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Basically the same reason why the Q701 is slightly better at imaging than the Annies. The Annie has a fuller sound. Fuller sounding headphones don't image as well as thinner sounding cans. However, positional cues are the same. Just less space to move around in with the Annies.
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Ya.

 

But the X1s are a lot more fun then the Q701s while doing it.   L3000.gif

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Portable cans tend to have pleather.... which is NOT ideal for the Florida sun (you know this).

 

Yeah, that is why I chose the Amperior when I had it. It's velourish pads were definitely a plus but still not fit for outside use. If I were to purchase the Momentum, I would mostly use it on the bus and at school (as I did with the Amperior).

 

I'm glad I have my IEMs for when I have to sit in the sun at the bus stop tongue_smile.gif


Edited by Change is Good - 6/16/13 at 12:38am
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I have $400 I don't know what to do with. Hmm...

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I know this is premature, but the X1 WILL by my future recommendation for those with $300 or so that want a great all rounder with great bass, soundstage, clarity, comfort, easy-ish to drive...

The Annie is my other recommendation, for those who want a bit better blanace, vocal clarity, warmth, and smoothness. Still they aren't as easy to drive as the X1.
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So I went to BB and demoed the Momentum. Unless you are a 5 year old or midget, I don't see how those can be over the ear for ANY adult, lol.

They are definitely on ear for me. They sounded nice, and looked great in person too. Not good enough for me to spend $350 for them though. The on ear fit would probably make them uncomfortable after a period of time. The pads are amazingly soft though.

The 558 still impresses me for the price. The K550 still disappoints, as does the A900x. Yuck.

Got to try the Denon D600... I liked it, though it's definitely boomy and sibilant.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/16/13 at 9:27am
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So I went to BB and demoed the Momentum. Unless you are a 5 year old or midget, I don't see how those can be over the ear for ANY adult, lol.

They are definitely on ear for me. They sounded nice, and looked great in person too. Not good enough for me to spend $350 for them though. The on ear fit would probably make them uncomfortable after a period of time. The pads are amazingly soft though.

The 558 still impresses me for the price. The K550 still disappoints, as does the A900x. Yuck.

Got to try the Denon D600... I liked it, though it's definitely boomy and sibilant.
I have normal sized ears and that's THE reason I didn't get the Momentum. It's just crazy they are calling them full cups. They sound great, but if I can't wear them for more than 10 minutes AND they're a fair amount more costly then their competitors, they get marked off the list for me. You really should try the 1R. I know you're thinking they're too big. They aren't. They don't sound as good as the Momentum does, but the overall package is seriously perfect for a portable can.
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The Momentum was bordering on being too big. The 1R is bigger. It also has similar dimensions as the MDR-7506/V6 which I did try. Still bigger than I'd want.

If the ES7/ES700 was comfy, that'd be endgame portable for me. But they just aren't.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/16/13 at 11:44am
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Can't get any smaller than a good pair of IEMs. Is that something to look at?

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I hate IEMs. They hurt my ears. The only tips that don't are Marshmallow tips or Comply foams, and those go stale in a hurry, not to mention muddies up the sound.


My goodness, I am IN LOVE with the X1. I'm kicking myself in the ass for not caving in on the impulse to get them ages ago. Could've saved quite a bit of money. They are literally what I have always wanted. The only thing that will make me upgrade from them is for another open headphone with the same signature with more refinement. Good luck finding one.

They aren't perfect (after spending so much time with the LCD2 and HE400, I can hear that the bass isn't as well textured and refined on the X1, nor are the mids anywhere near as special as the 650 and Annies), but they do what I want, and do it well. For $300, you'd have to be crazy to pass it up if you're looking for an open, bassy can.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View PostMy goodness, I am IN LOVE with the X1. I'm kicking myself in the ass for not caving in on the impulse to get them ages ago. Could've saved quite a bit of money. They are literally what I have always wanted. The only thing that will make me upgrade from them is for another open headphone with the same signature with more refinement. Good luck finding one.

I believe fellows on this thread have repeatedly affirmed that they would be the definitive headphone for you.

 

My question is whether the X1 satiates your nostalgia for the D7000.

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So I went to BB and demoed the Momentum. Unless you are a 5 year old or midget, I don't see how those can be over the ear for ANY adult, lol.

They are definitely on ear for me. They sounded nice, and looked great in person too. Not good enough for me to spend $350 for them though. The on ear fit would probably make them uncomfortable after a period of time. The pads are amazingly soft though.

 

How would you compare its sound to the MD? Would you say they are completely different or a good portable alternate?

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That "someone else" is right here, you know...and I can personally attest to the Recon3D USB in question not being broken or anything. (Well, there was a lead weight slab rattling around in there because the screw stud keeping it in place snapped, but it was 100% functional, no PCB damage or anything.) It might just need a driver/firmware update for all I know, but the February 2013 drivers didn't change much, if anything.

Anyway, time to put BF3's audio to the test...very first impressions are that while the positioning still sounds strangely "off" at times, it's still far, FAR better than Bad Company 2's positioning ever was, so DICE actually did get their act together. And there's one more trick they did that I'm not sure HOW they pulled it off given the way XAudio2 works, but...the helicopters in the first real singleplayer mission after you exit the APC...they legitimately sounded ABOVE my head.

My prior statements on BF3 were based on extrapolations from BF:BC2's audio performance (they're both Frostbite engine-based, after all), which may very well be incorrect in retrospect. This is why I need more hands-on experience with things, but I just wasn't willing to spend more than $5 on BF3 after having lost faith in DICE's ability to make a good Battlefield game.
Hey Nameless,
I wasn't bagging on you, I was trying to leave you anonymous. Neither was I suggesting you had done anything, mostly that your and Mad's experience was markedly different from mine, and maybe there was a manufacturing defect (or maybe they accidentally made mine better than average?).

But anyway, BF3 used Frostbite 2. Probably about as much change between BF:BC2 and BF2 as between BF3 and BC2. I thought before that you said positioning was bad in BF3 because there was too much going on (and explosions created an in-game effect of ringing ears, muting the rest of game audio). But hey, it would be cool if we squad'ed up sometime.

I probably won't get BF4, just because it's like "Too Soon!" but I probably will pick up Star Wars Battlefront 3 (cuz I'm a sucker for SW). I'm about to play Tomb Raider just now tho, this is the first time I'm really taxing my GPU and I was AMAZED (compared to Xbox) when I found 5 mins to play this morning.
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I wanna go to Best Buy and see if they have the Momentum up for demoing. That'd be my first choice as far as closed portables go. I'm not a fan of Vmoda's designs (too teenager-centric for me). I prefer elegant design like the X1 and Momentum. If the Philips M1 sounded great, those would be a good choice as far as looks go too. Then there is the Audio Technica ES700, ESw10, and ESw11JPN, etc... but are not comfy...
Mad, I was gonna reply and speak about my recent-ish experience listening to the Momentums at Best Buy, but then you said...
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So I went to BB and demoed the Momentum. Unless you are a 5 year old or midget, I don't see how those can be over the ear for ANY adult, lol.

They are definitely on ear for me. They sounded nice, and looked great in person too. Not good enough for me to spend $350 for them though. The on ear fit would probably make them uncomfortable after a period of time. The pads are amazingly soft though.

The 558 still impresses me for the price. The K550 still disappoints, as does the A900x. Yuck.

Got to try the Denon D600... I liked it, though it's definitely boomy and sibilant.

And basically, I agree. My store didn't have the last two out for demoing though. When I came back from that, THAT was when I recommended the HD 558 to those guys from India as a first Hi-Fi headphone, because it is quite capable and cost-efficient. I liked the Momentums too, for sure, but I think I'd rather have the V-MODA's based on sound-alone. Really wish I could find those, and the LP's earpads were big enough that they could be "half" circumaural, but still I couldn't wear them longer than 45-minutes before some pain crept in, before I had the earpads broken in. The Momentums really do look great.
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Oh, and obviously the fit of IEMs is picky, I actually had quite a hard time with Shure's and olive-shaped earpads, but the "Christmas trees" of the Etymotic products feel great when you have the right size. What were the Monster Turbines like for comfort?
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How would you compare its sound to the MD? Would you say they are completely different or a good portable alternate?

The Mad Dog walks all over the Momentum. This is a large reason why i can't justify the Momentum's price tag. The Mad Dog is a better headphone in basically every regard, and cheaper. if the Momentum were $200, then I'd say it's a good alternative. i feel part of it's price is due to the very high build quality and aesthetics. It's a great headphone, make no mistake, but not $350 good. That's more than the X1 and Mad dogs, and near the Annie's price. Portable or not, it doesn't compare.

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I believe fellows on this thread have repeatedly affirmed that they would be the definitive headphone for you.

My question is whether the X1 satiates your nostalgia for the D7000.

It satiates my desire to get anything else for now, except something like the X1 with better refinement. (the X1 distorts a bit in the bass compared to the planars). I could envision an improved HE-400 with more comfort, reduced treble, and even more sub bass being what'd get me to upgrade.

The D7000 is still my fave headphone sound-wise, but it doesn't hit as many boxes as the X1 (comfort, velour, open, being three of them).

Either way, I no longer have any desire to spend the amount of money it'd take to get a D7000, unless it's for an improved X1. I'd love the D7000, but not pleather...
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/16/13 at 1:30pm
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