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post #15106 of 32016

So... I'm kinda annoyed with my DSS. Mostly just a preference thing. I got my new headphones and was testing them out (yes, my New V-MODA M-100), but it's been a little while since I used a detailed headphone with the DSS (the KSC are pretty detailed, but not on the same level as the Q701 or M-100), and the echos were really apparent last night. Not super impressed playing Splinter Cell: Conviction on surround cues either. Add to that, I think the M-100 are more sensitive since they are lower impedance than the Q701, so I have a fair/distracting during gameplay amount of background noise when I connect to my external amps. OI think I'm going to buy back a Recon3D USB... NAmeless, you still got yours for sale?

post #15107 of 32016
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post
I think I'm going to buy back a Recon3D USB... Nameless, you still got yours for sale?

 

I do. It's sitting right here, waiting for you.

 

I could use the extra funds to recoup the costs of a major purchase...you'll all see soon.

post #15108 of 32016
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

 

I do. It's sitting right here, waiting for you.

 

I could use the extra funds to recoup the costs of a major purchase...you'll all see soon.

Just... for moi?

Hope you're enjoying your major purchase... soon! I'll let you know, paycheck Friday. Everybody's happy then, right?

BTW I don't think the DSS is bad, it's just for my ears, I'm not satisfied. Still wish Creative would just make a Soundblaster Z USB.

post #15109 of 32016
if your getting alot of background noise have you tried using an isolator of some kind? should clean it right up.
post #15110 of 32016

Just got my xonar dg yesterday. Can someone share best dolby headphones settings for using with CAL! ?

I already know how it works. just use 8 channel setting, 44.1khz (no more is needed), turn on dolby headphone. Do i want virtual speaker shifter ? What dh is best for games and what for music ?

post #15111 of 32016

dolby headphone comes off as a gimmick to me. closing my eyes while listening to sounds in-game, sounds still sounded either left or right with headphones (AD700 + Xonar DG).

post #15112 of 32016
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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post

dolby headphone comes off as a gimmick to me. closing my eyes while listening to sounds in-game, sounds still sounded either left or right with headphones (AD700 + Xonar DG).

It might be your ears differing a lot from the average. It helps IMO.

 

Anywayz, I need a recommendation. Here's some different options for me.

 

  1. I have a PCI slot free and I do also have a PCI-e slot for my wifi card (whatever it's called), but I could buy a PCI wifi card if necessary. So, I need a sound card with coax out and dolby or cmss-3d.
  2. Some external sound card or the like that preferably work with both my pc and ps3. I would like it to have coax out too. 
  3. Plain and simple usb to coax converter

 

My situation is like this: I have a ps3 with optical out, my pc with optical out. My DAC has a coax and an optical input. I want both ps3 and pc connected to the DAC at the same time. I would like to have some virtual surround sound now that I need a device for getting coax out of either my pc or ps3 anyway. It shouldn't necessarily cost me much more I guess, so why  not?

 

You can apply surround sound dsp's and stuff when you are going digital out of a soundcard, right?


Edited by davidsh - 7/13/13 at 5:05pm
post #15113 of 32016
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It might be your ears differing a lot from the average. It helps IMO.

Anywayz, I need a recommendation. Here's some different options for me.
  1. I have a PCI slot free and I do also have a PCI-e slot for my wifi card (whatever it's called), but I could buy a PCI wifi card if necessary. So, I need a sound card with coax out and dolby or cmss-3d.
  2. Some external sound card or the like that preferably work with both my pc and ps3. I would like it to have coax out too. 
  3. Plain and simple usb to coax converter

My situation is like this: I have a ps3 with optical out, my pc with optical out. My DAC has a coax and an optical input. I want both ps3 and pc connected to the DAC at the same time.

That is something we would all like!
Not sure if such device exists honestly.... Other than the ones mentioned before
post #15114 of 32016
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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post

dolby headphone comes off as a gimmick to me. closing my eyes while listening to sounds in-game, sounds still sounded either left or right with headphones (AD700 + Xonar DG).

I am not sure on it too as of yet.

I know that 2ch + hf in xonar control panel is purest mode. No eq, no surround etc. best for music.

 

Tried playing couple of games like Saints Row The Third which support DTS but I have mixed results.

 

6ch, 8ch - I see no difference. At least I think

dolby headphone dh1/2/3 - 1 is to narrow, 2 seems about ok but it does lil reverb and 3 is bigger reverb room.

 

7.1 speaker shift is a mystery to me tho. Even tho speakers are in default position, sound seems louder with it turned on together with 8ch dh. It removes the reverb effect or just makes the sounds louder. The music plays kinda cool with it

 

one more thing. Use original asus drivers from their site (2011) or uni xonar ?


Edited by HiCZoK - 7/13/13 at 5:21pm
post #15115 of 32016
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Originally Posted by HiCZoK View Post

I am not sure on it too as of yet.

I know that 2ch + hf in xonar control panel is purest mode. No eq, no surround etc. best for music.

 

Tried playing couple of games like Saints Row The Third which support DTS but I have mixed results.

 

6ch, 8ch - I see no difference. At least I think

dolby headphone dh1/2/3 - 1 is to narrow, 2 seems about ok but it does lil reverb and 3 is bigger reverb room.

 

7.1 speaker shift is a mystery to me tho. Even tho speakers are in default position, sound seems louder with it turned on together with 8ch dh. It removes the reverb effect or just makes the sounds louder. The music plays kinda cool with it

In general you should only enable DH as far as I know... The windows output to the sound card should be set to 5.1 or 7.1. Whether to use dolby 1/2/3 is up to u. 1 is recording room, 3 is concert hall or somehting like that.

 

Whay is hf?

 

Dunno what to chooes ingame, but I guess it should be 5.1 or 7.1  audio or something like that if the game supports it.

post #15116 of 32016
I'm gonna guess that hf stands for high fidelity.
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if your getting alot of background noise have you tried using an isolator of some kind? should clean it right up.
Not to sound dumb, but what is an isolator and how do I get one? The odd part is I don't hear these things with my Q701 or KSC75.
post #15117 of 32016
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I'm gonna guess that hf stands for high fidelity.
Not to sound dumb, but what is an isolator and how do I get one? The odd part is I don't hear these things with my Q701 or KSC75.


http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10844&cs_id=1084402&p_id=6909&seq=1&format=2


Something like that. Generally hum/buzz/hiss/noises are caused by ground loops and devices such at that linked above can basically make it silent.

There are different ones from the one I linked but basically something like that. There is debate however as to whether or not using an isolator degrades sound quality a little bit, but I don't personally think it does.
post #15118 of 32016
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

So... I'm kinda annoyed with my DSS. Mostly just a preference thing. I got my new headphones and was testing them out (yes, my New V-MODA M-100), but it's been a little while since I used a detailed headphone with the DSS (the KSC are pretty detailed, but not on the same level as the Q701 or M-100), and the echos were really apparent last night. Not super impressed playing Splinter Cell: Conviction on surround cues either. Add to that, I think the M-100 are more sensitive since they are lower impedance than the Q701, so I have a fair/distracting during gameplay amount of background noise when I connect to my external amps. OI think I'm going to buy back a Recon3D USB... NAmeless, you still got yours for sale?

Impedance doesn't necessarily correlate with sensitivity but yeah the M-100's are way more sensitive than the K 701. The observed background noise means your amp has a high noise floor.

post #15119 of 32016
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Impedance doesn't necessarily correlate with sensitivity but yeah the M-100's are way more sensitive than the K 701. The observed background noise means your amp has a high noise floor.
True, but I thought the Koss KSC75 were relatively sensitive too. And I might expect a fairly noticeable noise floor from the cheap DSS and tube amp, but not between iPod with LO adapter (L11) + E12. Oh well. I think that another contributing factor is that I can't find my short FiiO interconnects, so I used my Shareplay cable (still bundled together in a neat loop) between iPod and FiiO amp, that probably created magnetic and possibly other electronic interference (you know how you make an electromagnet?), and right now I've got a mess of criss-crossing power and interconnect wires for my Xbox, DSS, Tube amp (each of those have power cables), and my M-100 headphones. I'm probably moving into an apartment next weekend, so I'll finally have a living space I care about than the very temporary feeling I have in my mom's house, and I'll be careful with cable management and setup.
post #15120 of 32016

^ Ah okay. Yeah many cables crisscrossing could be an issue too.

 

@ MLE

 

How did the the SR-407's imaging compare to that of the Q 701 for gaming? I just ordered a new SRS-2170 (amp + earspeakers) from Japan for $590 USD and I'm eager to try it out for gaming in comparison to my 8-bump headband K 701.

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