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Nice find, but hefty impedance on those Feg (2.2 Ohm: at least they quote it!). Have emailed Beyer about these: http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/accessories/custom-headset-gear.html. Can't imagine they're any better impedance wise, but seeing as the stock cable on the X1 is 1.8 Ohm you never know. Also both cost a lot, but at least both are ideal if you're lucky to use headphones with detachable cables :)

 

Also check out these - pretty decent reviews: http://v-moda.com/boompro-microphone/

 

Yes, the Beyerdynamic is even better. I'll build a headset with the upcoming Custome One Tesla.

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Tesla's any good for gaming?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/669824/upcoming-beyerdynamic-headphones-custom-one-tesla-custom-one-studio-t51p-and-amp-a20

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Yes. I liked the T90 very much for it's imaging and clarity and being quite fast, the T1 is better balanced though. 

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My sound card is the one that comes from Maximus vi impact, Do I still need to buy a mix amp to have a better sound quality?Headphone choices are AKG K701 or AKG K702 or Senheiser HD598. I would be using this for games,music, and movies.

 

on the side note I still haven't bought that yet, still researching if the on board sound card is good.

The Asus Xonar DG (PCI) sound card, $26 ($10 mail in rebate this month, Amazon), would be a better value for use with a Win PC, over the Mix-amp.

 

Sound card wise, the Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $100, should offer audio quality improvements, over the motherboard's on-board audio.


What is the make and model of your motherboard?

 

The Sennheiser HD558, $130, uses the same driver as the HD598, just different cup design.

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After some research I find that AKG Q701 is too expensive for me (I am from Czech Republic and price here is 400$, and with earpads and amp it will be too much expensive). So I am thinking about Sony MDR MA900, these looks pretty nice and according to reviews they are good (and also price is nice). But do I still need a headphone amp with MA900 (which advised me Evshrug and PurpleAngel, FiiO E09k), or my Xonar DX is enough to MA900?
And I got advice to look on the AKG K612 pro. Could someone tell me something about K612, if they are also good for gaming, cause I didnt find some information and experiences with gaming. I read some review here on head-fi, comparision between K612 and K702, but still want to know your opinion guys, which one you think is better.
Thank you for all replies and advices.

The MA900 isn't actually hard to drive... It will likely sound good straight from the sound card. That was actually a strength and appeal of the Sony MA900... You probably don't need to add any special amping.

I haven't heard the K612, it just seems appealing to me from reviews as a less expensive headphone that hopefully shares similarities to the headphones I use (and love) now.



Mad,
I definitely hear a change in soundstage with different amps, particularly with my tube amp and some tubes. I'm not the only person who hears less congestion when a headphone is powered well, and I don't know what it is about tubes but my two favorites just make the soundstage more real for me.
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FWIW, my M-Stage has a larger soundstage than my E12 and iCAN (even with its 3D switch on high). That's about the only difference my ears can distinguish between them, though.

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I hope Mad (or Chico, Change, or heck even myself) get the urge to try these K612s out, seems like they could be a great "flagship-lite" experience.

 

I doubt I'll ever venture to try the K612. It seems I have reached the end of my journey (for now) as I am extremely happy with the K712 and MDs.

 

I am curious, however, about them and wouldn't mind demoing a pair if ever given the chance...

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But the Profits say The Great Journey to salvation must go on!

That being said, I'm probably going to hold off on buying new gear too. I'll give the Alpha Dogs a listen and be done with buying audio gear for a while.
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On a totally different sidenote, I am very much looking forward to the ATH-A900X :]

I can feel I will really like it. + plus its gonna be an import straight from Japan, which is awesome :D

IF the 3D wing "headband" fits me and if I have a good pair, everything should work out fine.

[There were a bunch of defective pairs with driver/frequency imbalance, bass issues, etc, but it seem sto relate to a single or two batches, hopefully :]]

 

I am almost certain they will be better than what MLE said. I just know it :D

 

Anyway, will report back once I get them. Could be a week, or a month...

 

My open reference will be the HE-6, close-backs will be Pro 900 and IEM will be RE-400, so I might contrast that.

 

[For a very complete review, check my signature :D]

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Originally Posted by Ordokon View Post
 

After some research I find that AKG Q701 is too expensive for me (I am from Czech Republic and price here is 400$, and with earpads and amp it will be too much expensive). So I am thinking about Sony MDR MA900, these looks pretty nice and according to reviews they are good (and also price is nice). But do I still need a headphone amp with MA900 (which advised me Evshrug and PurpleAngel, FiiO E09k), or my Xonar DX is enough to MA900?

And I got advice to look on the AKG K612 pro. Could someone tell me something about K612, if they are also good for gaming, cause I didnt find some information and experiences with gaming. I read some review here on head-fi, comparision between K612 and K702, but still want to know your opinion guys, which one you think is better.

Thank you for all replies and advices.


I have a Xonar DX and the MA900, yes it is enough, I do like them more with an amp though. I don't have the K612 but it is my next headphone, not sure when I'm getting it though. Whenever I do get the K612, I will be comparing the MA900 and K612.

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Yeah, sure Conq, nobody's saying they're BAD headphones, and if you've already got your mind set then I think you will enjoy them. If your head isn't quite wide, you can improve comfort by bending the "bars" slightly to make the pads rest flush against the side of your head. Some people like to wind a rubber band between the "wings" too.
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I have a Xonar DX and the MA900, yes it is enough, I do like them more with an amp though. I don't have the K612 but it is my next headphone, not sure when I'm getting it though. Whenever I do get the K612, I will be comparing the MA900 and K612.

Sweet, man!
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Yeah, sure Conq, nobody's saying they're BAD headphones, and if you've already got your mind set then I think you will enjoy them. If your head isn't quite wide, you can improve comfort by bending the "bars" slightly to make the pads rest flush against the side of your head. Some people like to wind a rubber band between the "wings" too.

Yeah, read that.

I hope they will fit from the get go. If not, then some tweaking will take place. Not gonna give up on them easily.

It's just that MLE said they were rather terrible but the way he described them just don't fit anything I read. And there are positive reviews on these throughout... Well, as far as sound quality goes :D

 

I guess he just didn't like them for some reason. Well, we all hear differently :]

 

Anyway, I'll report back to confirm if it's truth or fiction :]

Soon...

 

Cya then, and thanks :]

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Impressions are almost always glowing on every headphone reviewed wherever you go. Headphone reviews almost never border on the negative side. Negative reviews tend to be from people who whine about the headphone breaking on them, and not about actual quality.

I haven't had an extensive time with the A900x, but all I know is that for the price... I'd easily go for cheaper headphones which definitely sound better to me.

We do all hear things differently, but I like to believe my impressions tend to fit the general impression of headphones, when it comes to sound signature and overall quality.

The A900x came off as rather boring and overpriced. It lacked energy, impact, and weight. It sounded rather flat and just.... there. There was nothing engaging about it's sound. Not the bass, not the mids, not the soundstage, nothing. If I wanted something bland, I'd have paid less than $100 for something else that isn't going to inspire me in any way.

I found the Audio technica's own ESW9 to be much more engaging and lively, with better impact, better interpretation of vocals, and a great tonality. Yes, it's on ear, but it trumps the A900x in everything but sheer size.

As for the K550, I won't even go there. It seems so ridiculously sensitive to seal and placement, I call it a fail in design. I literally had to press the cups to my ears to hear anything remotely worthwhile. If I let it sit there... it was... just not good.

I tell you what, I'll go to a few different stores and demo both again, and take my E17 again. I'll give them a longer demo. I don't expect my impressions to change, but I will at least attempt to hone in on the specific qualities of it (or lack therof). it's been awhile since I heard them. All I know, is that they did nothing for me every single time.

Nothing will ever be fully proven as it is a Magnolia section demo (the Magnolia sections near where I live are actually pretty quiet), but if the ESW9, Momentum, and HD558 can impress at the store, I see no reason why the A900x shouldn't.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/19/13 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Impressions are almost always glowing on every headphone reviewed wherever you go. Headphone reviews almost never border on the negative side. Negative reviews tend to be from people who whine about the headphone breaking on them, and not about actual quality.

I haven't had an extensive time with the A900x, but all I know is that for the price... I'd easily go for cheaper headphones which definitely sound better to me.

We do all hear things differently, but I like to believe my impressions tend to fit the general impression of headphones, when it comes to sound signature and overall quality.

The A900x came off as rather boring and overpriced. It lacked energy, impact, and weight. It sounded rather flat and just.... there. There was nothing engaging about it's sound. Not the bass, not the mids, not the soundstage, nothing. If I wanted something bland, I'd have paid less than $100 for something else that isn't going to inspire me in any way.

I found the Audio technica's own ESW9 to be much more engaging and lively, with better impact, better interpretation of vocals, and a great tonality. Yes, it's on ear, but it trumps the A900x in everything but sheer size.

As for the K550, I won't even go there. It seems so ridiculously sensitive to seal and placement, I call it a fail in design. I literally had to press the cups to my ears to hear anything remotely worthwhile. If I let it sit there... it was... just not good.

I tell you what, I'll go to a few different stores and demo both again, and take my E17 again. I'll give them a longer demo. I don't expect my impressions to change, but I will at least attempt to hone in on the specific qualities of it (or lack therof). it's been awhile since I heard them. All I know, is that they did nothing for me every single time.

OK, MLE. That would actually be awesome.

 

But I find that impression... I dunno, strange.

 

Every review is subjective  of course but if you search for them here on head-fi, there are like 4 reviews and I went pretty much through countless google searches and read many review on them and the words "boring" or "bland" or "not lively"... They just don't fit there. They ain't there.

Treble - extended, detailed, beautiful

Midrange - full, luscious

Lows - punchy, tight, sometimes a bit too pronounced, roll-off bellow 50hz, so not very extended I guess, EQ helps there if problematic

Soundstage - awesome for a closed can, more wide than deep but very well defined

Instrument separation - great, easily pin-pointable

 

Great for music, gaming & movies...

 

That's pretty much what pretty much every review said.

Energetic, fun but still close to balanced, slightly south of neutral.

 

It's just the polar opposite of what you said, that's what bothers me.

 

SAID THAT, there have been quite a few defective pairs. Maybe the one you demoed were? I know two batches were defective, or at least a good bunch of these [namely 03 and 05-2012 I think].

These might exhibit such flaws. Don't really know...

 

I am not questioning your ears. Perhaps, you have different preferences? My reference headphone is the HE-6.

But a guy here has a similar setup to me and found the A-900X very good for their price [in comparison to the HE-6 for instance] so... I just dunno.

 

I guess. Yeah, if you could demo them once again, that'd be great :] 

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