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so you hate change. got it. 

He hates me?!?

*tear*

:P
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i am not sure if you are talking about me.... if you are I didnt mean anything was wrong with YOU, but rather something in the string of sound. Meaning it could the game, your cans, or yes it COULD be you, that you are not used to the DD sound, which is EXACTLY what Mad Lust said (you may just not be used to the DD sound). Mad Lust said basically the exact same thing I was trying to say, but he explained it much better and of course he carries more weight around here.  then again you may be talking about someone else. 

 

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote as "you don't agree with me so your ears are wrong".  I respect anyone's views and opinions regardless.  I have been using it constantly since and I am beginning to appreciate it.  Thing is though, like with a lot of things, the longer you use it the more 'normal' it will seem to you, this doesn't equate to better.

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Do you have a mix amp of any kind or plan or buying any. 

I have astro mixamp and swear buy it. To be  100% honest with you, what brought me to head-fi in the first place and into audiophile equipment is a blog entry someone wrote saying how awesome the astro mixamp is, but ANY 150$ pair of head phone is better than the Astro A40s. That started me down a dark hole (don't get me started. just spent 1k in less than 2 months and don't regret a ******* dime of it!) 

 

I am just curious. You found this particular forum thread. Did you not read it? Mad Lust has a billion reviews and recommendations in the initial thread. Based on his thoughts, my tastes, and budget, I narrowed it down to 4 cans and just bought the x1s. What are you looking for and at what cost? 

I really wanted the DT 990s but a lot of people talked me out of them because of the their high treble spike which really turned me off. The X1s were 40 bucks more but are 10000 times sexier and are supposed to have a much better frequency response across the board and have some of the best bass, sub 300 cans, for open back (please correct me if I am wrong. Also I have not opened my x1s yet, I am waiting until I get back to Japan next week) 

 

I am planing to buy one mixamp pro 2013. And first i looked at many headsets but everyone just had ****ty mics so i was thinking about buying headphones and then a mic like blue yeti or something like a boom mic instead. I Checked alot of forums and then i found this. And i did read most of the reviews numerous times and checked the prices in my country and the ones i listed are around the same price and since i want the best for the money i asked about it.

 

But i have narrowed it down to the MA900's or the Fidelio X1 now. The Fidelio's look more sturdy but seems a little small, but that can be fixed i read, so that might not be a problem. But how are they compared to the MA900's for "sound whoring", is there a big difference?

 

I have heard that the Mixamp pro has a pro mode for FPS games. How much better will it make them for sound whoring? If anyone has tried that.

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Pro mode basically just removes all the bass. That would do the X1 wonders, and even the MA900 can benefit from bass removal if you want to soundwhore that much. Personally, I don't think removing the bass is really necessary for either headphone, as I can hear everything with both, and enjoy the sound. Pro mode sucks the life out of the headphones, IMHO. Unless you're in some tournament setting, I would just leave the mixamp Pro on standard or something.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/7/14 at 3:24am
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Bad day at the office Nameless? :smile:

 

1. Yes.... having one cable is far far better than two cables hanging off your skull.

 

2. The X1 does bass when it has to, otherwise it's pretty neutral. PC users can EQ out any bass (easier to EQ out something than to add it). So maybe it's not ultra perfect for console sound whoring, but most users would, I bet you a ****onne, love the sound of it over a bassless headphone: it's still a superb all rounder.

 

3. Grab yourself a pair.

 

I wouldn't say a bad day, no. Sorry if I sounded too harsh.

 

I'm just a natural skeptic, especially on a place like Head-Fi where things regularly get hyped to the moon, people have different tastes, and we're frequently talking $200+ headphones whose purchases are not made lightly. On top of that, I've hardly evaluated every single headphone on the planet, so it's difficult to say whether one set is truly better or worse than another, especially given the subjectivity. I mean, I certainly expected people to be skeptical of my statements when recommending vintage Stax Lambda systems for gaming; I would have myself, if I never got to try a few sets!

 

Speaking of subjectivity, the first thing you mentioned about the X1 was the bass, one of its strengths by most people's accounts, then followed it up with "bassless". Here's my question: what constitutes "bassless"? I'd say the AD700 definitely qualifies, but not many others above the $100 mark do. I found all those "Stax have no bass!" statements unwarranted, even for the bright Lambda lineup. I've heard similar things about the HD800 as well, for that matter.

 

But other people might not be satisfied with anything less than a Pro 900, LCD-2 or D7000, for all I know.

 

I do agree that the less cables dangling around, the better, especially if it means I don't have to worry about the cables hitting each other and making noise. It's actually the reason why I can't bring myself to part with the MMX 300; the mic that's built-in is just too good for me to go back to that old desk mic, and the headphone portion (DT770-derived) is capable enough for competitive and cinematic gaming alike. Music needs a boost in the mids to truly shine for me, but it doesn't sound totally awful to the point where I really want to reach for another headphone.

 

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Nameless, have you thought about giving the K612 a try?

 

I have. Several times, in no small part due to that MA900 vs. K612 review.

 

But again, I don't have the money to buy and review the K612, just as I don't have the money to buy and review the X1.

 

I'd totally take up any audition offers, though; for me, Head-Fi is about broadening perspective. It's just that that's kind of hard to do in the world of audiophilia without spending some serious coin, and I must be lucky to ever have had the luxury of listening to those Stax setups and MLE's HE-400 to begin with.

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Amazon has the KSC75 for $9.99 today. Had to reacquire it.

So if anyone has been ever interested in trying them... now is the time.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Pro mode basically just removes all the bass. That would do the X1 wonders, and even the MA900 can benefit from bass removal if you want to soundwhore that much. Personally, I don't think removing the bass is really necessary for either headphone, as I can hear everything with both, and enjoy the sound. Pro mode sucks the life out of the headphones, IMHO. Unless you're in some tournament setting, I would just leave the mixamp Pro on standard or something.

 

Thanks, will buy the Fidelio X1's then since they are that good even without the pro mode setting and look more sturdy. I only got one problem with the cable. The one you listed doesnt excist here and i dont know really what to look for since they dont write what ohm the cables have. And i dont want to import.


Edited by Kriss92 - 3/7/14 at 4:06am
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I use Pro Mode on my X1 when playing Tomb Raider because I hit this button a lot that does a really bassy sound (instinct button) and it gets a bit tiresome.

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Wow, as if on cue... an hour after hitting the buy button on the KSC75, my modded PX100-II shorted out on the right side... talk about timing. rolleyes.gif
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bandridge-Premium-SAL3302-Stereo-Meters/dp/B000Y2RD1S/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394200989&sr=1-1&keywords=bandridge+premium+3.5+stereo

 

Are these better or worse for the Fidelio X1's?

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I have no idea.  I was advised to get a different one as well despite the fact I probably would have found absolutely sod all difference between the original and the one I got (Fisual S-Flex)

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@Mad Lust Envy, I can confirm that the M-Audio Q40 works fully with the V-Moda BoomPro. My only (small) gripe is that at times the mic is just a little -too- sensitive in terms of picking up background noise and that's without any boost options being enabled.

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As much as I like the bass of the X1's, I still prefer my Annies over them. Both in comfort and overall sound. The bass on the Annies isn't exactly weak either, it just doesn't hit as hard as the X1's do.

 

It would be nice if there was a way to get a microphone similar to how the vmoda is for any AKG headphone really. I know AKG makes microphones that will fit the connector but they are like 300+ dollars for them, that's just way to expensive for a mic hah.

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I would love to watch IMAX without 3D, but guess what? You basically can't now. Stupid, stupid 3D.

 

I dislike 3D movies very much. You might enjoy these 2D glasses like I do. Great for when your friends all want to see 3D and you'd rather be able to focus on the whole picture rather than where the studio wants you to focus. They make a separate pair for IMAX and RealD, so you might end up having two pair if your friends are like mine and adore 3D.

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Amazon has the KSC75 for $9.99 today. Had to reacquire it.

So if anyone has been ever interested in trying them... now is the time.

Ordered! Thanks!

 

What will I use these for again???  :)

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