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post #12616 of 31955
Mad Lust Envy,

I'd like to start off by thanking you for creating such an incredible knowledge base. Without such, individuals such as myself(enthusiast perfectionist researchers) could easily be turned off to headphones and simply pursue other alternatives. With as much as I research the many things I do, sometimes I just need clear concise information without weeding through everything. All of that aside, I apologize for my original short post. Having some more time now I will elaborate further if that can be of any help.

Originally I asked if the Astro 5.8 Mixamp could drive the Ultrasone Pro 900's. My interest in both is due to moving into an apartment in the near future because I am graduating from college. My logic is that I wanted closed headphones to isolate myself from surrounding noises from neighbors as well as reduce the amount of noise others have to tolerate while I am using said headphones. I wanted to utilize a virtual surround device to help increase immersion and keep the lack of a full surround system from making the audio feel underwhelming compared to my projector.

The system would be used primarily for media viewing,(via ps3 utilizing plex media server as well as dvd's/blu-ray's, streamed content, live tv with hdhomerun), gaming (ps3, possibly PC). Music is the last but not least, although the usage would be limited in comparison to the aforementioned priorities.

Priorities established, let's talk about equipment. I selected the Ultrasone Pro 900's due to Mad Lust Envy's review and their closed back design. I felt the qualities Mad Lust Envy expounded on in the review made the headphones the best option for me. I selected the Astro 5.8 Mixamp originally because I wanted to reduce cable clutter and eliminate walkway problems. This was of course before I recognized that my projector would indeed be behind/above me(shocking right?). I still like the 5.8 but it's discontinuation has complicated procurement slightly. I've also considered the Recon 3d recently, although it doesn't seem to have a very large following in this particular thread.

So... Now that I've written you an essay, my original question was..? What do you think is best for me? To be honest, I hear all of my media through cheaper 2.1 setups. I'm really excited to add surround sound and higher audio quality to my home theater experience.

Thank you all for any help,
Ryan
post #12617 of 31955
Thread Starter 
The Pro 900 is relatively easy to drive, so it shouldn't have much if any issue being driven off the Mixamp 5.8. I definitely like them more for gaming/movies than music, since Dolby Headphone takes off a little bit of the really edgy treble the Pro 900s have.

If you like an aggresive sound with really impressive midbass, the Pro 900 will please you especially for gaming. Not a fan of it's treble, but as mentioned, it's not a big issue when using it for media.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I saw it and meant to reply.

I apologize to everyone for not having nearly any closed/isolating headphones on the guide. I don't actively buy them since I don't need them and open headphones generally have superior sound in almost all aspects. Closed headphones are very situational, and for those situations, I just use my clip ons, which while open, don't leak out loudly. Just a slight tizz in the background.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/27/13 at 11:52pm
post #12618 of 31955
Any comparison against the Mad Dogs you mentioned? They seem to be more tonally neutral, hadn't heard of them until you mentioned them last page. Really impressed with the design however, looks very comfortable. What virtual surround device do you prefer? Wired is an option it just seems that wireless would simplify what I'm looking for. The 5.8's bass boost feature would also become useless I'm sure with the Pro 900's, although the mad dogs might make use of it. I'm not entirely closed (ironic) to open headphones, I just want to minimize leakage in/out.
Edited by HopeSilent - 3/28/13 at 12:26am
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Thread Starter 
I don't have enough head time with the Mad Dogs yet, but it is quite different than the Pro 900 in sound presentation. I don't like comparing two headphones that cater to very different things. In any case, I prfer the warmer, and more accurate presentation of the Mad Dogs over the Pro 900 just from my brief impression of it. Not sure how it will fare for gaming.

It sounds just like I expected. Closed, and intimate. I dont think it will topple any of my faves for gaming, nor do I expect it to do amazingly well with Dolby Headphone. Probably decent to good, but who knows?
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/28/13 at 12:27am
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Thread Starter 
SOOOOOOOO...

I bought an Alienware M17x R4 laptop. Yeah, yeah, overpriced. Why did I get it? One main reason: It has an HDMI input. I absolutely can't find another laptop with an Hdmi INPUT (meaning that I can plug in my PS3, etc to it's display).

Anyways:

Processor 2.40 (boost to 3.40) GHz Intel Core i7 3630QM
RAM 6 GB (I just ordered a 4gb 1600mhz sticks to replace the stock ones)
Hard Drive 1TB (also bought a 128gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD as well)
GFX card: AMD 7970M. It's the best AMD gfx card that rivals Nvidia's flagship GTX680m from what I've read...

I maxed out my Amazon card with this, so no more headphone purchases for awhile... rolleyes.gif

Looks like it's LCD2 for now.

Also looks like I'm gonna FINALLY get into some PC gaming. biggrin.gif

I sold my desktop to family, and I'm selling my monitor. This will do it all, literally. I might end up selling my 65" plasma as well.

Here's the Amazon page (different configuration but it shows what the M17x does)

http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AM17xR4-8424BK-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Stealth/dp/B00ANG3ULW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364486819&sr=1-1&keywords=m17x+r4
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/28/13 at 9:43am
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Ok. I am most likely going to jump on your deal. I will PM you once I inquire about returning my Recon. Thank you, again.

 

Just to clarify, you can chat with the DSS but just not mix the chat and game volume. 

post #12622 of 31955
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

SOOOOOOOO...

I bought an Alienware M17x R4 laptop. Yeah, yeah, overpriced. Why did I get it? One main reason: It has an HDMI input. I absolutely can't find another laptop with an Hdmi INPUT (meaning that I can plug in my PS3, etc to it's display).

Anyways:

Processor 2.40 (boost to 3.40) GHz Intel Core i7 3630QM
RAM 6 GB (I just ordered a 4gb 1600mhz sticks to replace the stock ones)
Hard Drive 1TB (also bought a 256 Samsung 840 Pro SSD as well)
GFX card: AMD 7970M. It's the best AMD gfx card that rivals Nvidia's flagship GTX680m from what I've read...

I maxed out my Amazon card with this, so no more headphone purchases for awhile... rolleyes.gif

Looks like it's LCD2 for now.

Also looks like I'm gonna FINALLY get into some PC gaming. biggrin.gif

I sold my desktop to family, and I'm selling my monitor. This will do it all, literally. I might end up selling my 65" plasma as well.

Here's the Amazon page (different configuration but it shows what the M17x does)

http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AM17xR4-8424BK-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Stealth/dp/B00ANG3ULW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364486819&sr=1-1&keywords=m17x+r4

Welcome to the wonderful world of PC gaming!  Nice rig, great specs and definitely a good all in one solution with the HDMI input - this thing is a portable powerhouse.  You could always do HDMI out into your plasma if you end up keeping it.  You may want to consider a big laptop cooler as these reportedly get pretty warm under load.  The AMD 7xxx series are good cards, though...you'll be able to play most games on full setting with no problems.

post #12623 of 31955
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I'm excited, and unbelievably broke...

Okay on to other things...



Mad Dogs on the left.

Huh... INTERESTING.

Just got the leather LCD2.

Side by side comparison to the vegan LCD2...

It's subtle but... the vegan has slightly MORE bass, while the leather has slightly MORE mids. eek.gif

Don't have much time to test this out today, but I will put up my findings later. As of right now, it's a miniscule difference.

They really are within a hair of each other in sound. I'll have to pay special attention to the treble range, as that's where I noted the difference before.

The leather is definitely a smidge warmer overall. It wouldn't be noticeable if you didn't compare directly like this. The vocals on the leather are fuller/slightly more organic.

The vegan is right there next to it though, and is CONSIDERABLY more comfortable. So if you want a more neutral tone, the vegan is the way to go.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/28/13 at 10:18am
post #12624 of 31955
Lol, Mad's going to get quite busy now that he has a new gaming platform. Obviously the m(obile) graphics cards are a small step down from the desktop cards, but still you should be able to experience max settings and a fair amount of Anti-Aliasing as well. Do you own any PC games yet? Before you sell your 65" plasma, you simply MUST play a game at full settings, and see just how old the console hardware is. I enjoy retro games and don't need cutting edge graphics to have a good time, but still it adds a WOAH! factor. Have you tried Far Cry 3 yet? Get some game demos! Steam games are so cheap...

Edit: HOLY..............
Edited by Evshrug - 3/28/13 at 10:21am
post #12625 of 31955
Thread Starter 
Some demos are gonna have to do. Lol. I do have some on my desktop which isn't bad itself. Still, the M17x should be quite a step up. Apparently can play BF3 on Ultra and do over 30fps. I'm sure with high settings I'll still be blown away.
post #12626 of 31955
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Thanks. I'm excited, and unbelievably broke...

Okay on to other things...



Mad Dogs on the left.

Huh... INTERESTING.

Just got the leather LCD2.

Side by side comparison to the vegan LCD2...

It's subtle but... the vegan has slightly MORE bass, while the leather has slightly MORE mids. eek.gif

Don't have much time to test this out today, but I will put up my findings later. As of right now, it's a miniscule difference.

They really are within a hair of each other in sound. I'll have to pay special attention to the treble range, as that's where I noted the difference before.

The leather is definitely a smidge warmer overall. It wouldn't be noticeable if you didn't compare directly like this. The vocals on the leather are fuller/slightly more organic.

The vegan is right there next to it though, and is CONSIDERABLY more comfortable. So if you want a more neutral tone, the vegan is the way to go.

Very nice!  I, for one, am definitely excited to hear your impressions.  I'll have an opportunity to try both in May (along with the HE-500 and several others) to determine what my next move will be, but you're quite thorough and seemingly accurate with all your reviews and opinions.

post #12627 of 31955
Thread Starter 
They're ultimately the same exact headphone. I've heard two EXACT headphones with the same exact pads sound more different than these two LCD2s with different pads. So, honestly, I'd recommend getting whichever you feel would benefit you most. I DO like the leather LCD'2s slight warmth over the vegan, so it's my keeper. But it's too close to call.
post #12628 of 31955
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

They're ultimately the same exact headphone. I've heard two EXACT headphones with the same exact pads sound more different than these two LCD2s with different pads. So, honestly, I'd recommend getting whichever you feel would benefit you most. I DO like the leather LCD'2s slight warmth over the vegan, so it's my keeper. But it's too close to call.

Ah, I meant between the Mad Dog and LCD2 (and how the Mad Dog fairs for gaming), but I now see your brief impressions from the earlier posting - still looking forward to the full review, though.  I figured based on what others reported that the differences between pads on the Audezes were pretty minimal, and it was more of a preference of comfort.  I'm considering the Mad Dog, LCD2 and/or HE-500 (among others) because I think I'd like to have a flatter response and/or a closed headphone to complement the HE-400.  Though, I may be won over by one or more of those and decide to sell the HE-400, who knows.  My natural curiosity is piqued to hear other headphones and since I was not able to demo anything I originally chose the HE-400 based off reviews and impressions that seemed to match my tastes, one of which was your review.  I think your impressions are fairly accurate overall.

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post #12629 of 31955
Thread Starter 
Ah yeah, I just wanted to get the LCD2 differences out of the way. My time with the Mad Dogs will come in the weekend, particularly Sunday and Monday, as those are my days off, and I have to ship out the LCD2 sooner than the MDs.
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Also looks like I'm gonna FINALLY get into some PC gaming. biggrin.gif
 

 

So, sounds like it might be time to send MLE a couple of Steam games that I have sitting around.

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