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May 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM Post #13,921 of 48,562
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chicolom said:
Fidelio X1s get here tommorow.
 
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Impromptu meet at Chico's house tomorrow.
 
May 31, 2013 at 10:52 AM Post #13,922 of 48,562
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mtmortar said:
Ok so this might be a really stupid question: When using a amp like the magni connected to a tritton mixamp do you set the mix amp volume to its maximum?
I always have mine set to like half way and use more volume on the magni.  
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You set the tritton to be pretty loud.  I set my dolby amp's volume to be close to what a DAC's line out signal would be.  For my DSS that's pretty much max volume.  For my mixamp it's about 70% volume.
 
You want the magni to be in its normal heavy lifting range on the volume pot.  For my m-stage that's around ~55% on the volume pot.
 
May 31, 2013 at 3:09 PM Post #13,923 of 48,562
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mtmortar said:
I just might get HD 598 because it seems what I am looking for (good soundstage, immersive bass, not harsh treble) just doesn't come in headphones at my prince rang ($250 max). 
 
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The HD598 doesn't really have that, especially not without EQ
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I know, that is what I was saying, cant seem to find anything in my price range with all those attributes. The beyers just have too much treble for me.
 
 
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chicolom said:
 
You set the tritton to be pretty loud.  I set my dolby amp's volume to be close to what a DAC's line out signal would be.  For my DSS that's pretty much max volume.  For my mixamp it's about 70% volume.
 
You want the magni to be in its normal heavy lifting range on the volume pot.  For my m-stage that's around ~55% on the volume pot.
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Thanks for the info about the mixamp volume when using it with an amp, that was really bothering me for a while. 
 
May 31, 2013 at 4:22 PM Post #13,924 of 48,562
The X1s are in. 
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Some quick impressions.
 
(My camera isn't handy, so I'll save the picture taking for my full review later.)
 
The Packaging:  The packaging is pretty nice, and looks fairly classy and clean looking (except for the obnoxious white "Philips" badge).  The box is made of a nice sturdy and thick cardboard that pulls apart like a sleeve with the top part being the lid.  It's a lot more heavy duty then the somewhat flimsy boxes AKG use (more like Astro Gaming's boxes, which are nice).  The headphones and cable are fitted into a velvety-covered molded piece.  Once you lift that piece out you reveal the rest of the cable as well as a nice little paperback booklet detailing the headphone (Philips is clearly proud of this can).
 
The Build:  It should come as no surprise that the headphones themselves are freaking gorgeous.  We all knew they were sexy as hell.  I have to say though, I am a little surprised how small the headband extension is though.  I have pretty small head and I use up about half of the available room.  I can see it being a problem for larger heads.  For me it's pretty much a perfect fit.  The way the outer bars are bent they seem to have some wasted space on either side.  In other words, if you bend the outer bar you probably can free up more room to use.  The headphone itself is incredibly comfy on the head.  The ear pads are soft and quite deep, definitely deeper than the Anniversaries (although slightly smaller diameter I think).  Not quite as deep as the back part of the Q701 pad, but almost - and it's the same depth around the entire pad.  So very good.  The pads aren't angled but the drivers are.  The velour is a different type than AKGs use.  It's sort of shiny looking, but it's seems soft and feels fine.  No itchiness *cough - Audio Techinica*  I think this will be right up there with the most comfortable cans I've used.  I hear bad things about the stock cable, which is a shame because it's quite handsome.  It's of the nylon/braided variety.  The microphonics on the cable are surprisingly loud though.  I don't really care, as I would never walk around outside with an X1
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.  People say you should replace the stock cable though (due to resistance issues or something), and it's easy to do as they simple connect via a 3.5mm jack on the left earcup.  Although I'm not a cable freak I will still probably mess around with cable a little later.
 
Anyways, on to The Sound.  
 
There were three potential deal-breakers I was concerned with before getting them.  They were: how hot would the treble would be?...how recessed would the mids would be?...and would the bass overpower the rest of the sound?   So far, I'm pleased that NONE of those seem to be an issue
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  The bass has a healthy dose of fun and impact, but I don't think it intrudes into "basshead" can territory.  It's hard to tell just how much they have without comparing to my reference AKGs.  It sounded thumpy and impressive with a quick check using some electronic music, but I have a feeling they will also be able to pull of Classical too.  The treble level seems perfectly reasonable.  I was afraid they would be brighter than this, but the treble level seems very tasteful and with some nice air.   The mids sound fine to me as well, not as thick as the AKGs but still nice - pushed back just some in comparison to free up some more room in the soundstage for the bass and air.  Overall a very tasteful balance and presentation.  They remind me a little of Beyer T1s but with more warmth.  The soundstage seems pretty good too.  I did a very quick Dolby Headphone youtube test and the space and imaging sounded good.   Keep in mind this was all quick test done courtesy of my laptop's HP jack - which is pretty horrible.  It's quite a grainy, stuffy, and congested little thing.  The sound will change (for the better) once they're hooked up to my real rig.
 
 
So far I'm VERY pleased with the sound on these.  I have a feeling these will have a wonderful signature for gaming.  I can't wait to get home later and plug them into my real rig to see what they can do.
 
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May 31, 2013 at 4:43 PM Post #13,925 of 48,562
AD900X, A900X, DT 770, or...?
 
 
Do the A900X have good sound stage and positional cues?
What about build quality? I've read that good build quality isn't a forte of open headphones such as the AD700/AD900/X
 
 
I want both immersive and competitive game play.
 
 
 
I mainly listen to older/modern rock/metal, so I want some bass. I'm not a basshead, so nothing overpowering.
 
I don't want a harsh treble.
 
I also like vocals, so I guess good mids would be nice.
 
May 31, 2013 at 4:54 PM Post #13,926 of 48,562
Originally Posted by chicolom /img/forum/go_quote.gif

 
The X1s are in. 
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Some quick impressions.
 
(My camera isn't handy, so I'll save the picture taking for my full review later.)
 
The Packaging:  The packaging is pretty nice, and looks fairly classy and clean looking (except for the obnoxious white "Philips" badge).  The box is made of a nice sturdy and thick cardboard that pulls apart like a sleeve with the top part being the lid.  It's a lot more heavy duty then the somewhat flimsy boxes AKG use (more like Astro Gaming's boxes, which are nice).  The headphones and cable are fitted into a velvety-covered molded piece.  Once you lift that piece out you reveal the rest of the cable as well as a nice little paperback booklet detailing the headphone (Philips is clearly proud of this can).
 
The Build:  It should come as no surprise that the headphones themselves are freaking gorgeous.  We all knew they were sexy as hell.  I have to say though, I am a little surprised how small the headband extension is though.  I have pretty small head and I use up about half of the available room.  I can see it being a problem for larger heads.  For me it's pretty much a perfect fit.  The way the outer bars are bent they seem to have some wasted space on either side.  In other words, if you bend the outer bar you probably can free up more room to use.  The headphone itself is incredibly comfy on the head.  The ear pads are soft and quite deep, definitely deeper than the Anniversaries (although slightly smaller diameter I think).  Not quite as deep as the back part of the Q701 pad, but almost - and it's the same depth around the entire pad.  So very good.  The pads aren't angled but the drivers are.  The velour is a different type than AKGs use.  It's sort of shiny looking, but it's seems soft and feels fine.  No itchiness *cough - Audio Techinica*  I think this will be right up there with the most comfortable cans I've used.  I hear bad things about the stock cable, which is a shame because it's quite handsome.  It's of the nylon/braided variety.  The microphonics on the cable are surprisingly loud though.  I don't really care, as I would never walk around outside with an X1
tongue.gif
.  People say you should replace the stock cable though (due to resistance issues or something), and it's easy to do as they simple connect via a 3.5mm jack on the left earcup.  Although I'm not a cable freak I will still probably mess around with cable a little later.
 
Anyways, on to The Sound.  
 
There were three potential deal-breakers I was concerned with before getting them.  They were: how hot would the treble would be?...how recessed would the mids would be?...and would the bass overpower the rest of the sound?   So far, I'm pleased that NONE of those seem to be an issue
biggrin.gif
  The bass has a healthy dose of fun and impact, but I don't think it intrudes into "basshead" can territory.  It's hard to tell just how much they have without comparing to my reference AKGs.  It sounded thumpy and impressive with a quick check using some electronic music, but I have a feeling they will also be able to pull of Classical too.  The treble level seems perfectly reasonable.  I was afraid they would be brighter than this, but the treble level seems very tasteful and with some nice air.   The mids sound fine to me as well, not as thick as the AKGs but still quite nice - pushed back just slightly in comparison to free up some more room in the soundstage for the bass and air.  Overall a very tasteful balance and presentation.  They remind me a little of Beyer T1s but with more warmth.  The soundstage seems pretty good too.  I did a very quick Dolby Headphone youtube test and the space and imaging sounded good.   Keep in mind this was all quick test done courtesy of my laptop's HP jack - which is pretty horrible.  It's quite a grainy, stuffy, and congested little thing.  The sound will change (for the better) once they're hooked up to my real rig.
 
 
So far I'm VERY pleased with the sound on these.  I have a feeling these will have a wonderful signature for gaming.  I can't wait to get home later and plug them into my real rig to see what they can do.
 
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Really impressive so far. I'm waiting to see how you end up liking the soundstage (compared to the Annie).
 
May 31, 2013 at 5:05 PM Post #13,927 of 48,562
I hope that a certain gentleman is enamored enough with your X1s on loan that he buys them from you outright, rates them a 9+ on all fronts and cancels his order for some no-name electrostats.
 
My only "problem" with the X1s is that for once, Europeans have something cheaper than us. I was reading people getting them for ~130-150 Euros (yes, X1s) and that really put me off from buying them.
 
May 31, 2013 at 11:35 PM Post #13,929 of 48,562
Chico, I need you to bend the hell out of the headband into a longer shape so it can fit my head. I'm not gonna mod your cans. :D
 
May 31, 2013 at 11:42 PM Post #13,930 of 48,562
Can anyone give me some receiver suggestions with Dolby Headphone? I don't need anything too fancy or expensive. I just want a receiver with the DH feature because I am getting some bookshelf speakers for my TV soon... then I can move my M-stage to my desktop.
 
May 31, 2013 at 11:48 PM Post #13,931 of 48,562
Just got a brand new Dss 7.1 and glad that its working properly.  Just something interesting that I observed while doing sound tests with my gr07 mk2.  While using http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Toslink-Cable-Optical-Digital/dp/B004LSNF04/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370058293&sr=8-1&keywords=media+bridge+optical which is gold plated on the ends, sound was warmer and a bit muffled in the top end while the flimsy all plastic optical cable that came with the dss actually sounded a bit better to me and clearer up there.  
 
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