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Originally Posted by ronswanson View Post

Would you guys say the HD558 are closer in sound quality to the HD598 than the hd518?  I tested the HD518 and HD598 over the weekend, and didn't really like the 518 at all.  loved the 598.  

 

The cost of the 558 is much more doable for me as a future upgrade for me than the 598.

 

Also, this thread has been a great help to me guys.  so thanks!

The HD558 and the HD598 use the same drivers and responds well to an amplifier.

The HD518 is designed more for "unamped" sources.

So yea, get the HD558.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The HD558 and the HD598 use the same drivers and responds well to an amplifier.

The HD518 is designed more for "unamped" sources.

So yea, get the HD558.

The astro mixamp by itself should be fine to drive that, right?

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First off, thank you to to MLE for the extensive write-ups on so many headphones, and to everyone else that has given helpful info.  I use my '09 mixamp constantly (console gaming and movies), so this thread was exactly what I was looking for.

 

I'm ugrading from a TB HPX headset, and I've settled on the DT 990 Pro paired with the FiiO E9K.  I have a question regarding cables.  My mixamp didn't come with a Y-cable, so when my mic died and I upgraded to the LVA 7330, I purchased Headset Buddy's Y-cable.  As I understand it, I'll need a 3.5mm male to RCA male cable to connect from the headphone jack of the Y-cable to the RCA-In on the E9K.  Can I buy the basic version of this cable, our would it be advised to get the premium gold plated one?  My guess is that if there will be any signal degradation, the basic Headset Buddy Y-cable would be the cable to introduce it, so the gold plated 3.5mm to RCA almost seems unnecessary.

 

However, Headset Buddy does make a gold plated version of their Y-cable, so if the gold connectors are recommended, I could upgrade to that, and then get the gold plated 3.5mm to RCA from monoprice.

 

Thanks for any feedback/recommendations.


Edited by Vader2k - 11/6/12 at 8:52am
post #8884 of 37441
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Just get a decent cable that you can afford. I don't put much stock in cables, and I have tested silver cheap ones with some good monoprice, and mediabridge ones. They sound the same. I tend to get Mediabridge and Monoprice, because they look nice, lol.

I don't believe in the head-fi cable hype (amongst other things like op-amp rolling, SS amp differences, etc).

Oh yes, welcome to the thread. I hope you stick around and give us your input on the combo, etc. smily_headphones1.gif
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Great, glad to hear it.  I'll happily save money where I can!

 

Thanks for the welcome.  I'll be sure to give my thoughts once I get everything (still saving, but getting close!).  This will be my first step into higher end headphones, and I'm eager to give it a go.

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First impression on the HD650 (music only)...

It's GREAT! If there is a veil, I'm definitely not hearing it. Treble is plentiful for me, the vocals are oh so lovely, and it has a very natural tone. More natural than the Q701.

The bass is nice too! It's not as fun as the DT990, but it's definitely nicee. The main star is definitely those mids.

I'm absolutely, completely, and pleasantly surprised. I really thought I wouldn't like them. I couldn't have been more wrong.

Don't have the HE400 to compare, but I can tell the HD650 has better mids, and the treble doesn't get peaky like it did on the HE400.

Chico, I'm 100% sure you would love the HD650. Think of a warmer, Q701, with less soundstage, but still spacious, and fuller bass.

The treble... absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Early verdict: I LOVE THEM!

As far as gaming goes... we'll have to see. All I know is that these are keepers, for sure. They are the best alternative to the DT990 I have heard. The HE400 is more of a competitor to the DT990 in that it's bass and treble more than mids (though way more natural sounding than the 990s, but less than desirable bass for my personal taste)
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 11/6/12 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

First impression on the HD650 (music only)...

It's GREAT! If there is a veil, I'm definitely not hearing it. Treble is plentiful for me, the vocals are oh so lovely, and it has a very natural tone. More natural than the Q701.

The bass is nice too! It's not as fun as the DT990, but it's definitely nicee. The main star is definitely those mids.

I'm absolutely, completely, and pleasantly surprised. I really thought I wouldn't like them. I couldn't have been more wrong.

Don't have the HE400 to compare, but I can tell the HD650 has better mids, and the treble doesn't get peaky like it did on the HE400.

Chico, I'm 100% sure you would love the HD650. Think of a warmer, Q701, with less soundstage, but still spacious, and fuller bass.

The treble... absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Early verdict: I LOVE THEM!

 

 

Hmm....

 

What made you pick the HD650 over the HD600?

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Warmth, fuller bass. I heard the HD600 is more analytical. Sure it's neutral, but I wanted NATURAL. I wanted musicality and warmth. But those mids. OMG, you HAVE to hear them.

If you listen to your KSC35, think of the HD650 has slightly less bass bloat, with more mids. And obviously going from clip on to full size sound presentation. And a LOT of refinement.

I wouldn't keep the HD650 as my main music can as I prefer for energy, but they are an amazing, relaxing, and mid rich compliment.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 11/6/12 at 12:16pm
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The HD650 has good mids, you say? Now I just have to have a listen for myself, if only to broaden my headphone experience, but it's very unlikely that I'll get the opportunity.

 

Stop tempting me! My wallet can't take this! (Especially not after this CECHA PS3 project taking a turn for the unexpected...and expensive...long story short, expected bad PSU and fan, got good PSU and fan with bad motherboard in need of reballing, from what I can tell. That's another $100-150 down the drain.)

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I've heard the HD650 too on a Matrix M-Stage amp attached to a Creative Titanium HD at the time. I've haven't heard the DT990s but if it has bass like that, I certainly wouldn't mind it. Though I found the HD650 a bit...too warm and relaxing. I found that the warmth seems to smother you. I personally like something with more energy. Though, I wouldn't mind trying the can again on better gear.

post #8891 of 37441
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Well yeah, that's how I feel. The HD650 is warm and relaxing. I want it mainly for when I'm watching TV shows or things that drown out the mids a bit (like some action movies). I certainly wouldn't keep the HD650 as my only headphone. Still, those mids are amazingly rich and inviting.

The DT990's bass is like the HD650's bass, but stronger and more energetic.

Nameless, somewhere down the line I'll probably send them out to you. Need to recuperate a LOT of cash first. I forgot I have to renew myu Security license, my car's tag, and some other shizz. AGH.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 11/6/12 at 1:10pm
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I don't think I'd have a lot of use for an HD650.  I wouldn't use them for gaming.  Not sure when you'd use them for music except when you want something smooth and relaxing. 

 

I mean it'd be nice to have some extra warmth sometimes, but the Q701 gives me some slight warmth and a natural sound + 'Dat Soundstage.

 

It sounds like the HD650 would probably be a better complimentary can then the HD600 though, which might be too similar to the others to be worth owning....


Edited by chicolom - 11/6/12 at 2:37pm
post #8893 of 37441
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Yeah, you wouldn't. It'd be competing with the Q701. While the tonal balance is very different, they do the same things well, with some tradeoffs. Both are rich in the mids, the HD650 has better bass, and the Q701 is airier, with a larger soundstage. I still dunno how they perform with DH though. Th movie didn't have many audio cues with the HD650, but did with the 990s, so that isn't good news for the HD650 and DH synergy. Still, movies are much worse than games at testing such things.

I must say, it makes a PERFECT movie can. The bass is full, the vocals are fantastic, and the pircing treble in movies are dulled. Watched Prometheus, and I liked watching it with the HD650 more than the 990s. Interesting.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 11/6/12 at 4:17pm
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interested in your gaming impressions with the HD650's MLE.  i'm considering getting a pair, looking for an all around set of headphones for gaming and music. i game a ton (primarily FPS) but i prefer CMSS-3D off for just about every game.  i've always been willing to sacrifice positional cues for the sake of an 'immersive' gaming experience. do you ever test with CMSS-3D or DH disabled?

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Yes. I can't stand playing in stereo (other than on portable systems as they don't have surround to begin with).

I used the HD650 for BLOPS for a few hours today. If I had to give them scores right NOW based off BLOPS gameplay?

Fun: 8

Competitive: 7.5 (this could be an 8... I'm just scoring it lower to be on the safe side, though I did very well with these today, and didn't feel I missed anything)

Comfort: 8

They are indeed great all rounders. They're actually pretty detailed for a warm headphone. I'm still out on how they do competitively as I didn't get many games in, but so far, so good. I'll have to test out for soundstage though. Rear cues were fine for me. The bass is VERY good. They are richer in bass than the DT880s. About halfway between the 880s and 990s in terms of quantity. However, because the treble is nice and smooth, the bass and mids are highlighted. The treble is very natural sounding, even for gaming, and didn't sound lacking at all.
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