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About using Silent Cinema with headphones, it's alright I guess. I used it for a few months and did okay with Ultrasone HFi-2200's. I've also tried Sony's VST which wasn't bad either. I picked up a Harman Kardon receiver with DH and dang.... it kinda blew me away. Soundstage just opened up even more. If I had to rate it, it'd be DH > SC > VST.

I still need to try the AD700 vs HFi2200 to see if I'm missing out on anything.


I will second Silent Cinema not working well. I used to use it all the time. The sad thing was I never even realized it was supposed to be emulating surround sound. I feel like that says it all. I was mostly using a poor set of cans at the time, but even so. The Dolby Surround works infinitely better. My Victor SU-DH1 has been working like a champ. I will likely be selling it next month, but not do to any flaws in its performance. I have not tried the Mixamp or DSS, but I assume both work equally well for gaming.

 

Edit: I am also very interested in trying the AD700's. I think I have convinced a friend to buy a pair. Another one of my friends already owes some DT770pro. I am looking forward to getting them all in one place. Too bad I sold my DT880/600, I hear those are also good for gaming (I sold it before I bought the DH).

 


Edited by TruBrew - 4/7/11 at 9:49pm
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Were you guys using Silent Cinema for games or movies? I've heard that it is amazing for movies, but not so much with games. I haven't heard SC personally though.

 

-Daniel

 

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I will second Silent Cinema not working well. I used to use it all the time. The sad thing was I never even realized it was supposed to be emulating surround sound. I feel like that says it all. I was mostly using a poor set of cans at the time, but even so. The Dolby Surround works infinitely better. My Victor SU-DH1 has been working like a champ. I will likely be selling it next month, but not do to any flaws in its performance. I have not tried the Mixamp or DSS, but I assume both work equally well for gaming.

 

Edit: I am also very interested in trying the AD700's. I think I have convinced a friend to buy a pair. Another one of my friends already owes some DT770pro. I am looking forward to getting them all in one place. Too bad I sold my DT880/600, I hear those are also good for gaming (I sold it before I bought the DH).

 



 

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Just watched Tangled with the Mixamp 5.8 and my D7000. I felt like I was at the movies. Simply sublime. No extra amping needed.

One thing I will still bring up, movies don't give me any real positioning cue like games. It sounds immersive. Not that I cared. I was in aural heaven. Still better than plain stereo.

Also, just ordered the Hifiman HE-4. Will be trying them for gaming just cuz I'm curious, though I'll have to move my Lyr to the living room just to help the Mixamp power them, lol.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/8/11 at 1:57am
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Were you guys using Silent Cinema for games or movies? I've heard that it is amazing for movies, but not so much with games. I haven't heard SC personally though.

 

-Daniel

 



 


Darn it , now i don't know what to do,  get the receiver or get mixamp or dss   lol
 

 

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Since I'm your best friend and all... If you don't like the HE-4 can I has them pleaseeeeeeee......
 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just watched Tangled with the Mixamp 5.8 and my D7000. I felt like I was at the movies. Simply sublime. No extra amping needed.

One thing I will still bring up, movies don't give me any real positioning cue like games. It sounds immersive. Not that I cared. I was in aural heaven. Still better than plain stereo.

Also, just ordered the Hifiman HE-4. Will be trying them for gaming just cuz I'm curious, though I'll have to move my Lyr to the living room just to help the Mixamp power them, lol.


 

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I just realized why I haven't been able to get good positional cue from movies. I assumed that Blu-Rays on the PS3 would be down converted to Dolby Digital to play through toslink cables. It sounds like I was wrong. I'm currently watching a movie with Dolby Digital (regular DVD), and I'm getting a more immersive sound (though not as clear).

So many Blurays use DTS-HD which doesn't down convert to DD. Perhaps just linear PCM which is why I'm not getting the enveloping DD sound.

Ah well, after all is said and done, DH does work for movies, better than I previously thought.
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Deepest apologies if this has been answered elsewhere in the thread (it's 61 pages! I can't read all that in one night!), but have you tried the Mixamp with the JVC HA-RX900s (or 700s)?

People say that those are good for gaming, and cost only around $60 ($30 or the 700). 

I'm asking because I own a HA-RX900 and I'm considering some sort of virtual surround thingamawhatsit, be it the Mixamp or something similar.

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Deepest apologies if this has been answered elsewhere in the thread (it's 61 pages! I can't read all that in one night!), but have you tried the Mixamp with the JVC HA-RX900s (or 700s)?

People say that those are good for gaming, and cost only around $60 ($30 or the 700). 

I'm asking because I own a HA-RX900 and I'm considering some sort of virtual surround thingamawhatsit, be it the Mixamp or something similar.



I used to have the RX900's and I tried using them with the mixamp.  This was a long time ago, so my memory is very foggy, but I remember them not being ok but no great.  Not as good as some other combos I've tried.  Some people seem to enjoy them though.  

 

If you already have a pair, it wouldn't hurt to try them out.  You could listen to some "dolby headphone" samples on youtube or binaural clips and see how they do. 

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Now using the W5000, I can say they are one of the best closed back headphone for gaming. The positioning is supreme and very precise all round, not just the sides. Granted, it is not as fun as some more bassy phone but are pretty good for spotting footsteps through walls.
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Well I guess it would depend on what you're looking for. If you're mainly into movie watching and need a receiver, get that. Keep in mind a lot of Harmon Kardan receivers use DH, so that could be a great option/value for both games and movies. If this is strictly for games, get the cheap DSS and call it a day-it will work better than SH and save you $$ if you don't need a receiver. Plus, the DH still works great for movies, and is probably only marginally inferior the SH, if at all based on my reading.

 

-Daniel

 

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Darn it , now i don't know what to do,  get the receiver or get mixamp or dss   lol
 

 



 

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Hey Shincool.gif:

 

     Of course DTS-HD/MA won't convert to DD-they are different competing formats! DTS-HD will almost ALWAYS downconvert to regular DTS 5.1/6.1, even on the PS3. So you would be out of luck with the DH devices as far as getting a 5.1 signal from DTS-HD. Maybe you should look into the SUDH-1 which will do DTS as well as DD.

 

-Daniel

 

PS: Someday I'll learn how to multi-quote. Not today.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I just realized why I haven't been able to get good positional cue from movies. I assumed that Blu-Rays on the PS3 would be down converted to Dolby Digital to play through toslink cables. It sounds like I was wrong. I'm currently watching a movie with Dolby Digital (regular DVD), and I'm getting a more immersive sound (though not as clear).

So many Blurays use DTS-HD which doesn't down convert to DD. Perhaps just linear PCM which is why I'm not getting the enveloping DD sound.

Ah well, after all is said and done, DH does work for movies, better than I previously thought.


 


Edited by BournePerfect - 4/10/11 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Hey Shincool.gif:

 

     Of course DTS-HD/MA won't convert to DD-they are different competing formats! DTS-HD will almost ALWAYS downconvert to regular DTS 5.1/6.1, even on the PS3. So you would be out of luck with the DH devices as far as getting a 5.1 signal from DTS-HD. Maybe you should look into the SUDH-1 which will do DTS as well as DD.

 

-Daniel

 

PS: Someday I'll learn how to multi-quote. Not today.

 



 



 

Lol, I knew that. What I meant is that I thought ALL movies had an internal DD codec for some reason. Like a hidden one. Ah well... Stupid people and not having some form of default standard that isn't stereo. :p

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The FiiO E7/E9 combo is for sale at MP4nation for $162. I just picked up one since it was too good of a deal to pass up.

 

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2827697

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Well I'm sure 99% of dvds have a DD codec, at least the Hollywood ones. Foreign films are very hit and miss in a lot of area however (audio, subtitles, letterboxing etc). I honestly haven't bothered to look at my blu-ray/hddvd audio codecs too hard because I am without surround sound for the first time in my life, unless you count my little DSS which I only use for games. I'm currently saving for a Yamaha YSP 5100 for movies...once my dream 2.1 Magnepan setup is complete in the not so immediate future lol.

 

-Daniel

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Tbh, after experimenting, I feel the DT880's are so good imaging wise that it makes Dolby Headphone redundant for gaming. That and a lot of games these days have their own surround sound DSP coding in their game. I prefer the DT880 without Dolby headphone. I play much better.
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