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Demoed it at the store. I don't like it. At all. Even took my own amp. Its so cold, lifeless. No thanks.
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Just changed my X1 cable to aftermarket one (monster cable 100 DIY I guess) for 7usd. I can hear some improvement, but not much. Bass more controlled (although still bit too much) and treble more pronounced.

Question MLE, what is the difference with using silver cable? It cost 7 times the normal aftermarket cable, but what kind of improvement over the normal one?

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I don't know the difference in metals. I just know the difference in going from the high resistance stock cable to lower and lower resistance tightens the bass a smidge and makes the headphone slightly brighter. All very subtle.
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I mean the difference in sound from normal aftermarket and silver cable.

I can definitely hear the sound improved. it becomes more bright and the bass becomes more controlled, although still bit too much.

Problem is, this new cable is so thick and stiff. It put more weights and becomes less comfortable over the philips one. I'm also afraid it will put more strain with the X1 input jack

Here the picture comparison.

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I mean the difference in sound from normal aftermarket and silver cable.

I can definitely hear the sound improved. it becomes more bright and the bass becomes more controlled, although still bit too much.

Problem is, this new cable is so thick and stiff. It put more weights and becomes less comfortable over the philips one. I'm also afraid it will put more strain with the X1 input jack

Here the picture comparison.

I don't have a lot of experience with cables, but I do have a couple silver-plated copper cables, one on my AKGs and one connecting the amp to my sound card. The main differences I noticed is better coherency, transparency, dynamics, extension, and a more controlled sound. I haven't noticed any increase of brightness over the old cables, the old cables were slightly harsher sounding actually.

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Silver is the best conductor
But looks cheaper than gold
Edited by Mitchb2020 - 9/8/13 at 4:28pm
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While everyone is talking about sound cards, what sound card is recommended for gaming usage (Dolby Headphone, I guess?) for the Senn PC 360? I believe someone mentioned an Asus card, however, there seems to have been a few more brought up and I'm wondering what would best fit my usage scenario.

 



Jumping off my last question, is a sound card required to get virtual surround (Dolby Headphone)?
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Originally Posted by 0verlord View Post

While everyone is talking about sound cards, what sound card is recommended for gaming usage (Dolby Headphone, I guess?) for the Senn PC 360? I believe someone mentioned an Asus card, however, there seems to have been a few more brought up and I'm wondering what would best fit my usage scenario.

 



Jumping off my last question, is a sound card required to get virtual surround (Dolby Headphone)?
If your onboard sound outputs Dolby Digital Live (optical) you could use a little external unit like a DSS v.1 or a mixamp. Check eBay for good prices used.
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I'm just concerned the stiffness and heavy of the new cable will put strain on X1 input jack. I heard that it quite fragile. I don't know that this cable is so stiff and heavy, since I bought it online.

Is it wise to continue using the cable? Or just buy lighter better cable.

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If it concerns you take weight and pressure of the headphone by say resting the majority of the cable on your desk and give it some extra slack
A cheap light cable can be had for 5 bucks
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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post

I'm just concerned the stiffness and heavy of the new cable will put strain on X1 input jack. I heard that it quite fragile. I don't know that this cable is so stiff and heavy, since I bought it online.
Is it wise to continue using the cable? Or just buy lighter better cable.
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Don't think this qualifies as a double post

Should i get a
Q701s + sbz
Or
Fidelio x1s and the sbz later

As the q701s cost 350 together
And the Fidelio x1s cost 340
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If it concerns you take weight and pressure of the headphone by say resting the majority of the cable on your desk and give it some extra slack
A cheap light cable can be had for 5 bucks

I bought this cable cheap, 7usd for 1 meter. I just don't know its very thick and stiff. I think it supposed to be speaker cable, not for headphone. However, it does improves X1 sound over the original cable

Since its short and stiff, It can't be put on my desk. It will slide down my table.

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Some neutrik plugs, half stripped Canare or Mogami cable with some paracord sleeving and you have a great, light cable for cheap
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Just changed my X1 cable to aftermarket one (monster cable 100 DIY I guess) for 7usd. I can hear some improvement, but not much. Bass more controlled (although still bit too much) and treble more pronounced.
Question MLE, what is the difference with using silver cable? It cost 7 times the normal aftermarket cable, but what kind of improvement over the normal one?

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Silver is the best conductor
But looks cheaper than gold
Yes, silver conducts electricity better than any metal/element on the periodic table. Copper has some advantages – cost, weight as you guys noted and I think flexibility – but both oxidize (rust & tarnish) which can make an exposed plug have a poor connection. Gold is very soft and doesn't oxidize, so it can be used to make a very solid/tight connection, but chrome also resists rust (Oxygen doesnt make it rust, and it forms an oxide layer on top of itself) and does a fair job of staying stable so long as it doesn't get scratched off.
The exact audio qualities of a silver cable are honestly still a mystery for me, but it seems logical that it might better preserve the signal since it's easier for the electricity to "flow." I have a custom-AKG silver cable saved in my eBay wishlist out of curiosity, though honestly I only found it because I was looking for a shorter cable that cost less than AKG's MSRP wink.gif


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Yeah i'm trying to convince myself the upgrade to a bifrost uber to match the asgard 2 but maybe i won't even hear the difference between that and the Titanium HD. Although an Fiio e17 would be nice for a work/commute setup but i hear they are buggy with android so i'm waiting out for the e18. 

Bioshock Infinite was pretty great. Alot shorter than i expected def much better with the 3D sound since the AI LOVES to flank you (stupid crow soldiers). Sorta unexpected ending since i was a fan of the original Bioshock game (I was pretty giddy when the referenced it). Can't wait for the Burial at Sea DLC. 

Been playing dota since the wc3 mod and i never really made it past just a casual gamer. My skills just never get past a certain point so i'm pretty noob friendly. add me up on steam and we can setup some bot matches (same as head-fi name). 

Also i'm pretty tempted to get a mixamp for my ps3 since GTA5 will be out in the next couple weeks and It'll give me a reason to plug in the PS3 lol. 

That's two people that want to be added to my so-far empty Steam friend's list. Ignorant question, uuuuh... How do you add a friend? I usually check Steam via the iOS app, lol, and I don't see the option. I'll look at my PC client tomorrow, gotta sleep now. And please, don't think less of me, ahahahaha!


Mitch,
2 posts in a row do count as double-posting, all you have to do is add your second thought to the first post by using the edit button. Press it press it press it!

Aaaaaaaand... I'd say having a good system (headphone, amp, DAC, and virtual surround) is a bigger benefit than just plugging your headphones into your motherboard. I have a DSS as well, and it only sounds "ok" with good headphones plugged in. Honestly, the Q701 has stayed in my stable (and used to be in Chico's for about a year, Mad's for over I think a whole month, used to be his top all-rounder pick) because it is no slouch. Others may say it is lighter in bass than headphone X or Y but for most instrument's audible range, it has above neutral/recording master bass levels. Upper mids and the extremes of the audible frequency range wobble around the neutral line a bit, but on the whole it is very balanced, better extended, and technically proficient compared to the average headphone, and still a strong value at it's price point (and up). You might end up preferring the Q701 over the X1 anyway.

^the above paragraph makes me feel crazy for spending more money on another AKG, but at least I know I'm likely to like it.
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If your onboard sound outputs Dolby Digital Live (optical) you could use a little external unit like a DSS v.1 or a mixamp. Check eBay for good prices used.

 

It would work, but unless you plan on using those external units with a console as well, you'd get far more bang for the buck with a cheap sound card.

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