
 

Eeeewwwww, forget about the ThunderFX.

 

http://rog.asus.com/131532012/maximus-motherboards/what-is-the-thunderfx/

:D so forget the ThunderFX and get either the Recon usb, one of the 2 dss or one of the 3 mixamp?

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