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Originally Posted by dadab12 View Post

I think that the Ultrasone Pro 900 are amazing, I can hear everyone. I just knife people around cause I hear every footstep of them in the map. that' not even in search and destroy on modern warfare it's on free for all, and that's without the Mixamp, I don't wanna know what's gonna happen when I get the Mixamp, Honestly.



You don't find the Pro 900 to bassy for FPS style games? I haven't tried them, but am just wondering. I don't love my HE-6 or LCD-2 when it comes to gaming. Sound is awesome, but the surround placement just does not work perfectly with DH. I was about to buy a pair of AD700 dedicated for gaming, but luckily had not yet. It is bad enough that I just bought a Victor/JVC SU-DH1 last month, since now I am already planning to sell it.

 

I am buying a Smyth Realiser for movies, and also gaming. I would say my decision was more based on movie watching, but I am very excited to see how well it works for video games. It should be epic. I get it in on Monday, and may be able to give some early impressions (not sure what my work schedule for next weeks is yet), but wont have it fully calibrated until sometime next month. I am thinking it may be the next greatest thing in gaming. I bought the SU-DH1 for the same reason as the Realiser, movies. It is a real disappointment that the Mixamp or DSS does not decode DTS. How much more could it really cost them for the licensing.  Anyway, when I have everything set up I will let everyone know how it is.

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No, It's not too bassy, just like it's not too bassy as a music headphone. The bass doesn't overpower nothing it's just there.

I can follow people all around the map, I know exactly where they are even where there is alot of explosions, helicopters and what not. 

and that's on stereo... I can hear when people are over me, horizontal, downwards, diagonal whatever. it's there. and it's obvious, no guessing game

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You don't find the Pro 900 to bassy for FPS style games? I haven't tried them, but am just wondering. I don't love my HE-6 or LCD-2 when it comes to gaming. Sound is awesome, but the surround placement just does not work perfectly with DH. I was about to buy a pair of AD700 dedicated for gaming, but luckily had not yet. It is bad enough that I just bought a Victor/JVC SU-DH1 last month, since now I am already planning to sell it.

 

I am buying a Smyth Realiser for movies, and also gaming. I would say my decision was more based on movie watching, but I am very excited to see how well it works for video games. It should be epic. I get it in on Monday, and may be able to give some early impressions (not sure what my work schedule for next weeks is yet), but wont have it fully calibrated until sometime next month. I am thinking it may be the next greatest thing in gaming. I bought the SU-DH1 for the same reason as the Realiser, movies. It is a real disappointment that the Mixamp or DSS does not decode DTS. How much more could it really cost them for the licensing.  Anyway, when I have everything set up I will let everyone know how it is.



 

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To be entirely honest, I don't find bassy cans to be poor performers for gaming. Yeah, with large explosions and such you won't hear the other frequencies as easily. Think about it though, if there's that much noise going on anyway, you're not going to hear the subtle footsteps in the first place. And there's many games where it really doesn't matter, like BFBC2 for example. That game isn't for sound whores, its for those who wanna feel like they're in the game. Also, I never found the bass on my DT770/80s to be too overpowering. Even during chopper fly byes, bombing runs and loud explosions, the level of audibility in the mid range (footsteps) was on par to an almost exact level when compared with my AD700s. Basically I'm saying there's no point in getting the AD700s for me when a more fun pair of headphones with almost equal positioning capabilities produces the same results. And when it comes to single player, don't even get me started. Dead space literally caused me to change my underwear thrice. Just kidding, but seriously it was scary as hell. 

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DT770 Pro 80 is the most impressive price/performance-wise. Bass is fantastic, positional cues are the best, and treble is crisp. Sure, the mids are a gaping void, but blame that on the theater like bass. One of my fave sub $200 cans, period. Only gave them up because of my stupid need to buy new things. I loved them. In fact, they are like the D7000, without the mids, but better positional cues. So anyone who loves their DT770 Pro 80s would love the D7000 as the truest upgrade to them.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/14/11 at 4:14pm
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I'm Interested in buying the HD800 since I can get them in an extremely good price * can't publish it though not fair for those who bought it for full MSRP) I wonder how it deals with positional cues...

 

 

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I have heard the HD-800 does not work super well with DH. The reason is because of how open the soundstage is, that it distorts placement some. I have never heard them so that is not from personal experience. I was wondering why my HE-6 did not do a better job, and someone here gave what I felt to be a good explanation. I can not remember who, so if you read this, feel free to take credit, or PM me and I will edit the post to add your name. Anyway, what they said was that a headphone with a naturally flat soudstage works best with DH. Lets compare it to a movie. Lets say you have a projector (DH), and a projector screen (headphones). you want to project the image on a flat surface, so the projector can do the work of interpreting depth, you don't want to add coloration on top of coloration, it just causes more distortion. That may be a bad analogy, and was not used by the OP. You do have to think about it though. DH, does not take into account the characteristics of individual headphones and instead is designed for a "generic" headphone, which is obviously going to be more closed in and flat soundstage wise than say the HD-800.

 

You may be very happy with the HD-800 for music, or games where perfect placement is not necessary, and if it really is that good of a price it may be worth it. I would however not expect it to make the ultimate DH gaming can.

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I really buy it for music, I'm really satisfied with pro 900. but the pro 900 are lacking in certain music genres that i'm interested in. not saying they are not awesome headphones for the price but I think both of these headphones really complete each other for my kind of genres.

 

and the price I get is 600 euros. I don't plan on missing that

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Originally Posted by Meh View Post

I'd actually buy the Earforce off Amazon in the US because of the exchange rate right now and save $20.  If the powered splitter is not required, that's even better really.



I can try a normal splitter with my DSS later and see how it works...I assume it will sound fine.

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Originally Posted by dadab12 View Post

I really buy it for music, I'm really satisfied with pro 900. but the pro 900 are lacking in certain music genres that i'm interested in. not saying they are not awesome headphones for the price but I think both of these headphones really complete each other for my kind of genres.

 

and the price I get is 600 euros. I don't plan on missing that


Assuming they are in decent shape, even if you did not like them you could likely sell them here and make your money back, or for that matter make a profit. Of course it is against Head-Fi rules to buy headphones with the intent to sell them for profit. However if the profit is unintentional, and your main reason for purchasing them was personal listening, then you are fine.

 

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

I can try a normal splitter with my DSS later and see how it works...I assume it will sound fine.


Yep, its fine.

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Awesome.  I don't suppose you know how much power output you get from the DSS do you?  I'm just wondering what headphones I can use for it.  Is the MixAmp any different sound quality-wise?

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Mixamp and DSS both use the same dolby chip as far as I know.  Mixamp does produce more power-- I think it was either 70 or 80mw per channel in 32ohm, while DSS was only 40mw per channel at 32 ohm.

 

The MAJOR difference sound quality wise is their signal to noise ratio.  You won't start hearing static on the Mixamp until you get to around 60% volume, and it's very little.  The DSS however, you get a good bit of static even at its lowest volume.  

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well i went and got the 598's  , go tthem for 177 shipped.    Now i need to see what to do ,  dss , mixamp  or a receiver with silent cinema ( saw mixed reviews on that ) 

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TMRaven is right with those specs. 

 

I can only compare the Mixamp 5.8 and DSS as I no longer have the wired mixamp.  The wired mixamp has the best signal to noise ratio of them.

 

DSS has a hair more hiss at low volume then the Mixamp 5.8, but has less hiss at extreme volumes then the Mixamp 5.8 which gets pretty hissy if you crank it to max.  You have to go really loud on both to reach that point though.  I only listen at ~35% volume on them.

 

Surround sound wise they are basically identical.  The only differences being that the mixamp has a slight boost in the upper midrange whereas the DSS is more linear, and that the DSS has a stronger bass boost that's adjustable.

 

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Ahh ok, thanks for the all the info guys, much appreciated.  Judging from the sounds of things I'm better off getting the wired MixAmp then.  It's $50 more, but it's something I'll be using daily for the next few years so I want something I'd be happy with.  Does anyone here with the wired MixAmp or MixAmp 5.8 have any exerpience driving higher impedance headphones?  I don't have any myself currently but I will be getting some next year.

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