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That's roughly similar to what I'm doing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can still have that setup without the mixamp right? My xbox is in a cupboard at the moment but I recall you can adjust the microphone and game volume in the xbox's voice settings. So you could set up the relative voice/game levels on the xbox and then change the actual headphone volume using your amp correct? The microphone would plug straight into the controller using a 2.5/3.5mm adapter. Obviously it's more convenient to have the mixamp especially if you play alot of multiplayer, but for someone who has already spent far too much already (lol) the above setup is workable yeah?
 

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That's roughly similar to what I'm doing. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can still have that setup without the mixamp right? My xbox is in a cupboard at the moment but I recall you can adjust the microphone and game volume in the xbox's voice settings. So you could set up the relative voice/game levels on the xbox and then change the actual headphone volume using your amp correct? The microphone would plug straight into the controller using a 2.5/3.5mm adapter. Obviously it's more convenient to have the mixamp especially if you play alot of multiplayer, but for someone who has already spent far too much already (lol) the above setup is workable yeah?
 

It would work. You'll just have to plug your headphones into the back of your TV's headphone jack.

I did it with my T.V. for BFBC2. It was amazing!

 

My setup could actually be useless, since the PS4 controller has a freaking headphone jack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvbcemxAlM

 

I'll guess we'll see after I get the money to pre order the thing.

post #14358 of 27153

Umm...the whole point is to get surround sound to the headphones, which isn't possible unless a DD 5.1 decoding device is used.

 

I believe the Xbox's method of adjusting game/voice volume is to just drop the game volume while chat is happening, then raise it back up once it has stopped.  

 

I'm pretty sure the PS4s controller/headphone jack will just be a weak stereo output...

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So I found that my Mixamp is the ONLY Mixamp I've owned that distorts the sound if I max the volume and adjust with my Compass 2. I have to lower the master volume to around 70% so it doesn't distort.

While the X1 is easy to drive (quite easy), it sounds cleaner off my Compass 2 than just the Mixamp alone. Ah well.

Chico, by tonally neutral, I mean like voices and instruments. It mostly sounds neither warm or cold to me. But yes, in terms of bass and what it does to the sound, it does warm it up. The Annie just sounds smoother and warmer overall, though with less bass.

Bassy headphones can be cold/bright. For example: Pro 900, DT990.
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So I've been waiting to ask, how does the X1 do with position cues in game? In comparison to the Annie.
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Umm...the whole point is to get surround sound to the headphones, which isn't possible unless a DD 5.1 decoding device is used.

 

I believe the Xbox's method of adjusting game/voice volume is to just drop the game volume while chat is happening, then raise it back up once it has stopped.  

 

I'm pretty sure the PS4s controller/headphone jack will just be a weak stereo output...

I see, I didn't realise you needed a decoding device to read the digital output of the xbox, I figured I could just plug the optical out straight into my dac/amp. Bummer.  Anyway I'll have to drag out my xbox and check how the game and voice sliders work I think. It's frustrating that you need so much gear just to get headphones to work properly with consoles, and as you say next gen doesn't look much better in that department.


Edited by Echo Six - 6/15/13 at 10:06pm
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Chico, by tonally neutral, I mean like voices and instruments. It mostly sounds neither warm or cold to me. But yes, in terms of bass and what it does to the sound, it does warm it up. The Annie just sounds smoother and warmer overall, though with less bass.

Bassy headphones can be cold/bright. For example: Pro 900, DT990.

 

 

I see what your saying, and when you listen to them by themselves they do sound pretty neutral, which is one of the reasons I like them.  The X1 do sound darker and smoother than the Q701 though, which sounds faster, drier, and arier.  The X1s aren't quite as smooth as the Anniversary though.

 

So I still think the X1 is tilted a bit towards warm, regardless of the bass.


Edited by chicolom - 6/15/13 at 10:33pm
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So I rented the Last Of Us. Played with the X1 and the Mixamp, and these sure do through out a pretty large soundstage. I was quite impressed.

I dunno if it's the game, my Mixamp, or the X1, but some rear positional cues sounded really distant and recessed... almost like if it was DH room 3. Naughty Dog doesn't have the best sound mixing anyways (the Uncharted games don't do virtual surround well). I didn't have this issue with BLOPS or Sleeping Dogs, so I'll blame the game.

I'm not to happy with the gameplay. I was bored, TBH. The story and characters make that game, and I don't wanna go through the gameplay just to see the story. Oh well.
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So I rented the Last Of Us.

 

Did you fiddle with the in game audio options?

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Yes. Naughty Dog titles and virtual surround don't pair up that well.

How are you liking the MD? Thoughts and impressions...
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/15/13 at 11:18pm
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Yes. Naughty Dog titles and virtual surround don't pair up that well.

How are you liking the MD? Thoughts and impressions...

 

I agree. I was asking because I thought I was the only one that noticed it. Do you set the center speaker on large or small?

 

MDs are quite different. Definitely impressed by the sound these babies produce. It could still use a bit more sub bass and some sparkle in the treble. Other than that these are keepers. Hopefully, Dan takes those two things into consideration for his 3.3 update (if there will be one).

 

Then again, I think I'm becoming somewhat of a basshead... basshead.gif

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I leave it on small, since I believe setting it to large will lower voices, which isn't necessary. Not sure though.

I dont think Dan would go that route since 3.2 already reduced the mids for more bass. Any more and the MD will become v-shaped, which Dan isn't trying to do.
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I leave it on small, since I believe setting it to large will lower voices, which isn't necessary. Not sure though.

I dont think Dan would go that route since 3.2 already reduced the mids for more bass. Any more and the MD will become v-shaped, which Dan isn't trying to do.

 

True.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a sweet sound. I'm just still getting used to it because my ears have been accustomed to some bright cans in the past. I will definitely trade off what's been lost in treble for the bass impact I'm getting out of the X1 and MD, though. I'm pretty much using the X1 for movies/gaming and the MD for music. They compliment each other very well, IMHO... and I really couldn't be any happier. All I need, now, is a portable supra-aural and I'll be set.

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I wanna go to Best Buy and see if they have the Momentum up for demoing. That'd be my first choice as far as closed portables go. I'm not a fan of Vmoda's designs (too teenager-centric for me). I prefer elegant design like the X1 and Momentum. If the Philips M1 sounded great, those would be a good choice as far as looks go too. Then there is the Audio Technica ES700, ESw10, and ESw11JPN, etc... but are not comfy...
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/15/13 at 11:44pm
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I wanna go to Best Buy and see if they have the Momentum up for demoing. That'd be my first choice as far as closed portables go. I'm not a fan of Vmoda's designs (too teenager-centric for me). I prefer elegant design like the X1 and Momentum. If the Philips M1 sounded great, those would be a good choice as far as looks go too. Then there is the Audio Technica ES700, ESw10, and ESw11JPN, etc... but are not comfy...

 

I'd be interested in what the Momentum sounds like, too. It's not a big closed headphone and actually can be considered as a supra-aural to me (I have big ears lol). The Amperiors were sweet, but too U-shaped to me. I would try some of the ATs, but none have detachable cables. And as for the Vmodas, I know what you mean. That is why I have yet to pull the trigger on em... that and the fact they don't isolate well because of the design.

 

Edit: I'm a bit curious about the Sony MDR-1R but haven't done much research on it, yet.


Edited by Change is Good - 6/15/13 at 11:56pm
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