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I'm really jumping between the Beyer DT770 80 ohm and the DT990 Pros here. I'm usually in single player games, but want something that won't throw me out when I dabble competitively. More of a casual music listener so I don't mind a good bit of bass, but don't want a muddled sound

 

Help push me into a decision!

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Dt990 pro, all the way.
post #14268 of 27147
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Dt990 pro, all the way.

Do I need any amping to go with it? Or is that something I can pick up down the line?

 

edit: Had ordered the DT770, called up and changed the order to a DT990 for the same price. Lucky I asked :)


Edited by voidler - 6/12/13 at 9:52pm
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Does anyone actually read the guide on the first page? I answered that there. Just saying.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/12/13 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

That would be DICE's incredible sound engine technology at work my friend, so pretty much any surround virtualization technology is going to work really well - I also have THX Tru Studio on my soundcard.  I know you're a huge fan of positional cues so this is probably making you drool haha!  If you truly want your mind=blown (if you ever start playing online with people you know that is) check this out: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Positional-Audio & http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games This just solidifies the whole experience!

 

Then why do I find BF:BC2's positioning to be so terrible and inaccurate no matter what combination of audio settings I use between the game itself, Windows, and the X-Fi drivers? The sound samples themselves are good, but it's extremely difficult to figure out where they're coming from, and close analysis of the grenade explosion sound effect revealed a canned stereo pan regardless of what direction the explosion is coming from.

 

It was a big step back from the Refractor engine titles (BF1942, BF:Vietnam, BF2, BF2142), but those just used DS3D or OpenAL like everything else at the time.

 

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Just not my experience, I guess. Previous iterations, yes. The beta, yes. Those had problems. Not BF3. I've been a pretty competitive FPS gamer for quite a while and what Frostbite pulls off is just really impressive to me. You want horrible positional audio in a competitive FPS? Check out Planetside 2. I love that game, but its audio is so incredible inaccurate.

 

BTW, Planetside 2 as an exclusive to PS4... that's a reason to be excited about that system. Doesn't matter to me as I'd rather run it on a PC, but if you're trying to be excited about PS4, it's definitely a great reason to be.

 

Again, I just don't get it, because PlanetSide 2 at least has par for the course software audio mixing. I can tell where sounds are coming from with relative ease. That never happens with BF:BC2.

 

BF3 may be different, but I'm not holding my breath that they suddenly fixed the audio mixer for Frostbite 2.0. I'll find out soon enough...it's already June 13 here, but the Origin store hasn't updated yet.

 

Oh, and if PlanetSide 2's going to run on the PS4, then they'd better make sure the framerate doesn't dip below 20 FPS every time you take part in the middle of a really big fight, like at The Crown. The current PC client wants your CPU cycles, all of them, and a 3.0 GHz Q6600 isn't enough. If the forums are any indication, even the latest Ivy Bridge and Haswell i5/i7s at over 4 GHz struggle just as hard. It's arguably more demanding than Crysis.

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Does anyone actually read the guide on the first page? I answered that there. Just saying.

I did, your amazing guide is what I'm following! So thanks for that. But I'm new at this and direct clarification is always good too. Plus at 950 pages strong I figured the thread is still pretty active

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Everyone wants direct clarification, which is why I was bombarded with private messages asking the same questions over and over. If it's on the guide, I wont answer. It's pretty clear on there. Trust me, answering the same questions daily that are answered there gets pretty tiresome.

Someone recently asked me in pm if I still loved the D7000.

I was like... "..."
post #14273 of 27147
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The 250ohm is harder to drive than the 32ohm in terms of VOLUME, and only on certain sources will a portable amp be enough. To be safe, you'll want a desktop amp for the 250ohm.

This is directly on the guide.

I ask people to please read the listing of the headphone you're interested in before asking questions. Please.

I'm really not teying to be mean or anything. Just... it's not hard.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/12/13 at 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Everyone wants direct clarification, which is why I was bombarded with private messages asking the same questions over and over. If it's on the guide, I wont answer. It's pretty clear on there. Trust me, answering the same questions daily that are answered there gets pretty tiresome.

Someone recently asked me in pm if I still loved the D7000.

I was like... "..."

I'm sure you do get pestered alot, that's why I didn't PM you, but posted in the thread. It even says in your sig no PMs.

 

I'm sure this forum has lots of knowledgeable people helping out, the question wasn't necessarily directed at you.

 

Anyway, thanks for the guide. Probably one of the most helpful things I found looking for answers about headphones

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"Fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity and its called Xbox 360."

 

...

 

I...


Did he just...

 

...confused.gif

post #14276 of 27147

Can someone tell me the full name of Recon 3Di?

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Haha. Out of touch, fat and complacent MS is worse than out of touch, fat and complacement Sony ever was. Amazing.

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PS4 won't be until November. Does this mean you'll get to try the X1, some more Stax and maybe even a Sennheiser electrostatic in between?
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Didn't even know there were different editions. I ordered it as soon as it was available...

So, I ended up cancelling the Kingsound stats, since my headpjone gaming habits aren't like before and I rather not spend so much on one setup. I already have a dac and amp, so spending 800 extra dollars was just... reaching. Using the funds for the PS4.

Just checked my Amazon, and it says I ordered the Standard edition. Booooo...

Though it also says they are identical. Probably just means launch edition gets it at launch and standard isn't guaranteed on launch day.

Edited by 3X0 - 6/13/13 at 4:19am
post #14279 of 27147

With Mixamp Pro you mention this

 

"Despite the added hiss compared to the old Mixamp Pro, the 2013 edition is worthwhile unless you absolutely want the least amount of hiss, which then you'll wanna seek out the older 2011 or the even older 2010 edition."

 

Are the older versions preferable?

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In terms of the least noise, yes. The first gen Mixamp, and Mixamp Pro (late 2010-2012) have the least noise. The Mixamp 5.8 and 2013 Mixamp (which has the EQ button on the face), have hiss which gets noticeably louder as you turn up the volume. The older ones have low hiss to almost none until you max it out, and it's a complete non-issue.

I recently bought a 2011 Mixamp (no cables or anything) for $56. Should be here soon, to replace my broken receiver...

I already have the cables needed (optixcal, usb, and 3.5 to RCA cables, the last one is not necessary but it helps as you'll need one to hook up to a desktop amp), so I'm good.
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