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Originally Posted by chococya96 View Post
 

Are Annie and K701 true 5.1/7.1 headphone?

Those "true" 5.1 (6-channel) or 7.1 (8-channel) headphones use lots of very very low cost diaphragms driven by low quality amps, if what even drives those "true 7.1" headphones could be called amps.

 

Better to have a Headphone 5.1/7.1 Surround Sound device preprocess the surround sound audio and send it thru a quality headphone amplifier to quality 2-channel headphones (like the Annie and K701).

Our heads only take in 2-channel audio, right ear and left ear, so a 2-channel headphone can easily fool the ears into thinking there are hearing surround sound.

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Did i read somewhere that the Alpha Dogs are designed with offering a better soundstage also because of MLEs contributions or was i dreaming?
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Thread Starter 
I just think my complaint about the MD's soundstage not being as big as the hyperbole Head-fi as a whole claimed was one of many, many factors that made Dan strive to improved the openness of the Mad Dogs. I'm positive I'm probably a very small factor, as I'm sure Dan has never stopped wanting to improve his headphones.

I'm still skeptical. After all, closed is closed, and no matter what trickery is used, I just don't ever see a closed headphone sounding open. "Large soundstage for a closed headphone" is about as much as I expect from ANY closed headphone. I think part if it is due to the ruined isolation caused by open headphones. Hearing just a little external influence may trick our brains into a bigger sense of openness in sound. If you're completely closed off from external noise (no matter how low or silent a room is), I just think our brains will perceive it as closed sounding.

Still, I'm interested in hearing what feats the Alpha Dogs are capable of.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 9/7/13 at 3:40am
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MLE have you used Razer Surround before, its supposed to work like dolby headphone and simulate 7.1 surround ?

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Thread Starter 
Yeah, I didn't like it at all. Rear audio cues are useless in comparison to DH and THS Tru Studio, imo.
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i've settled on the q701s as it sounds like they give good overall sound, not sure if the bass will be good

just to clarify i don't want boomy bass i just want to be able to hear it!

 

now im not sure if you know a lot about sound cards (i presume you do)

but which would you recommend for the q701s

 

im trying to decide between these

 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=13190

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=22196

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=21183

 

im leaning towards the asus dx but i don't think i has a headphone amp :(

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Is there a headphone out there with good bass for rap/hiphop and dubstep, and forward midrange with smooth, but realistic treble?

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Mitch,
I do believe the Asus DG is recommended in the DH in a soundcard camp, because it has a decent amp. Fact-check me though. Personally I would pick the SoundBlaster for the drivers.
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Mitch,
I do believe the Asus DG is recommended in the DH in a soundcard camp, because it has a decent amp. Fact-check me though. Personally I would pick the SoundBlaster for the drivers.
Dh ?
Thanks smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Mitchb2020 View Post

i've settled on the q701s as it sounds like they give good overall sound, not sure if the bass will be good
just to clarify i don't want boomy bass i just want to be able to hear it!

now im not sure if you know a lot about sound cards (i presume you do)
but which would you recommend for the q701s

im trying to decide between these

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=13190
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=22196
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=21183

im leaning towards the asus dx but i don't think i has a headphone amp frown.gif
DH = Dolby Headphone. I've owned all three cards. The Z is best for music. Go with the DX if you want DH for gaming. The sound of the DGX is poor, akin to today's onboard. If you go DX, be aware that you need a 4-pin power cable that can reach it and you may need to use the Unified Driver if you get crashes.
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Can the dx drive the q701s??
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

DH = Dolby Headphone. I've owned all three cards. The Z is best for music. Go with the DX if you want DH for gaming. The sound of the DGX is poor, akin to today's onboard. If you go DX, be aware that you need a 4-pin power cable that can reach it and you may need to use the Unified Driver if you get crashes.
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Originally Posted by Mitchb2020 View Post

Can the dx drive the q701s??
That's a good question. The Z has a dedicated headphone amp (http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/7138) and lower output impedance, I'm not sure if the DX ouputs sound straight out of a single opamp or what not. Maybe someone here has paired the DX with the Q701 and can tell you their results.
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Mitch,

Dolby Headphone is what Mad likes to use for surround processing. I like Creative's last effort, THX TruStudio Pro because it had less echo and distortion, but they're pretty close. Creative's Soundblaster Z has the newer SBX for surround processing, amp, and also includes a beamforming microphone that does a decent job. I suggested the DG if you like DH because PurpleAngel has been recommending that as a budget sound card for a year.

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I have around 100 to spend though
The only asus card in that range is the dx
So i may go with the SoundBlaster z
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Originally Posted by Mitchb2020 View Post
 

I've settled on the q701s as it sounds like they give good overall sound, not sure if the bass will be good

just to clarify i don't want boomy bass i just want to be able to hear it!

now im not sure if you know a lot about sound cards (i presume you do)

but which would you recommend for the q701s

im trying to decide between these

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=13190

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=22196

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=211&products_id=21183

im leaning towards the asus dx but i don't think i has a headphone amp :(

The SB-Z (Sound Blaster Z) comes with the same DAC chip (CS4398) as the Xonar DX, but the DX does not have a true headphone amplifier and also has a high impedance.

Where as the SB-Z has a headphone amplifier and a lower output impedance.

The DG has a lower quality DAC chip (but still decent) and a headphone amplifier.

So I'm guess the SB-Z is the best pick.

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