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Alright. You'll have to let me know which mic of mine you like best. I have a particular challenge because I have to speak quietly so I don't disturb others, part of why I got into headphone gaming in general. It's funny, ive been playing Borderlands with my AD700 lately, and i keep freaking out thinking i heard my mom opening the door behind me and exclaiming something angry. That usually only happens for real first thing in the morning as a sort of "Good Morning" and after work as a "I'm home," but of course never actually as friendly wink.gif

I can't play long tonight, but I'll send you a FR.
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Originally Posted by jazh23 View Post

Hi, how about the beyerdynamic DT 235 for gaming?

It'll work, but the soundstage won't be as believable or expansive as some of the favorites around here (CAL!, AD700, DT880 and 990, K/Q701 or Annies, Stax, HE-400, etc).
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Alright. You'll have to let me know which mic of mine you like best. I have a particular challenge because I have to speak quietly so I don't disturb others, part of why I got into headphone gaming in general. It's funny, ive been playing Borderlands with my AD700 lately, and i keep freaking out thinking i heard my mom opening the door behind me and exclaiming something angry. That usually only happens for real first thing in the morning as a sort of "Good Morning" and after work as a "I'm home," but of course never actually as friendly wink.gif

I can't play long tonight, but I'll send you a FR.
It'll work, but the soundstage won't be as believable or expansive as some of the favorites around here (CAL!, AD700, DT880 and 990, K/Q701 or Annies, Stax, HE-400, etc).

I wont be on tonight either. And are you a competitive player?

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I'm pretty good, but I play just for the fun of it biggrin.gif I think Mad gets better scores than me, but then I never try for a nuke or something in CoD.
I would get hella serious if I got sponsored though.
Edited by Evshrug - 1/23/13 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by burritoboy9984 View Post

 

Doing that for me makes the voices sound more recessed and not as clear, plus it is easier to adjust the volume with a mixer like the SLYR's. I scored a cheap NIB Sennheiser x320 on ebay, cut off the headset (which sounded surprisingly open), and modified the mixers cable to accept any headphone with a 4 pole 3.5mm jack.

 

 

Is the isolation part sarcastic? Can't tell.

 

I didn't think it was going to be a problem, but every gun shot my mic indicator lit up :( And I don't really crank the volume.

 

Thanks!

 can you show me a pic of your mod/setup?

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I think Mad gets better scores than me

 

Do you mean sort of like:

 

Fun 7/10

Competitive 9.5/10

Comfort: 7/10

 

I think I'd rate myself: 

Fun 9/10 (never take much too seriously)

Competitive 6/10 (gave a bonus point for teaching team-mates what not to do and drawing enemy fire)

Comfort 9/10 (well padded, huge space between the ears)

 

:P

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

No offense, but it's really hard to read your posts.  

 

No offense taken; I'm sure it is. I really have no clue why I've been typing like that. I don't want to try to figure it out either, lol. I'm just going to do my best to change it. Btw, that was an appropriate picture for Head-Fi. I thought that was quite funny :)

 

Here is my constructive criticism... wink.gif

 

You tend to use very fragmented sentences, which are inherently confusing and hard to follow.  You also post and say things like, "Yes.  Yes.  No.  Sometimes.  Same here.  Sure it does.  Maybe.  I love that too.  I agree..."  Those responses mean nothing to the reader unless the reader takes the time to go back and forth and try to match each response to each question and decipher what you're trying to say.  We're not privy to your thought process you had at the moment you wrote your post, and we don't want jump back and forth between the quoted text and your reply to try and make sense of what you're referring to.


It's pretty confusing (and a little annoying) to try and read them.  To be honest, as soon one of your posts start to fall into the quick, fragmented response patterns that requires me to go back and look for the original questions, I just stop reading and skip ahead to the next post.

 

I try to use whole sentences, but I guess I failed. I totally understand what you're saying about everything though.

 

If you do want to post that way there is a better way to do it.  The best way for others to read and understand that type of post is by replying within the quote itself and bolding your replies.

 

Here's an example (Click to show)

 

What exactly is your setup and what are you after?

 

I'm after a virtual surround tech that will utilize lossless. Optical can't carry 5.1 other than through Dolby Digital. HDMI is the only way to go for the PS3, hence me wanting to use a receiver. Also want to mention I'm going to be using the Antlion Modmic in my final setup.

 

From what I gather you're looking for the best gaming audio from a console?

 

Yes, best gaming audio from a console.

 

Also music from the PC?

 

Yes, I love music more than anything. The music will come from the PC.

 

Are they in the same room (able to share hardware?)

 

Yes, they are in the same room.

 

What have you actually tried with your system?

 

Tritton AX Pro, Psyko Carbon 5.1, and a Yammy receiver (the one I have) coupled with the Q and K702 Annie.

 

Have you tried a mixamp? Chances are it would solve 90% of your gaming issues (in conjunction with a headphone amp to power the K702's)

 

No, I can't use the mixamp. It's DD5.1. Everything I've tried so far has been lacking, with my current receiver being the best.

 

^ See how much easier that is to read?  There is a reason Q&A interviews are written and formatted this way on both websites and magazines wink.gif  Sure it takes a little more time for you to write, but it takes infinitely less time for us to read and understand your reply.

 

Love it. I thought of replying within the quote itself before, but for some reason never did. Derp. I know this may sound irrelevant, but for the past week almost, I've been feeling like Bradley Cooper from Limitless. It's awesome. It's also a lot to handle. I'm just now understanding how to make it work for me, as I was quite behind before (one of the reasons I've been gone so long). I've learned a lot in the past few days. It's much easier to read. Thank you very much. Well, I really don't care if it takes me longer to write, as I want to make it easy as possible for people to understand and reply to what I'm saying.

 

It's also NOT necessary to quote and reply to every little comment that people make. 

 

When people post, they assume others are going to read it and acknowledge what they say.  They don't need always need a "verbal" affirmation for everything they've said.  So, it's NOT necessary to go through and multi-quote everybody's posts acknowledging everything they wrote.  Do that in your head.  

 

When you post massive multi-quotes and just say things like "Yes......I agree.....Good point.....Interesting..." - that's unnecessary posting.  Given the frequency in which you post in the aforementioned format, some of your posts come across being empty/unproductive/spammy/etc, although I'm sure you don't mean them to.  Just assume that everyone else already assumes that everyone else is going to read their posts.  For example, I assume you just read that last sentence twice, but that's a rhetorical assumption and I don't actually need an answer - silent acknowledgement will do. smile.gif

 

You've really dumbed it down so much to the point that I wonder if you think I'm mentally challenged or that my parents/teachers didn't teach me how to converse properly, but I appreciate the input. I realize there are other avenues of response. I can agree with you on that, the short worded responses, though. I really do not mean for them to be any of that. Lol. Couldn't help it.

 

Personally, I typically l only post when I have something meaningful or productive to say.  When I do post, I take the time to write my posts carefully, I choose the words purposefully, and I mean what I say.

 

 

Anyways, that's my posting advice.  I apologize if I sound like an A-hole

You say you learn quickly, so lets see it!  regular_smile%20.gif

 

That's wonderful. It's great advice. You don't. I do ;) It's not going to be perfect, but it's going to be better.

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Originally Posted by Impulse View Post


Amazon and iTunes files use a similar bitrate tbh, even though I think they're sorta derided amongst many around here. I think some of them use or may have used VBR in the past (which shifts the bitrate throughout the track as deemed necessary), but it shouldn't matter if properly encoded. I've no clue where each company pulls their stuff from tho, I imagine that's covered by the licensing deals with the studios.
I have no clue why it's adding these lines, but it's really annoying, lol.
Quality of the original recoding probably has far more of an impact than the end stage encoding, and there's a lot of poorly recorded/mastered stuff out there these days (not even these days either, it's always been an artist vs engineer dynamic at play).
Anyway, no you couldn't convert a FLAC file into a low bitrate MP3 without losing information, that wasn't what I said at all. If you did that you'd lose data because of the target rate, but not because the original is missing any. You could rip a CD to FLAC and burn it back without losing anything in the process tho. If you were to rip it to MP3, anything you do afterwards incurs a loss.
No, you're right. I understand. Thanks for the clarification. Then this means that all the music on MOG should be basically lossless, even with it being 320kbps (which is near CD quality anyway) instead of FLAC. I say this because MOG gets their music directly from the record/artist? companies.

You can rip a CD to FLAC and then re-encode to a high enough bitrate MP3 without an audible loss, or you could go from FLAC to another lossless format without any loss whatsoever.
Well, this just confirms what I just said then. A quick search also showed that 320kbps is the highest MP3 bitrate.

It's not a very complicated concept if you do five minutes of reading and take a second to understand it. There's simply different types of compression and despite the stigma some compression algorithms don't alter the content at all, they're obviously much less effective at actually compressing tho, it's just simple math.

You lose data with MP3 because of the form of compression used, when I say you can covert a FLAC file into something else without incurring a penalty it's meant in contrast to an MP3 where you've already taking a penalty by going to MP3 and any further re-encode compiles the loss. The Wikipedia article on lossless compression probably explains it better without going into all these possibly confusing examples.
Pretty easy indeed. Well, which compression algorithms would you suggest that do not alter content? This last part, hmm, so although MOG is losing data by going MP3, it's not incurring an audible loss since it's getting it from the source and using the 320kbps bitrate?

 

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Chicolom,

I think you said it while sounding much less like an a-hole than me. I was worried I might make things worse, but I felt something had to be said.

 

He did very well. Regardless, I appreciate the input from you both, as well as everyone else.

 

SoAmusing,

My goal was/is not to flame you (which is easier on forums than Xbox), I want you to realize that the length, tone (you often seem to be talking to yourself), and statements that sound like you're claiming to be an expert, are the things that rub me the wrong way. Assumptions and questions aren't so bad, I learn all the time too and I think it's important to be open to change your mind about something which is something you do well too, but in the context of someone who plays games on a console in a dorm or their parent's house that finds this thread and asks "what's a good setup?" then a lot of those things that don't meet your goals MAY be an entirely reasonable setup for them. You know, what if someone observes this thread thinking "I want a good headset" (the main visitor), but they see posts that only $450 headphones plus $200 receivers plus $200 amps, plus a device for chat mixing, they're gonna think we're nuts and there's nothing reasonable for them, and decide to stick with some TB x12's in stereo. But there are lower-budget options for impressive audio, and upgrade paths. Such a guest may not tell from your post and explanations that these are the next steps up for you.

I will say, in your favor, that you speak with enthusiasm and mostly positively. Neither do you try to hurt other's feelings, which I may have done to you. I apologize for hurt feelings, but I would ask that you continue to mature your posting "style," I don't want to be mean but I thought you might need examples instead of you just not knowing what some people are reacting to. I want you to know I'm not saying these things to feel like a "big man" or some sort of bully, I just want change so we can get back to the hobby and focus on that.

 

Talking to myself? Okay, lol. I realize this, although my intention was not to upset you. I'm certainly no expert. Thank you; I pride myself on being open. I know that my ideal setup isn't for everyone. I thought I had said that it was for just me? I don't remember. I can see that, but what a travesty it would be to stick with some TB x12's. I agree with that as well, and once again, thank you. I am positive. The enthusiasm I guess is just a byproduct. I don't know. If you didn't try to hurt my feelings, don't apologize. You're fine. I really am trying to change here. I know you're not, but wow, to think that I've really derailed people from the hobby is sad. I think that's extreme, but somewhat true. It was never my intention.

 

BurritoBoy,

I wasn't challenging you to be wrong, I will read your link and if in general I find out how to use a PC soundcard to play console audio, I'll tell you how. I was referring to the inclusion of an optical-in on sound cards at all, here's the fastest example I found first, from the cheapest Recon3D soundcard. Note the label for optical-in:

I am not saying I know how to do it and that there may not be some kind of performance hit, but if you consider that the console processors like mixamp and Recon3D USB essentially are external soundcards and work very well processing optical cable fed 5.1, there ought to be a way with a PC soundcard. It just boggles my mind that it isn't working for you and probably others, and shame on Creative and Asus if they can't make it easy as a mixamp or something. I'm not sending you money though, lol.

 

I have no clue why it didn't work either, but I do know that he tried to hook up the Ps3 to the soundcard via HDMI, and it just did not work no matter what he tried. I'd like to know if the Ps3 could be hooked up to a soundcard on a computer, utilizing the benefits of it though.

 

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Originally Posted by raband View Post

Dude, Don't worry yourself too much.

 

As you said, you're new to the forum stuff.

 

I've been on a few where someone makes a bit of a rough entrance, only to become well regarded once they feel their way around and get with the vibe/lingo :)

 

I did worry just a little bit too much that day. I'm glad you remember me saying I'm new, lol. Well, hopefully that becomes me!

 

If you looked at the posts as more like conversations and respond as you would in a real life chat rather than a text list it maybe a bit easier to follow. By doing that you can also dispense with most of the quoted text and weave the info into your reply and add your own questions/info as well.

 

I know it will be, and why I haven't done this till now has baffled me.

 

e.g.: Girlfriend asks you "Tomorrow are you driving into the city? If you are are you able to swing by the market and grab milk, coffee and something for us for dinner. Mum needs a lift in too. Can you grab the dry cleaning on the way home and let the dog out and the cat in when you get there?

 

Currently you'd respond by quoting your girlfriend and replying: "Yes, yes, ok, what? Ok, when, goodness lol. Ok, yes, yes."

 

A better way (for the girlfriend to understand you) may be something more like: "Yep - I'm driving into the city and will grab that stuff. Pasta for dinner?. Will grab mum, what time and where from? Will get the dry cleaning and sort the pets out. Need anything else from town? Ok if I stop in at Bob's for a couple of beers on the way home?"


By going the conversation route of replying you've included all relevant info from the original request (without having to quote it all back so she knows what points you're replying to), given a reply that can be understood even without the person having to know or read the first request, added in some info you're unsure of, invited a reply to the bits you need info on and also managed to score a leave pass for a few beers by being such a devoted boyfriend :P

 

Really hope I don't sound condescending , just trying to help make things a bit easier for you to get your thoughts down in a way that can be used to help others respond etc and also help us to read what you are meaning.

 

LOL. That's a great example. It's just crazy how people have gone to such lengths for me. I do appreciate it. The stupid thing is that, in text messages via phone, all I can do is reply back. I can't customize the post like I'm doing now, so I'm forced to reply in the "better way". It's nothing I'm new to, but I guess I just overlooked it here. Idk. By no means did you sound condescending. I really appreciate that you cared that you may. It all helps man.

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MUCH better, SoAmusing  beerchug.gif

 

You were right, you do learn quickly wink.gif
 

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Wall o' text. Headache inducing...
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Tambien necessito un cable largo para el PS3, porque el hodio wireless es muy lento. rolleyes.gif

I got a 20mbps connection which should be decent, but the PS3's wireless capabilities sucks. It takes a hotdamn eternity to download stuff from PSN. At least my connection is good for gaming. I'm constantly the host in MW2 and BLOPS.
Which PS3 do you have? I 2nd the download thing. Same with my connection for gaming. What ISP do you use?

My router has gigabyt ports, so that should be beneficial. Just... running a cable from my room to the living room seems like overkill.
Does it even matter when you're not getting 1gbps though? Wouldn't a 100mbps router do just fine? I don't know a whole lot about this stuff. The PS3 can utilize this though. It's in the network settings (manual settings I believe). PS3 set to 1000 mbps Full Duplex Wired I think.

 

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Huh, and here I thought their usual shipping cost to Puerto Rico was a bit high... Guess it's actually about standard for them. Their prices are so low tho (and stuff ships out so fast) that even with the shipping cost most things usually end up being cheaper there regardless.
Why is it doing the line thing again? I think their shipping is pretty fair, especially considering what you said, as well as online coupons. Yeah, same day shipping if placed before 5PST I think.

They've got pretty good service too, last year I ordered two long Displayport cables and after a couple of weeks it looked like the order was lost, so I called in and they resent it with two day shipping. Turns out both packages showed up on the same day, and when I called again they told me I could just keep the extra cables.
Dude, how honest of you :) The weird thing is though, the same thing happened to me. I ordered something from overseas on Ebay, told the guy it never came (it was a cheap thing so he send another). Well, I checked the mail one day, and both of them were in there. By chance, did you use USPS?
It's totally worth it IMO, you can then get a small gigabit switch the size of Whopper (they're like $35) and hook it up at the end of the cable so you can hook up multiple devices via gigabit in the same room, speed up transfers/streaming between them etc.
I guess it's useless one gets 1gbps up or down.

 
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Do you honestly have to respond to and quote everything? I've never seen someone use so many quotes on a forum, and I've been on forums basically for 12 years.

I mean, damn. Lol. Just let some of it go.
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

I've got some new toys today! (No, I didn't take the image upside-down; blame Dropbox wanting to rotate my pictures for NO reason.)

 

Not pictured is the capture card I've been waiting on, which coincidentally arrived today; I'll be sure to put that through its paces soon, with my various consoles (but mainly the PS3).

 

First impressions with the HE-400 itself are that it's very well-built and FEELS like you'd expect of a $400 headphone, it's a lot lighter than I was expecting, and it also clamps a bit less than expected...but I would have liked some slightly bigger cups or earpads, as the top and bottom of my earlobe does noticeably touch the pads, which doesn't happen with a Stax Lambda's noticeably taller earcups. Overall, good marks for comfort.

 

For sound presentation, the mids don't sound painfully recessed to me like I feared from some other people's impressions. Bass and treble notes are a bit more prominent than vocals, though, in contrast to the SR-Lambda's "vocals first" sort of presentation.

 

Soundstage is noticeably less "airy" and vast than a typical Lambda, but still pretty good. To be fair, the Lambda line bests even the AD700 for soundstaging in my experience, which is no small feat.

 

Sense of clarity seems pretty good thus far, with voices coming in mostly unobstructed and treble having some "sparkle" if it's called for. I guess that's something planar driver structures tend to excel at in general, whether driven with magnetic or electrostatic force.

 

(Also, there were TWO sets of velour pads for some reason. Just goes to show how much MLE loves velour pads!)

 

The ODAC is also surprisingly small. I've seen 15-stick packs of gum bigger than this thing. Definitely a good choice for portable use. I'll get to testing that later, after I've familiarized myself with the HE-400's sound presentation.


Yayy, finally, you got to experience some other phones, lol. Can you not just rotate the picture back? Wow, more high marks for the Lambda series. Only makes me want to own one that much more.

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Thus confirming my last post.
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

MUCH better, SoAmusing  beerchug.gif

 

You were right, you do learn quickly wink.gif

I can't rate peoples' stuff anymore, lol. Thank you very much though. I still have more to learn, but it's better. I do, although it's a simple concept. Look at my sig though? I mentioned you very early on in my thread. I'd like to know what you think of it.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Do you honestly have to respond to and quote everything? I've never seen someone use so many quotes on a forum, and I've been on forums basically for 12 years.

I mean, damn. Lol. Just let some of it go.

Do you have to be so sensitive? Headache inducing? Everything? I realize it's still a lot, but give me a break. No, I don't have to. I talk a lot. People are "my thing". I'll try to cut down the quotes beforehand, as some of it I'm not even replying to. Maybe a PM will do. Idk. I'm still working on it. I realize your email or whatever may be blowing up with the posts, but, idk what to tell you. It's really not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I don't mean to take over your thread. I'm just trying to be a part of, learn, and add to the discussion. Anyway, well, I'm different. Call me weird if you'd like. I manage my time well, so I have time to do this. I'm also a thorough dude. Can't help it. You could call me a completionist, but that has since changed. It's better now. Eh, I don't know how to end this, but more quotes are coming. You'll have to live with it I guess.


Edited by SoAmusing777 - 1/24/13 at 12:59am
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Look at my sig though? I mentioned you very early on in my thread. I'd like to know what you think of it.

 

Interesting.  I already know about all the stuff you mentioned, but it could be useful for people new to the "internet purchasing" though...

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