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I really want to get the K712 sometime, I always loved the AKG sound and found they tend to have great timbre. I agree the Q701 is a bit too thin sounding, and it has an unfocused center soundstage. I would love something fairly similar to the thick luscious sound the K240 has but better, the K712 seems like best option in terms of an upgrade in the AKG camp. Going to wait until the price drops and I can actually afford it.

 

If you like the K240, I think the K712 will be a pretty natural upgrade.  I did a little review of the K240 in comparison to the Anniversary: http://www.head-fi.org/t/664045/akg-k240-studio-comparison-review

 

The K712 moves slightly closer to the K240 in sound since it's a tad lusher and fuller than the Anniversary.

 

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Maybe the K712 price will drop, but I'd need it closer to $300 before I'll consider it.

 

Razor dog has them for 399, and may eventually drop them to ~350 after several months have passed.  I think that's as low as the Anniversaries ever got.  They started going back up recently (I assume from the "limited edition" status and supply slowly running down).  Same story for Amazon's pricing: http://camelcamelcamel.com/AKG-K702-65th-Anniversary-Edition/product/B00A8LZ5GU

 

I doubt the K712 will drop too much though, as AKG now has made-in-China K702s as well as Q701s.  I think part of their "Pro" branding is to signify that it's the line that's still made in Austria, and I assume they will try to keep it at a higher price to differentiate it more from the ~$250 K702 and Q701.  Razor Dog said the K712s currently cost him $50 more than the Anniversaries to obtain.  I think AKG means for the the K712 to compete more directly with the HD650 in price than with ~250-300 phones.


Edited by chicolom - 9/2/13 at 5:15pm
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BTW, Mad, about those Momentum on ears; if its fit is anything like the amperior they will isolate extremely well while maintaining great comfort with those velour pads.

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

If you like the K240, I think the K712 will be a pretty natural upgrade.  I did a little review of the K240 in comparison to the Anniversary: http://www.head-fi.org/t/664045/akg-k240-studio-comparison-review

 

The K712 moves slightly closer to the K240 in sound since it's a tad lusher and fuller than the Anniversary.

 


That's what I thought the K712 would be, an upgraded K240. I notice there was no mention of the big 10khz spike in the treble of the K240 and it's tendency to overemphasize sibilance because of it.

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Sold my e17 smily_headphones1.gif))))
Now just the dt990s to go
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That's what I thought the K712 would be, an upgraded K240. I notice there was no mention of the big 10khz spike in the treble of the K240 and it's tendency to overemphasize sibilance because of it.

 

I didn't really hear sibilance on the K240, so I didn't mention it.

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I didn't really hear sibilance on the K240, so I didn't mention it.


Odd, they have as much sibilance as the DT 990 Pro to me, a little bit of EQ tames the spike.

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The Q701 has drier peakier mids than the Anniversary, which in turn has drier peakier mids than the K712.  The main issue with the Q701s timbre is the mids being a bit too thin and dry.   The Anniversary fixes that some and gives them greater body and smoothness.  The K712 takes it slightly further, but not too much.  I personally prefer the timbre on both the Anniversary and K712 to the Q701.  Between the Anniversary and K712, a slight edge to the K712.

 

The K712 doesn't change the soundstage too much.  I think it will still be oval shaped.  I can't remember the AD700s soundstage depth.  I thought the MA900 was oval shaped too.  Depth is tricky to pull of.  The T1s and HD800s had nice depth tongue.gif

Chico (or any new K712Pro owners),

 

Great review/impressions of the K712 and very much appreciated.  Well, actually you guys are constantly making me look for the next best thing so not so appreciated....Damn Head-Fi! LOL.

My question actually concerns the competitive gaming prowess of the K712.  I currently own the D7000 for single player and movies and the Annie for online multi-player so would the K712 or even the Sony Ma900 improve on the competitive performance of the Annie (since I recall you mention the improved soundstage, albeit w/ less air)?  It seems that they may not see much benefit from the Annie but, wanted some first hand knowledge before curiosity gets the better of me.

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Chico (or any new K712Pro owners),

 

Great review/impressions of the K712 and very much appreciated.  Well, actually you guys are constantly making me look for the next best thing so not so appreciated....Damn Head-Fi! LOL.

My question actually concerns the competitive gaming prowess of the K712.  I currently own the D7000 for single player and movies and the Annie for online multi-player so would the K712 or even the Sony Ma900 improve on the competitive performance of the Annie (since I recall you mention the improved soundstage, albeit w/ less air)?  It seems that they may not see much benefit from the Annie but, wanted some first hand knowledge before curiosity gets the better of me.

 

Going from the Anniversary to the K712 just for multiplayer gaming won't be worth it.  Any changes will be too subtle for that.  Same with the MA900s, except IMO they're a minor step down from the Anniversary, so I wouldn't go that route if you already have the Anniversary.

 

You could stick angled pads on the Anniversaries which which will make it better for sound whoring.

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Ok... now I'm AKG-less, MrChicolom... frown.gif

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Ok... now I'm AKG-less, MrChicolom... frown.gif

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/679443/k712-pro-briefely-auditioned-mint

 

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Are the akg 712 s new 702s?

Also my dt990s are 248 usd to america including shippimg
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Are the akg 712 s new 702s?

 

K712 sounds different from K702.

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K712 sounds different from K702.
How so
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have you guys seen the sony xbr xb1000s ?

haha its rediculous
 

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