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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Adding a mic to the X1 is very simple compared to other headphones. Pick up the V-Moda BoomPro or RadioShack Auvio and you have an inline boom mic. The radio shack one is less expensive, but I can't speak to its quality. The BoomPro is excellent; I absolutely love mine.
Can I replace the stock X1 cable with the BoomPro???
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

Can I replace the stock X1 cable with the BoomPro???

I purchased a boom pro for my X1 and was just delivered today. Can't wait to try it when I get home. From what I read though, it works well with the X1.
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Good dacs do make the soundstage bigger, it's not just headphones and amps/headphone amps speakers that make the soundstage bigger..it's just a shame that they don't carry through a surround sound signal!

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Originally Posted by 1llest View Post


Yeah it looks like something is off but I dont know what it is! Everything works fine when just using the mixamp but when I add the m-stage after the mixamp then everything changes.

xbox 360 > astro mixamp 2013 edition.

Are you using the latest mixamp?

Thanks for the switch recommendation. Will definitely give that one a try.
Will try to do more troubleshooting when I get back home from work. Thanks.

 

I don't have the 2013 mixamp.  I use my M-stage with the Mixamp 5.8 and the Ear Force DSS v1, and it works great with both of them.

 

Try testing your M-stage on your computer by listening to some binaural audio/virtual surround sound videos with it and then compare it to your soundcard/motherboard audio HP jack or a USB DAC.  See if adding the M-stage still screws up the positioning with compared to the un-amped audio.

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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post


Can I replace the stock X1 cable with the BoomPro???

 

Absolutely. The stock cable is detachable on the X1, so you can use pretty much any cable you want.

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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Absolutely. The stock cable is detachable on the X1, so you can use pretty much any cable you want.
Damn. Just when I was thinking about buying the cheaper CAL 2 or the PLYR1.......

Has MLE commented on the new CAL 2? I would also like a pair of closed headphones. CAL 2 and the DT770 might fit the bill.
Edited by DADDYDC650 - 1/6/14 at 2:10pm
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Makes me wanna rebuy the X1 and Boompro. I grow tired of the cable clutter that is the the clip on mic + headphones. The DX clip on cable is VERY easy to tangle too. GAH. Why, oh why couldn't my ears do well with some mid bass, god?

After more use with the 1840 with gaming, I went back to my MA900 (since the 1840 isn't efficient enough when using voice chat, and I was playing with my friend), the MA900 truly showcases how bassy it can actually get. I called in several helicopters in CoD Ghosts's multiplayer, and boy... DAT RUMBLE.


Also, using the 1840 pads on the MA900 later on reinforced my belief that the MA900's drivers are just repurposed XB1000 drivers, with mitigated bass due to design differences everywhere else. Now that's just an assumption, but the MA900 even with fully breathable velour like the 1840's pads is super potent in bass, even with that cavity.


I read from Innerfidelity that the CAL2 is inferior to the CAL. Stated by Tyll himself. I trust his judgement.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/6/14 at 2:17pm
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Okay, new input desired: I've now read that it's possible to power the DT990 Pro 80s acceptably with a Xonar DG, leaving me the option to upgrade the amp later. The other options are the AD700[x] and AKG K612, which I haven't seen a great deal about in terms of competitive FPS use. Can anyone here comment on their quality for that as opposed to the Beyer/ATs?

 

Cheers

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I assume you meant 770 pro 80s. The Pro 80s are efficient (as far as the 770/880/990 goes, it's the most efficient, even moreso than the 32ohm), but they STILL desire proper amping. The DG seems to be an internal soundcard version of the U3, which I can easily tell you is a VERY weak source. I don't recommend it on anything but the most sensitive of headphones. It has a crappy internal amp.
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Original CAL better than the CAL 2? Sucks but I guess that's a good thing for me since the CAL is going for $79.99 right now @ Amazon.

 

Seems like I'm down to either X1 or the original CAL then. I'm guessing the X1 has superior sound but the CAL still sounds good and are also closed cans which are a plus for me when I game at night. Hmmm....

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The X1 is a noticeable step above the CAL, but for the price range, not much that compares to the CAL.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The X1 is a noticeable step above the CAL, but for the price range, not much that compares to the CAL.

Would I need an amp for the CAL or X1? I have the ZXR sound card for my PC so I'm good there. I don't have another amp to use for my PS4/XB1 though. I only have the original DSS.

 

Last question. would you recommend the PLYR1 over the CAL or X1 for console gaming at all? I like that they are wireless.

 

Just noticed the original CAL just dropped to $75 on Amazon.


Edited by DADDYDC650 - 1/6/14 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I assume you meant 770 pro 80s. The Pro 80s are efficient (as far as the 770/880/990 goes, it's the most efficient, even moreso than the 32ohm), but they STILL desire proper amping. The DG seems to be an internal soundcard version of the U3, which I can easily tell you is a VERY weak source. I don't recommend it on anything but the most sensitive of headphones. It has a crappy internal amp.

 

Wow, this reply made me realise that this listing was wrong. I was wondering why I couldn't find any comparisons of the 80 ohm model with the others :v

 

So, K612 or AD700[x] it is. Do you have any experience/know anyone I might pester for information about K612s for comp?

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Both the X1 and CAL are efficient headphones, the CAL even more so. I suggest at least a portable amp for both, though for gaming purposes, it's not completely necessary. I dunno about the ZXR's output impedance which may alter the balance of the headphones negatively. may not be an issue overall, but it's possible. If you're gonna spend that much for an X1, don't do it a disservice by attaching it to underwhelming sources. The CAL is a safe bet for minimal amping, output impedance mismatch aside.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Both the X1 and CAL are efficient headphones, the CAL even more so. I suggest at least a portable amp for both, though for gaming purposes, it's not completely necessary. I dunno about the ZXR's output impedance which may alter the balance of the headphones negatively. may not be an issue overall, but it's possible. If you're gonna spend that much for an X1, don't do it a disservice by attaching it to underwhelming sources. The CAL is a safe bet for minimal amping, output impedance mismatch aside.

I just ordered the CAL. I'll look into buying the X1 at a later when when I can afford a proper amp.

 

I don't think you saw my last question in regards to the PLYR1. Would you recommend that over the CAL for console gaming or should I stick with the cheaper CAL?

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