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post #19621 of 26605
Thread Starter 
What do you guys think of this under a Thanks section on the guide? I feel like I'm missing a bit. Let me know.


Gaming Guide Contributors/Regulars

@AxelCloris
@chicolom
@Change is Good - Shure SRH1840, Schiit Asgard 2 (for review of Alpha Dog and 1840)
@Evshrug
@NamelessPFG - Victor SU-DH1, Creative Recon 3D USB
@PurpleAngel

Contributors

@calpis - Ultrasone Pro 2900
@HeadAmp - Audeze LCD2, Stax SR407
@jazzerdave Koss ESP-950
@MattTCG Mad Dog
@mrspeakers - Mad Dog, Alpha Dog
@ruuku - Guide help
@tdockweiler - Q701 (for comparison to K702 Anniversary)

Companies (headphones sent in for review)

Astrogaming - A40, A50
Headamp - LCD2 - SR407
MrSpeakers - Mad Dog, Alpha Dog
Nuforce - HP800
Skullcandy - Slyr, PLYR1
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/4/14 at 1:18am
post #19622 of 26605
Looks good to me. I like how you even included the companies, as well.
post #19623 of 26605
Thread Starter 
I'm undoubtedly missing some people, but I have a horrible memory, as soon as they post, I'll remember. XD

Ah, I'll have to add MrSpeaker on the company section as well. Headamp too.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/4/14 at 1:13am
post #19624 of 26605
You might want to check the replies section and see who's posted the most for you to remember anyone you might have forgotten.
post #19625 of 26605

[quote]You could go to speedtest.net and measure your connection[/quote]

 

Nice information. It's very useful tips to improve my internet speed. Now i have better internet speed. Finally i checked my internet speed using the site ScanMySpeed.com

post #19626 of 26605
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Originally Posted by ateupwithgolf View Post

Great thread, just what i was looking for. MLE, can you tell me if there is any difference between the sony dir800c unit vs the 2013 mixamp? i got an xbox one to go upstairs and didnt want to move my setup with the xbox360, so i bought the mixamp to pair with the xbox one. Im currently using Sony F1's plugged in to either the dir800c or mixamp and came across your thread in search of a new gaming can that might out perform the F1's. my budget is $300. my use is gaming 90%. only other headphone ive ever tried was the ad700 amd hated the comfort. thinking sony ma900, but if theres a better one in my price range im all in. Suggestions? thanks!

Didn't get a reply so I'll ask another way.....currently use sony f1's for gaming, are akgq701's better for sound whoring?

Also, does the Sony DH decoder http://wireless-headphones-review.toptenreviews.com/pioneer-se-dir800c-review.html here do the exact same thing as the mixamp?
post #19627 of 26605
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

What do you guys think of this under a Thanks section on the guide? I feel like I'm missing a bit. Let me know.


Gaming Guide Contributors/Regulars

@AxelCloris
@chicolom
@Change is Good - Shure SRH1840, Schiit Asgard 2 (for review of Alpha Dog and 1840)
@Evshrug
@NamelessPFG - Victor SU-DH1, Creative Recon 3D USB
@PurpleAngel

Contributors

@calpis - Ultrasone Pro 2900
@HeadAmp - Audeze LCD2, Stax SR407
@jazzerdave Koss ESP-950
@MattTCG Mad Dog
@mrspeakers - Mad Dog, Alpha Dog
@ruuku - Guide help
@tdockweiler - Q701 (for comparison to K702 Anniversary)

Companies (headphones sent in for review)

Astrogaming - A40, A50
Headamp - LCD2 - SR407
MrSpeakers - Mad Dog, Alpha Dog
Nuforce - HP800
Skullcandy - Slyr, PLYR1

Wow, thank you! Yeah I'm down with that, though it motivates me to contribute something specific... I'll figure it out. Apparently, it must be the Omni wink.gif

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Originally Posted by ateupwithgolf View Post

Didn't get a reply so I'll ask another way.....currently use sony f1's for gaming, are akgq701's better for sound whoring?

Also, does the Sony DH decoder http://wireless-headphones-review.toptenreviews.com/pioneer-se-dir800c-review.html here do the exact same thing as the mixamp?
Maybe you didn't get a reply because you didn't link to the actual product, so anyone like me, on our day off work looking for fun, would have to do some digging to see what you're talking about, AND we don't immediately reply because we haven't heard them ourselves.

That said, I looked it up. The Pioneer that is actually on the page you linked seems really attractive, and it uses Dolby Headphone to create technically high-performance virtual surround. BUT... The Sony is one of those headphones that uses separate drivers clustered in each earpiece. You can't use it's decoder with other headphones (it's a special processor to tell the Sony 5.1 headphone to play this sound on that driver...). Also, multi-driver headphones compromise sound quality and refinement in order to cram those extra drivers (speakers) inside, plus the compromise in amping and DAC hardware limited to what can fit into the wireless headphones themselves, it's easy to make an educated recommendation that the Q701's (which I do have LOTS of experience with) would outperform the Sony F1, especially when you pair it with a decent amp.

EDIT:
Honestly dude, kinda wishing now I hadn't wasted the time looking up the answer to your question... I don't mean to be rude in saying that, but it would've been more respectful of others on your end to link to the right stuff, because basically I had to to the same web research you could've done yourself. But, since I found it, here's the info:

The Sony MDR-F1:
Discontinued, few reviews. Looking at it, the headphone is a stereo unit that looks like the predecessor to the Sony MDR-MA900, not the wireless Sony mentioned in the review round-up in your link. Similar earcups, impedance ratings (and impedance compensator), driver size, and basic technical stats. If it's anything like the MA900, then it's a very good and competent headphone, but I don't know because there are very very few reviews and none by people whom I've got a grasp on their tastes and how they'd stack up to other headphones.

The PIONEER se-dir800c:
Looks like a decent unit, and now I understand why your link went to the wireless Pioneer headphones that come with this decoder. It uses the same Dolby Headphone surround processing as the Mixamp and DSS, discussed at length here, but I don't know how the built-in DAC and Amp compare to the built-in DAC/Amp of the Mixamp. Google search unearths this useful resource for you:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/193743/pioneer-se-dir800c-vs-sony-mdr-ds6000/0_30
Edited by Evshrug - 1/4/14 at 12:06pm
post #19628 of 26605
For anybody attaching a boom mic to headphones, I can highly recommend using 3M dual lock instead of velcro, it provides a stronger attachment and the mic doesn't wobble. I bought a couple of small pieces from ebay cheaply. Big improvement over the velcro I was using.
post #19629 of 26605
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Wow, thank you! Yeah I'm down with that, though it motivates me to contribute something specific... I'll figure it out. Apparently, it must be the Omni wink.gif
Maybe you didn't get a reply because you didn't link to the actual product, so anyone like me, on our day off work looking for fun, would have to do some digging to see what you're talking about, AND we don't immediately reply because we haven't heard them ourselves.

That said, I looked it up. The Pioneer that is actually on the page you linked seems really attractive, and it uses Dolby Headphone to create technically high-performance virtual surround. BUT... The Sony is one of those headphones that uses separate drivers clustered in each earpiece. You can't use it's decoder with other headphones (it's a special processor to tell the Sony 5.1 headphone to play this sound on that driver...). Also, multi-driver headphones compromise sound quality and refinement in order to cram those extra drivers (speakers) inside, plus the compromise in amping and DAC hardware limited to what can fit into the wireless headphones themselves, it's easy to make an educated recommendation that the Q701's (which I do have LOTS of experience with) would outperform the Sony F1, especially when you pair it with a decent amp.

EDIT:
Honestly dude, kinda wishing now I hadn't wasted the time looking up the answer to your question... I don't mean to be rude in saying that, but it would've been more respectful of others on your end to link to the right stuff, because basically I had to to the same web research you could've done yourself. But, since I found it, here's the info:

The Sony MDR-F1:
Discontinued, few reviews. Looking at it, the headphone is a stereo unit that looks like the predecessor to the Sony MDR-MA900, not the wireless Sony mentioned in the review round-up in your link. Similar earcups, impedance ratings (and impedance compensator), driver size, and basic technical stats. If it's anything like the MA900, then it's a very good and competent headphone, but I don't know because there are very very few reviews and none by people whom I've got a grasp on their tastes and how they'd stack up to other headphones.

The PIONEER se-dir800c:
Looks like a decent unit, and now I understand why your link went to the wireless Pioneer headphones that come with this decoder. It uses the same Dolby Headphone surround processing as the Mixamp and DSS, discussed at length here, but I don't know how the built-in DAC and Amp compare to the built-in DAC/Amp of the Mixamp. Google search unearths this useful resource for you:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/193743/pioneer-se-dir800c-vs-sony-mdr-ds6000/0_30

Wow, it must be really cold in Pittsburgh for that reply. To clarify, I use the DH decoder in the Sony and plug in the Sony MDR-F1's into the base unit instead of using the wireless headphones that come with it. I also have a mixamp 2013 version. I am wondering if anyone knows if the mixamp and the decoder in the sony do the same thing. If they do indeed, would a akgq701 be a superior headphone for gaming than the Sony F1's?
EDIT: apologize for not linking the first time
post #19630 of 26605
I really need advice on which headphone/mic or headset to buy that will work on my PS4 and Xbox One. My budget is $250. Can anyone please help?
post #19631 of 26605
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

I really need advice on which headphone/mic or headset to buy that will work on my PS4 and Xbox One. My budget is $250. Can anyone please help?


any headphone will work, it comes down to the product suppling the DH to the headset (like a mixamp) working with ps4/xbox one and how good the headphone itself is.

post #19632 of 26605
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

I really need advice on which headphone/mic or headset to buy that will work on my PS4 and Xbox One. My budget is $250. Can anyone please help?

 

If you already have the device to go between the console and headphones (mixamp/DSS/Recon3D USB/etc) then you have a decent selection available at the $250 price point. What kind of games do you intend to play? Knowing the game type may help us narrow down which could be best. Do you plan to use the headphones for anything other than gaming? Do you want to use an amp or are you looking specifically for headphones that don't require one? Do you like cheeseburgers?

post #19633 of 26605
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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post


any headphone will work, it comes down to the product suppling the DH to the headset (like a mixamp) working with ps4/xbox one and how good the headphone itself is.
What about the mic? I'm also interested in the Polk Audio 4Shot headset that's coming out. Sound quality should be similar to the Polk Audio Melee from what I've read.
post #19634 of 26605

Pretty sure I remember reading that the 4 Shot is exclusive to the Xbox One. Am I mistaken?

post #19635 of 26605
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

If you already have the device to go between the console and headphones (mixamp/DSS/Recon3D USB/etc) then you have a decent selection available at the $250 price point. What kind of games do you intend to play? Knowing the game type may help us narrow down which could be best. Do you plan to use the headphones for anything other than gaming? Do you want to use an amp or are you looking specifically for headphones that don't require one? Do you like cheeseburgers?
I love cheeseburgers and I need a mic to go along with the headphones. I don't want to wrap a mic around my neck though. I have a DSS and I really don't want to add an amp. A wireless headset would be perfect but the only one that looks interesting to me is the Polk Audio 4Shot. I'm mostly into fps, racing, sports and adventure games.

Forgot to mention that I own the original DSS.
Edited by DADDYDC650 - 1/4/14 at 1:24pm
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