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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Okay 1, not even close to subtle enough.  And 2, Head-fi is cool with Massdrop now.  You can talk about them freely.

Thats what I said to myself right now lol

 

Anyways.....

 

SHP9500

 

Those of you who are on a budget and want to play competitively, this is a good alternative that doesnt require amping and has a detachable cable so you can use the vmoda boompro

 

I have it, but have not used it since I got my K7XX lol I love the sound from the K7XX.

 

But if I really want to play more competitively, the SHP9500 would do very well for a cheap price.

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Originally Posted by PixelSkills View Post

Is there such thing as an inline amp that boosts the volume that is cheap? I have the new astro mixamp and got the x1 but the volume is just to damn low and I cant afford anything else. Or even a usb dongle that had an in and out that is cheap?

 

Are you on XB1 or PS4?  Check the volume settings on the console.

 

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Originally Posted by lenroot77 View Post

Just curious who turns their Dolby headphone/sbx off for 2d side scrollers?

Btw guacamelee is only 5 bucks for ps4 for this weekends flash sale. Fab "metroid-vania" game!

 

Guacamelee was free on XB1 with GWG a few months back.  It's a GREAT game, even my wife likes playing it.  :)

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So having my Sound Blaster X7 with my HD 700's for about a week I can say this. I love the sound quality of the unit, music and gaming sound great. As this is my first dabble in virtual surround sound all I can say as that I am unimpressed. I completely dislike how my games sound with SBX enabled. I feel like the game looses all of its fidelity and I find it harder to pinpoint where enemy's are because everything seems so airy and ambient sounds are so present that I feel like footsteps and gunfire are lost to background noise. I have been using this in stereo mode as if I had my headphones plugged right into my PC. I have played Battlefield 4, Titanfall, COD AW and CS Go with SBX enabled and disabled and I am finding no advantages with it on.

 

I am thinking about returning the X7 as I am not using any of the features, I feel like I should invest in a Schiit stack, O2/Odac or a cheaper amp/dac as that's basically what I am using this X7 for at this point. Maybe I am doing something wrong or my HD 700's just don't do a good job with SBX but I cannot stand having it enabled..

 

I enable 5.1 in windows, headphone mode in the X7 control panel, have surround sound only enabled at multiple levels and turn on surround sound in the games I am playing and it sounds like even my footsteps are feint and far away. I dislike it a lot.

 

I hope it is the SBX that I don't like and its not the HD 700's for gaming that is causing the issue. I love them for music and for gaming in stereo but with surround sound enabled the games become non immersive, hollow and sounds feel too far apart.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by inseconds99 View Post

 

I am thinking about returning the X7 as I am not using any of the features, I feel like I should invest in a Schiit stack, O2/Odac or a cheaper amp/dac as that's basically what I am using this X7 for at this point. Maybe I am doing something wrong or my HD 700's just don't do a good job with SBX but I cannot stand having it enabled..

 

 

I hope it is the SBX that I don't like and its not the HD 700's for gaming that is causing the issue. I love them for music and for gaming in stereo but with surround sound enabled the games become non immersive, hollow and sounds feel too far apart.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Algorithms like SBX and Dolby Headphone are based on an "average" dummy head that may or may not match up well with your own head and ear structure, so it's perfectly possible that you may not get an eye-popping experience from them. Headphones interact a bit with the effect: for virtualization under OpenAL, my 3 Senn cans need slightly different profiles for the best surround feeling, although there are some profiles that work pretty well for all 3. Not having an X7, I can't speak for customization options for tailoring the surround sensation, but someone will hopefully speak up.

 

I like the 700s fine for gaming; at least as much as the 598s but not as much as the 800s (go figure). They work fine with Dolby Headphone for me; haven't tried them with SBX. If you listen to SBX demos on youtube, do you get a better surround feeling? You may also want to try out demos for Dolby Headphone and OpenAL, just to get a sense for how virtual surround sounds. Here's a demo of Rapture3D's version of OpenAL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx4k8qewC_8

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Originally Posted by burritoboy9984 View Post

FYI for anyone looking for a very good entry level headphone for gaming, that site that buys mass amounts of stuff and drops the price substantially has the Philips SPH9500 for $70 + $7 shipping. These are excellent headphones for gaming that have a detachable 3.5mm cable so you can use a BoomPro.

Erik

For gaming the sph 9500 are better than the superlux?
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Originally Posted by PixelSkills View Post

I have the volume all the way up and have it turned all the way to game. Its adequete like this but I feel I shouldnt have to turn it all the way up like this.

You must be deaf if you have it maxed like that. Sorry.

Either that or you somehow have in game volume too low, or PC software volume too low, etc.

The Fiio E5/E6 will NOT help.

What people need to understand is that in order to achieve a considerable volume boost, you need something many times more powerful than your source. Something 2x as powerful can only achieve like a 2db boost (which is nothing) over whatever is powering it currently (i.e. Mixamp). You need something like an E12 at minimum, IMHO, for some headroom.

A bad example, you can have five Fiio E6s attached, and they will still not give you a good volume boost. Power doesn't work that way.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - Yesterday at 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

You must be deaf if you have it maxed like that. Sorry.

Either that or you somehow have in game volume too low, or PC software volume too low, etc.

The Fiio E5/E6 will NOT help.

What people need to understand is that in order to achieve a considerable volume boost, you need something many times more powerful than your source. Something 2x as powerful can only achieve like a 2db boost (which is nothing) over whatever is powering it currently (i.e. Mixamp). You need something like an E12 at minimum, IMHO, for some headroom.

A bad example, you can have five Fiio E6s attached, and they will still not give you a good volume boost. Power doesn't work that way.

There is no in game volume on the ps4 theres no volume settings period that would change the volume through the optical port.
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Im not sure why the Phillips x1 isnt getting enough power but its not. Has anyone tried the hyper x cloud
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Im not sure why the Phillips x1 isnt getting enough power but its not. Has anyone tried the hyper x cloud

Just ordered the hyperx cloud today as I am not a fan of my HD 700's while gaming. I will check back when I get them and have a chance to try them. I was going to wait 2 weeks when the new cloud 2's come out but it looks like all they did was make the mic a littler better and add a bs use sound card. Although I'd rather have the better mic, I'm hoping that the mic that comes on the cloud can be bought separately at some point.

Now I'm looking for a portable headphone to use with my iPhone and fulfill my hip hop and edm needs. I don't want to to use a portable amp so I'm down to 2 headphones. The pro700mk2 or the beats solo 2. Going to pose this question in the headphone forum in a little bit to get some opinions.
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Originally Posted by PixelSkills View Post

Im not sure why the Phillips x1 isnt getting enough power but its not. Has anyone tried the hyper x cloud

 

Yup. Good headset if that's what you need.

 

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Originally Posted by inseconds99 View Post

Just ordered the hyperx cloud today as I am not a fan of my HD 700's while gaming. I will check back when I get them and have a chance to try them. I was going to wait 2 weeks when the new cloud 2's come out but it looks like all they did was make the mic a littler better and add a bs use sound card. Although I'd rather have the better mic, I'm hoping that the mic that comes on the cloud can be bought separately at some point.

 

The HyperX Cloud is a completely different beast. But the mic that's on it is perfectly fine, you don't need to worry about the upgraded version.

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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Yup. Good headset if that's what you need.


The HyperX Cloud is a completely different beast. But the mic that's on it is perfectly fine, you don't need to worry about the upgraded version.

I hope so, if you read my opinions a few posts up you'll see why I went in the exact opposite direction from the HD 700's.
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Yup. Good headset if that's what you need.


The HyperX Cloud is a completely different beast. But the mic that's on it is perfectly fine, you don't need to worry about the upgraded version.

Do you use the hyper x cloud with the astro mixamp? Does it give it enough power?
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Originally Posted by PixelSkills View Post

Do you use the hyper x cloud with the astro mixamp? Does it give it enough power?
I'm willing to bet that the Hyper X can run fine with the astro. Mix amp. As for the X1, they should run fine as well. When I had them, I used them with my friends astro and they sounded great. Something is wrong with the either astro or X1.....
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Creative is selling the Limited Edition X7 on Amazon.

I asked for the headphone power ratings at varying ohms, as well as for Creative to clarify the standard X7s's output impedance (Evs, DO NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. Let them answer).

Considering the new one has a 1ohm output, I have a feeling its gonna reduce some warmth, which I dont want happening.

If Creative can at least tell us how much juice both the standard and LE version is pumping out at varying impedance, it would be nice to know, and see how worthwhile it is to get over the standard model.
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