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The difference to your Pro 2900 will be glorious (I once had a 2900 too)

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Also, to a certain degree, I'm starting to think like "Look, the Fostex is around $600-800 cheaper. If you think you're still missing something in the sound, you have more left to try something else later!". Is... is this that Head-Fi addiction thing I keep hearing about?

I'm actually up in Canada, Manitoba more specifically. Right smack-dab in the middle of the country.

Well, no, I wouldn't quite say you have Head-Fi addiction yet. I would say you are infected with Head-Fi reasoning and perspective though, lol! If it makes you feel any better, I want to someday own a Leica M9, a $3,500 no-frills camera without things like live-view image preview, autofocus, or even auto exposure. Oh, and each lens is another $1000-$4000 on top of that, and usually they're prime lenses that don't zoom in or out. I want one so bad...
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I'm currently on vacation (staycation really), and my boy is visiting from Denmark. Disney, Wet n Wild, Universal Studios, etc.

He went and bought two Plyr1s off my recommendation to take back for him and his friend.

Skullcandy, you owe me! biggrin.gif

If I'm not on much, its because, yeah. Living it up for a week.
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Hmmmmm... I do like at least some amount of impactful bass, especially considering when I do listen to music, it usually does end up straying towards the hip-hop, electronic, R&B and the like. I don't know if you can remember, but do you know how they compare as far as forward or outward depth is concerned? Like, how far out does the soundstage feel on the two? Does the TH600 seem like it's placing instruments/sounds in relatively natural spaces?

 

Also, to a certain degree, I'm starting to think like "Look, the Fostex is around $600-800 cheaper. If you think you're still missing something in the sound, you have more left to try something else later!". Is... is this that Head-Fi addiction thing I keep hearing about?

 

I'm actually up in Canada, Manitoba more specifically. Right smack-dab in the middle of the country.

With Dolby Headphones the Fostex holds its own producing better placed rear cues IMO. For music, comparing the HD800 sound stage to any other headphone is almost pointless because it has the most out of head music experience I have ever heard. This is by far the best quality of the HD if you ask me, and in my experience is unmatched. The sound stage of the HD is what produces its own brand of fun . That being said, I personally prefer the Fostex in every other aspect, the only fault I have is with the non detachable cable, but that is only a small gripe that does not affect much. Based on your genres of music and the fact this is a gaming thread, when comparing the two, I have received much more enjoyment from the Fostex. If you do use headphones for movies I cannot stress how amazing these are. Every headphone I have had in my home takes the movie test, and the Fostex surpasses them all. Like you said, you can pick up the Fostex for almost 700$ less than the Sennheiser, so there is only one clear option here. Buy the refurb HD800 from Crutchfield for 1100$, snag a pair of Fostex for 800$ish and for 400$ more than the HD msrp you have a super sick combo. beyersmile.pngbeyersmile.png

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That sounds like an expensive and enthralling idea, sir. Sign me up. Seriously, though, I'll probably end up doing that, even if the HD800 comes later on.

 

I saw that you got yours from HeadAmp. Do you know how the warranty works for you if you ever happen to need service? I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth taking a chance on PriceJapan. They're around $200 cheaper than buying from a Canadian place, including the import taxes, but their website says that a one-year "valid in Japan" warranty is issued for the items they buy. Apparently you have to send them back any defective item with shipping there and back at your cost.

 

Although, if the information on the Fostex website is right, that's kind of what I'd be doing locally anyway, it's just mailing it to a service place in Canada instead. Unless it mentions on the warranty card that you get to deal with Fostex directly.


Edited by Dillweed - 7/9/13 at 4:18pm
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That sounds like an expensive and enthralling idea, sir. Sign me up. Seriously, though, I'll probably end up doing that, even if the HD800 comes later on.

 

I saw that you got yours from HeadAmp. Do you know how the warranty works for you if you ever happen to need service? I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth taking a chance on PriceJapan. They're around $200 cheaper than buying from a Canadian place, including the import taxes, but their website says that a one-year "valid in Japan" warranty is issued for the items they buy. Apparently you have to send them back any defective item with shipping there and back at your cost.

Yup, I spent a little more to have that security. I'm a warranty kinda guy. Don't quote me here, but to my understanding, if anything goes wrong I will send them to Justin at Headamp and he sends them in for repair/replacement. That is my understanding. Ill go look at the warranty card and if it says anything else I will report back. 

 

Edit: The only thing I could read on the card says don't drive or ride bicycles with the Fostex. Haha


Edited by Happy Bullets - 7/9/13 at 4:23pm
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Okay, thanks for pushing me towards reconsidering things, HB. And thanks, guys, for the other suggestions that basically made me read about things for hours on end trying to find every possible differing opinion and impression on a bunch of different headphones. Unfortunately, my circumstances have changed a bit in the past few hours so I'm going to have to hold off for now, but I'll most likely be grabbing the TH600 once things have gotten a little better financially. Thanks again, guys.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I'm currently on vacation (staycation really), and my boy is visiting from Denmark. Disney, Wet n Wild, Universal Studios, etc.

He went and bought two Plyr1s off my recommendation to take back for him and his friend.

Skullcandy, you owe me! biggrin.gif

If I'm not on much, its because, yeah. Living it up for a week.

You are contributor know? Gratz... 

 

Also, why havn't you tried hd800 for gaming yet?!

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Really appreciate the thread MadLust and I recommend constantly to others over on gaming forums to come here for help with choosing their next audio solution. However now I find I'm in need of some help myself.

 

I've been trying to decide between the DT990's and HE-400.  90% of the time I will be using them for gaming and I'll be powering them with a Soundblaster ZxR sound card.  I do enjoy some good positional cues, however I'm mainly in it for the "fun" listening factor.  The  games I'm playing now are: Battlefield 3, Far Cry 3, Crysis, Team Fortress 2, CS:GO, Skyrim, etc. I do not wish to spend more then $450, but I am open to suggestions for other headphones.

 

Any replies are very much appreciated, thanks.

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For the things the HE400 and DT990 do well, I recommend the Philips Fidelio X1. Seriously. Take the best things of both those you mentioned and you put themtogether, you get the X1. It doesnt have the Planar sound of the HE400, but Iit doesnt have overly exaggerated treble. It's as fun as the 990 too.
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You are contributor know? Gratz... 

Also, why havn't you tried hd800 for gaming yet?!

My job screwed me, and now I'm basically making what feels like minimum wage.

Yeah, way outside of my means.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/10/13 at 6:50am
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For the things the HE400 and DT990 do well, I recommend the Philips Fidelio X1. Seriously. Take the best things of both those you mentioned and you put themtogether, you get the X1. It doesnt have the Planar sound of the HE400, but Iit doesnt have overly exaggerated treble. It's as fun as the 990 too.

damn you MLE, you keep making me want to get these as a secondary pair, or a pair to leave hooked to my PC so i don't have to keep switching. Your description though of them doesn't really sound like its worth it in my case, I am kind of looking for a pair that is more of a complimentary pair to go along with the Annies rather than replace them. I see X1 praise in a lot of threads now and my curiosity is going to get the better of me one day hah.

 

I was actually looking for some basshead styled headphones and I have been reading up on basically pro900 vs ath-pro700mk2.

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Well, I don't see the X1 as a replacement to the Annie at all. They're quite different. The X1 is more aggressive, the Annie os more linear and less fatiguing.
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I just read a review about the TB DSS, and he said that they don't do surround sound very well, is this true?

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It does it as well as any Dolby Headphone device. It's not the device that's the problem. It would be whatever headphone they have paired with it.

Because the DSS is typically paired up with Turtle Beach headsets, the surround won't come off that impressive. None of the Turtle beach headsets I demoed with the Dolby Headphone sounded even remotely decent. Those headsets are huge bottlenecks.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/10/13 at 10:00am
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