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It'll be a cold day in hell when I expand to IEMs, no offense. I hate IEMs.
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It'll be a cold day in hell when I expand to IEMs, no offense. I hate IEMs.

Don't like things poking you in the ear, huh? tongue.gif
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Lol, no. That and I hate how closed they sound. I'm not a fan of closed cans in general,m and IEMs makes things even worse. I know there are exceptions, but I don't care enough to find out.
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Lol, no. That and I hate how closed they sound. I'm not a fan of closed cans in general,m and IEMs makes things even worse. I know there are exceptions, but I don't care enough to find out.

I'll just send my sonys with the HP200 whenever you're ready wink.gif
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Hey guys,

I'm from Brazil, here we don't have as many options as you guys from Europe or USA... I did a research around the stores here and I found these over-ear options:

 

- AKG K240 MKII for R$499,00

- Sennheiser HD558 for R$679,00

- Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro for R$749,00

- Sennheiser HD598 for R$949,00

- AKG Q701 for R$1059,00

- Sennheiser HD600 for R$1399,00

 

Based on price (since I want budget-wise solution) what would be the best option? I'm looking for a solid all-rounder gaming headphone, not concerned with competition gaming but aiming for immersion. You can make your own suggestions, of course, but I'll need to search for them here in Brazil. :(

 

EDIT: Price correction.


Edited by wabithewarlord - 7/8/14 at 12:20am
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Think you'd enjoy the JVC FX850s sound quite a bit. Huge sound stage and vented is very far from a closed sound.
I should send them your way and pop that IEM cher...you know😁. @Mad Lust Envy
Edited by Kamakahah - 7/7/14 at 8:38pm
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Lol, no. That and I hate how closed they sound. I'm not a fan of closed cans in general,m and IEMs makes things even worse. I know there are exceptions, but I don't care enough to find out.

I find that IEMs are just not all that great. They're good for some music listening when I don't want to carry my M80s around and a heck of a lot better for when I'm laying down as I tend to lay on my side but otherwise, they're not all that great. My GR07 Bass Editions are quite enjoyable for EDM and such played from my phone when I'm not at home.

IEMs tend to strain my ears a bit when I'm listening. For gaming, I would recommend against anything with harshness as gunshots will be really hard on the ears. I don't find that IEMs have much soundstage at all and gaming competitively is just torture with in ears because it's hard to hear where sounds are coming from.

Comfort is bad with IEMs for me. My ears can get itchy, irritated, sore, etc when I wear them for a while. I can never find the best tips for my GR07s. Silicone gives off the best sound but doesn't isolate much and isn't too comfortable whereas comply foams just completely ruin the sound. I'm also a clean freak so I have to clean the insides of my ears before I use IEMs so that I won't have to clean them later.

For some reason, when I wear in ears and I'm watching a YouTube video in which someone is talking, my ears tend to... seize up or something. Not even sure how to describe it but it's like my ears are trying to block out noise and it's kind of worrisome.

Tl;dr IEMs are okay for some situations but overall aren't worth the discomfort for me.
Edited by grumpy1471 - 7/7/14 at 10:20pm
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Oh and for some reason, yesterday was my first time in a while playing CoD: Ghosts with my K712s. It was surprising how well I did with the god mode sound whoring. I managed to get over a 5 K/D for a few matches in Cranked before calling it a night.

I hate Ghosts but I can sustain a 2 K/D and can usually dominate most people in the game so I continue to play it. Even when I dominate, I never seem to have a good time playing but the satisfaction of kicking online butt is enough to keep me going.
Edited by grumpy1471 - 7/7/14 at 10:28pm
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Hey guys,

I'm from Brazil, here we don't have as many options as you guys from Europe or USA... I did a research around the stores here and I found these over-ear options:

 

- AKG Q701 for R$1059,00

- AKG K240 MKII for R$499,00

- Sennheiser HD558 for R$479,00

- Sennheiser HD598 for R$949,00

- Sennheiser HD600 for R$1399,00

- Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro for R$749,00

 

Based on price (since I want budget-wise solution) what would be the best option? I'm looking for a solid all-rounder gaming headphone, not concerned with competition gaming but aiming for immersion. You can make your own suggestions, of course, but I'll need to search for them here in Brazil. :(

People seem to really like the HD558 and it's the cheapest on your list.  I see no reason to spend more on something else given your criteria.

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Sorry, I've made a mistake, the price for HD558 is R$679,00, not R$479,00. Does the K240 have a good soundstage for it's price range?

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Originally Posted by wabithewarlord View Post
 

Hey guys,

I'm from Brazil, here we don't have as many options as you guys from Europe or USA... I did a research around the stores here and I found these over-ear options:

 

- AKG K240 MKII for R$499,00

- Sennheiser HD558 for R$679,00

- Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro for R$749,00

- Sennheiser HD598 for R$949,00

- AKG Q701 for R$1059,00

- Sennheiser HD600 for R$1399,00

 

Based on price (since I want budget-wise solution) what would be the best option? I'm looking for a solid all-rounder gaming headphone, not concerned with competition gaming but aiming for immersion. You can make your own suggestions, of course, but I'll need to search for them here in Brazil. :(

 

EDIT: Price correction.

558 will be fine

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I think the 990 Pro would be the better choice for immersion, assuming they're okay with a strong treble output. The 558 is great, but still wouldn't be one of my recommended picks for immersion and all around gaming. It'd be leaning more towards competitive.

If the Sony MA-900 could be found in Brazil for a good price, I'd recommend that the most.

If you can deal with the Q701's price... perhaps try also ordering some 65th Anniversary pads for it, which will DEFINITELY be my top recommendation out of your list, assuming you can afford it all.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/8/14 at 1:58am
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I find that IEMs are just not all that great. They're good for some music listening when I don't want to carry my M80s around and a heck of a lot better for when I'm laying down as I tend to lay on my side but otherwise, they're not all that great. My GR07 Bass Editions are quite enjoyable for EDM and such played from my phone when I'm not at home.

IEMs tend to strain my ears a bit when I'm listening. For gaming, I would recommend against anything with harshness as gunshots will be really hard on the ears. I don't find that IEMs have much soundstage at all and gaming competitively is just torture with in ears because it's hard to hear where sounds are coming from.

Comfort is bad with IEMs for me. My ears can get itchy, irritated, sore, etc when I wear them for a while. I can never find the best tips for my GR07s. Silicone gives off the best sound but doesn't isolate much and isn't too comfortable whereas comply foams just completely ruin the sound. I'm also a clean freak so I have to clean the insides of my ears before I use IEMs so that I won't have to clean them later.

For some reason, when I wear in ears and I'm watching a YouTube video in which someone is talking, my ears tend to... seize up or something. Not even sure how to describe it but it's like my ears are trying to block out noise and it's kind of worrisome.

Tl;dr IEMs are okay for some situations but overall aren't worth the discomfort for me.

 

Disagree on gunshots being harsh but that is pretty subjective and gunshots being louder is better for competitive gaming as louder makes it easier to locate where the sound comes from. I personally don't have comfort issues with my Etymotic ER-4P IEMs but that has come from a lot of experience in how to insert them and to what depth. Some people seem to have reactions to anything touching their ears and that isn't solely an IEM issues. Comply tips have no effect on the sound if the foam is not covering the sound bore and they offer even better isolation and comfort to some people. They can be expensive though.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

It'll be a cold day in hell when I expand to IEMs, no offense. I hate IEMs.

 

Fair enough but the only headphones I can tolerate for gaming are the Sennheiser HD 800 after extended use of my ER-4P. The imaging on the K702 and HD 600 just sounds blurry to me now. I'll consider buying the Noble Kaiser 10 as a flagship comparison but I don't think I can stomach the cost, fit issues and low resale value.

 

Another thing that people should consider whe using open headphones is building a PC that is quite. Fan noise is noticably distracting to me.


Edited by Dreyka - 7/8/14 at 2:21am
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I live in a perpetual state of fan noise, and I've used open headphones since the beginning. I've learned to mentally block my fans out regardless. I can't live without a fan. Even with something as open as the MA900 or HE-400, fan noise really doesn't bother me.
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Disagree on gunshots being harsh but that is pretty subjective and gunshots being louder is better for competitive gaming as louder makes it easier to locate where the sound comes from. I personally don't have comfort issues with my Etymotic ER-4P IEMs but that has come from a lot of experience in how to insert them and to what depth. Some people seem to have reactions to anything touching their ears and that isn't solely an IEM issues. Comply tips have no effect on the sound if the foam is not covering the sound bore and they offer even better isolation and comfort to some people. They can be expensive though.

I can confirm that they do have an effect on the sound and I've seen many people say the same with the Complys and the GR07 on the GR07 tips thread. They seem to absolutely kill the highs. I make sure to insert them correctly and push the foam back away from the center plastic piece on the tips. On my JVC HA-FX40s, however, the Complys greatly improved the sound.
Edited by grumpy1471 - 7/8/14 at 2:27am
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