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post #19666 of 27124
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Originally Posted by TomatoTen View Post
 

What do you mean by NEW X1s?

 

He's just emphasizing that it is not a used price.

 

Wow I am late to the party. Change beat me to it buy quite a while.

post #19667 of 27124

Yeah.  I was emphasizing that you're getting a brand new pair for 250. 

 

Normally new ones are 300 and used ones go for ~250, so it's a good price for a new pair.

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Is the beyerdynamic dt 990 250 ohm can the one I need? I have a mixamp and creative sound blaster z and sennheiser hd 598. Basically listen to dubstep (skrillex, deadmau), or Metalica type stuff. Either game on 360 or PC. Not really looking for the greatest soundwhoring can as I already have the 598s I just want something alot of fun that can also do double duty for gaming. Im thinking x1, sony ma 900, but just feel gravitated to the dt 990, especialy for ~150$. Anyone got any better ideas or opinions?

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Thread Starter 
+1 for the Koss clip ons.

As always, I recommend buying both the Sportapro ($20), and KSC75 ($10-15). You snap off the Sportapro drivers, and use them with the KSC75 clips. Instant KSC35 (with comfier clips), all for no more than $35. Or just get the KSC75 first and see how that works out for you. If you want more warmth, the Sportapro will have that.

Just remember, you MUST bend the KSC75 clips inward, as out of the box, they are way too separated from the drivers, making you lose a lot of the bass and making the drivers overly bright. the more the drivers press towards your ear, the better.

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

The Koss clip ons have been well known around here for those who game on the go. I have none, myself, but have read great things about them... especially at their price...

I'll send you my leftover Sportapro/ksc35 drivers with the PE headband for you to try out. I can't give up my KSC35 clips though. tongue.gif

I think I may have ruined my PE headband which may fit too loosely, so I'll have to check.

I'll even throw in the Px100-II modded with KSC75 clips, though they are less comfy.


I guarantee it's gonna take you an eternity to get them to go on right. At first, it's a monumental task to put on the clips right, lol. I may have to do a video on just putting them on right, lol.

You can send them back at your leisure, and in super small packaging. smily_headphones1.gif


I'm gonna start writing my 1840 review today (as in an hour).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/6/14 at 2:24am
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Hi guys.. im going to buy the fidelio and connect it with a xonar u3 but i read that this setup alone will mess up the sq due to impedance.. so i decided to connect a dac/amp combo in between.. i was just wondering which is better to connect with this setup.. the e7 or the e10? E17 is kinda out of the budget.. i hope someone can help me.. thanks!
post #19671 of 27124
Thread Starter 
Well, since neither are have optical dacs, you don't need to buy a dac/amp. The cheapest dac/amp with an optical input is the E17, FWIS. For now, you can just get an E11, which is actually a little more powerful than the E17, but has no dac.

Bear in mind, you will be double amping from the U3. All you're doing is amping the amped signal with a better output impedance, which will stabilize the X1's frequency response.

Honestly, I'd just get the U3 and x1 for now (though it may sound a little thin at first), then buying a used E17 later. We're talking like a $20 difference from something like the E11 anyways.

The E10 only works as a usb dac FIRST, so you can't connect the U3 to it.

The E7K IMHO just isn't worth it, when the E17 is just a little more and has all the features plus more power.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/6/14 at 3:08am
post #19672 of 27124
Thank you for the response! How much performance gain our se talking about here if i decided to stretch my budget to buy the e17?
post #19673 of 27124
Thread Starter 
You're getting the optical input which is the most important aspect, as you can st the U3 to output an optical signal, so you won't be using the U3 for anything other than Dolby headphone processing, and using the E17's internal dac and amp. The E17's amp is considerably stronger than the E7s, and the X1, while efficient can still benefit from more and more power. Performance gain is subjective. You can't put a number on it. I haven't tested the E7K, but the power specs don't convince me it'd be anything truly proper for the X1.

I honestly don't understand why the E7K was made after the E17, as it's only a bit cheaper and lacks the spdif input and is weaker. They should've focused on something else.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/6/14 at 3:51am
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I'll take a look at those koss, but what about the CAL!? I know you liked them when you had them a long time ago. I see they are on sale now for $73.99 and the CAL! 2 is 129.99 although I don't know anything about them.

How come the Koss KSC35 is discontinued if it was better than the KSC75? Was it just to get people to buy sportapro and the KSC75 and have to make their own? Lol
post #19675 of 27124
Thread Starter 
The Koss KSC35 isn't discontinued. Koss sells it directly from their website.

No idea why they stopped selling it outside of their site though.

The CAL is great. Tyll at Innerfidelity stated that the CAL2 is inferior to the original CAL, which I expected, as it no longer uses Fostex's bio-cellulose drivers.

The CAL is and will always be an impressive headphone to my ears, but I prefer the low profile, openness, and comfort of the Koss clip ons. In fact, i feel I may have scored the KSC35's comfort too low. tongue.gif
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/6/14 at 5:57am
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Heyja,

 

will the AD700 or Sony MDRMA900 be an Upgrade vs my HD598? Or it is not worth?

 

*for Gaming

 

Thanks

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Heads-up for the K612 Pros, amazing, amazing headphones [even when driven off a DAP, unamped IMO, though they will surely improve further when my amp arrive].

For the same price as the MA900, IMO they beat it in everything but air quantity and sheer soundstage size [though the imaging is superior], bass is subjective [K612 a bit tighter, MA900 a bit boomier, but still very tight].

Overall, very impressed, they are different to the MA900 somewhat [though still similar in essence].

I'll post more when the amp is here [M-Stage] but as said, even now, they are essentially what I hoped for [and you still have the opportunity to get the K701/2 pads for them to gain a bit more air/soundstage at the expense of a bit of bass, I am planning to get them later]

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Looks like im gonna be going with the e17 then. More questions.. do i need to buy anything else aside from the u3 and the e17 to have it working with the laptop? This is actually my first time doing this and my first time buying a dac and amp so i really have no idea.. thank you!
post #19679 of 27124

Hey

 

Not sure if this is the right place for my question.


Would there be a difference in games (FPS) with this situation?

from Soundcard > Headphones; moving to USB DAC > Amp > Headphones

 

I read here and there suggestions to go with SPDIF from soundcard into DAC but in another place I read that there won't be any difference.

I mean there would obviously be the difference in quality from a crappy onboard soundcard to a decent DAC. What I mean is, in terms of sound cues about players positions, would there be any difference?

 

Thanks a lot in advance!

post #19680 of 27124
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Koss KSC35 isn't discontinued. Koss sells it directly from their website.

No idea why they stopped selling it outside of their site though.

The CAL is great. Tyll at Innerfidelity stated that the CAL2 is inferior to the original CAL, which I expected, as it no longer uses Fostex's bio-cellulose drivers.

The CAL is and will always be an impressive headphone to my ears, but I prefer the low profile, openness, and comfort of the Koss clip ons. In fact, i feel I may have scored the KSC35's comfort too low. tongue.gif


It's actually cheaper for me to buy the ksc35 directly vs buying the other 2 individually. They look like a solid solution for on the go. Truth be told though, I use my handhelds at home more than I take them with me so I don't really mind larger headphones. It's also why I most likely will just bite on the fidelio x1 and complete my home setup.

From the sounds of it they could just plug in directly and sound just fine without any amping. Or if needed just pick up something cheap like the e11 or e12 although e12 probably not necessary. The only thing that holds me back is that I already have the Annie so I just don't know how much of a difference there would really be, like is the bass that much more for that fun and immersion factor? That's really the big thing for me is the bass factor. If it's enough of a difference then that's probably what I would end up doing and grabbing a pair of koss for the times I need them.

I just recently had to renew my phone contract so I upgraded to a Samsung galaxy note 3 (pretty beastly phone) so I assume the Koss would work well with that as well.

*edit* obviously I'd be able to use the X1's on my console/pc and not just entirely for my handhelds so theres always that too.
Edited by Chubtoad - 1/6/14 at 8:38am
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