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post #7216 of 37376

I responded to your points in a later post. Read that instead.

post #7217 of 37376
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Originally Posted by ZeeBAD View Post

Ok  i know that i am driving you crazy but bare with me :)

 

1.I want headset (headphone + mic) cause i use skype and i need it for chat also

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

...the Beyerdynamic MMX300 or Sennheiser PC360.
 

3.I need sound card cause its for pc but i really dont know that mixamp was for consoles

 

       You have plenty to choose from. Asus and Creative are 2 big names that make great cards.

 

4.I need headset and i dont know the good headsets from the bad 1

 

     Most headsets can't hold up to quality headphones. You'd be better off with an external mic added to headphones, with the exceptions listed above by MLE.

post #7218 of 37376

Regarding the A50s:  Why would you want your Dolby Headphone surround processing locked away in ONE headset?

 

The A50 is just a single stereo headsets swallowing up the mixamp 5.8 features (the mixamp is astro's best product).  I'd rather buy the A40 + mixamp (with extra wires) to not have the mixamp I payed for locked inside my headset with no way to separate them.

 

I guess if you got tired of the A50 and wanted to upgrade to nicer headphones, you could get another Rx unit for $60 and then you'd have a mixamp 5.8.  But good luck selling your A50 without the Tx transmitter.  It's worthless and unusable without the Tx, and the Tx isn't available to buy.


Edited by chicolom - 8/27/12 at 8:56pm
post #7219 of 37376
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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

So am I not supposed to ask questions about other headsets here or did everyone just totally ignore me.
Like others have said, haven't heard those Sony's, they are totally unknown to me. With this post however, you make me wonder: do I owe you money or something?

ZeeBAD,
headsets are OK, especially if you just want a one-piece solution. It's just that a few of us other gamers have tried one or more gaming headsets in the past, and felt disappointed in sound quality for the cost, among other things. Buying a super-über cheap "lapel mic" from China is an easy solution to be able to chat with any headphone, and that lets you get ultimate sound while getting a better value for your budget. You can use a "lapel mic" or Ant Lion's mod mic to chat during games, Skype, Ventrillo, whatever smily_headphones1.gif

I love my AKG Q701 headphones, lapel mics I bought on Amazon for $3.50 USA dollars (it was a 3-pack), and I have a thing to calculate Virtual surround sound (binaural sound) for my games. MLE's headset suggestions are good for a simpler setup. If you buy a nice sound card with the rest of your budget, you will have a great gaming experience. Good Luck!
post #7220 of 37376
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


Like others have said, haven't heard those Sony's, they are totally unknown to me. With this post however, you make me wonder: do I owe you money or something?
ZeeBAD,
headsets are OK, especially if you just want a one-piece solution. It's just that a few of us other gamers have tried one or more gaming headsets in the past, and felt disappointed in sound quality for the cost, among other things. Buying a super-über cheap "lapel mic" from China is an easy solution to be able to chat with any headphone, and that lets you get ultimate sound while getting a better value for your budget. You can use a "lapel mic" or Ant Lion's mod mic to chat during games, Skype, Ventrillo, whatever smily_headphones1.gif
I love my AKG Q701 headphones, lapel mics I bought on Amazon for $3.50 USA dollars (it was a 3-pack), and I have a thing to calculate Virtual surround sound (binaural sound) for my games. MLE's headset suggestions are good for a simpler setup. If you buy a nice sound card with the rest of your budget, you will have a great gaming experience. Good Luck!

 

Thanks

 

Man you just dont understand i am a guy that dont know any thing about the sound stuff so i went to search online for gaming headset and all i get was little results like astro a50 and a40 , razer timat razer megaldon these are 5.1 and this is 7.1 and when you search for these headsets and read you feel like WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I want One of those so i came here to ask experinced people like you but i caused so many troubles for the guys here that they dont even wanna see my name again on any post :D.

By the way Headfi summer guide recommend three gaming headstes Astro A30 , sennheiser pc 360 and Beyerdynamic mmx 300.

So please recommend for me sound card for gaming ?

Please recommend some headphones for me also.

thanks again :D 


Edited by ZeeBAD - 8/27/12 at 9:33pm
post #7221 of 37376

Interesting that they aren't that well known, they seem to be the most faked headphones I've ever seen which would make me thing they had a large market.

 

Also I want to make it clear I wasn't attacking or being rude about asking if I was being ignored, I just wanted to be sure I wasn't actually posting where I shouldn't be. And @Mad Lust Envy if your post was directed at me I was asking the general audience here not just you, I know you don't have access to every headphone in existence (duh lol)

 

What do you mean Evshrug?

 

 

 

Well I've heard from a few people that the sound accuracy is unmatched at the price point the MDR-V900HD's are at (~$170) and that with a proper sound card, like the Asus Sonar ones that have Dolby Headphone built-in, it will make the positioning as great as any other headphones. While they don't game and didn't say they would be great for it, they said they would probably be the best bet for anything audio-related unless I got into the $600+ range, which I wouldn't even go near. It was also mentioned that it was the closed style of them that gave it such a great experience, the extreme clarity of the sound made the positioning as great as it was.

post #7222 of 37376
Thread Starter 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/593050/the-nameless-guide-to-pc-gaming-audio

Go there, they can help you figure out what soundcard would be best for you.

I assume something simple to use would be best...

Hobo, it was directed to ZeeBAD.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/27/12 at 9:29pm
post #7223 of 37376
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Originally Posted by ZeeBAD View Post

So please recommend for me sound card for gaming ?

 

thanks again :D 


If you don't have any restrictions in price

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132010

 

Is supposed to be an AMAZING sound card. Just look at the reviews, people are raving about it and I've watched a few video reviews. If you have the cash, it looks like the thing to get. Just make sure you have an open PCI-E 1X slot open on your motherboard. If you don't know if you do, find someone who can check for you. If you only have a regular PCI slot open, they have PCI options available too.

 

If you don't want to drop that much money

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132006

 

Is supposed to be nearly as good too, just not as many extra features.

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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

 

If you're even considering the non-T50RP orthos, the T1, and the HD800, you can certainly afford a Stax setup. It'll have to be Lambda-series, not the SR-007 or SR-009, but you can afford it. (Seriously, why do the Lambdas hardly get any respect outside of the Stax Mafia?)

 

There must be some other reason why you won't consider them.

 

A lot of people think Lamdas are ugly.  Personally I'm into the look.  For a while now I've been on and off eyeing the Stax SRS-2170, which is the SR-207 and the SRM-252S, pretty cheap combo.  

 

By the way, why is it that you've been looking to change your set up?  If you want to get rid of the big amp maybe take a look at Emotiva's mini amp?  

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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

Well I've heard from a few people that the sound accuracy is unmatched at the price point the MDR-V900HD's are at (~$170) and that with a proper sound card, like the Asus Sonar ones that have Dolby Headphone built-in, it will make the positioning as great as any other headphones. While they don't game and didn't say they would be great for it, they said they would probably be the best bet for anything audio-related unless I got into the $600+ range, which I wouldn't even go near. It was also mentioned that it was the closed style of them that gave it such a great experience, the extreme clarity of the sound made the positioning as great as it was.

 

"Sound accuracy" is a pretty vague term.  While it's true that dolby headphone improves pretty much any headphone, it doesn't necessarily make any headphone great.  Certain headphones improve more than others, and have more potential to be great.

 

Saying the Sony's are "the best bet for anything audio-related unless I got into the $600+ range" again is a pretty generalized statement. 

 

Sorry if it sounds like I'm nitpicking, but just because a headphone is good at one thing doesn't mean it will be good for gaming.  It doesn't even mean it will be good for different genres of music (A lot of people on head-fi have different pairs of headphones for different genres of music).  There are a lot of aspects to sound in headphones. 

 

"Extreme clarity of sound" doesn't mean good positioning (although they're sort of related).

 

It might help to read up on the differences between closed and open headphones, and what their strengths and weaknesses are.  Also "soundstage" and "imaging/positioning".


Edited by chicolom - 8/27/12 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

"Sound accuracy" is a pretty vague term.  While it's true that dolby headphone improves pretty much any headphone, it doesn't necessarily make any headphone great.  Certain headphones improve more than others. 

 

Saying the Sony's are "the best bet for anything audio-related unless I got into the $600+ range" again is a pretty generalized statement. 

 

Sorry if it sounds like I'm nitpicking, but just because a headphone is good at one thing doesn't mean it will be good for gaming.  It doesn't even mean it will be good for different genres of music (A lot of people on head-fi have different pairs of headphones for different genres of music).  There are a lot of aspects to sound in headphones. 

 

"Extreme clarity of sound" doesn't mean good positioning (although they're sort of related).

 

It might help to read up on the differences between closed and open headphones, and what their strengths and weaknesses are.  Also "soundstage" and "imaging/positioning".


Hm I'll look into that too but I don't think they meant it like that. I took it as independently hearing each channel, almost feeling where it was coming from.

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Originally Posted by Phos View Post

A lot of people think Lamdas are ugly.  Personally I'm into the look.  For a while now I've been on and off eyeing the Stax SRS-2170, which is the SR-207 and the SRM-252S, pretty cheap combo.  

 

By the way, why is it that you've been looking to change your set up?  If you want to get rid of the big amp maybe take a look at Emotiva's mini amp?  

 

I actually think Lambdas are ugly too...except that is completely irrelevant when they sound so good and are more comfortable than anything else I've worn. Function over form is what I live by.

 

As for changing my setup, that's partly about learning more about Stax and electrostatics in general through first-hand experience, and partly about wanting a dual-bias amp that can drive both Normal bias and Pro bias sources. Unfortunately, getting a Pro bias SRD-7 variant is generally expensive enough to the point where you might as well buy a proper amp like an SRM-1/Mk2 Pro, and I don't know how I'd go about modding one of the SRD-7/SB's sockets to provide Pro bias while the other remains Normal bias.

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Hi all, first things first I'd like to say "awesome thread", been reading so much on this forum that for an audio rookie it's quite mind blowing. I've been doing a bunch of research on this and other sites but have finally figured i'd do a post of my own so I could give some of my own details.

 

I recently got a new computer (which is pretty much used for gaming) but never really put much thought into the audio side of things. Howver the headset I had been using was getting pretty tattered and I figured it was time for a new one (old set were some Sennheiser's that I got on special from JB hifi for $79 marked down from $139 about 10 years ago becuase a new model was coming out). Obviously things have changed a fair bit since then. After reading some reviews (without actually finding a proper audio forum like this) I purchased Corsair's new vengeance 1500 headset. Now it sounded good (to an audio rookie like myself anyway) but they crushed my head even at max size and after leaving them on a tissue box for ages. So I sold them to a mate with a smaller head who wanted new a headset. I then stupidly purchased some turtle beach z6a's which have been completely crap. Have owned them for about 3 monthes and the plastic they are made of is cracking and falling apart in about 5 different places and although they fitted better they still weren't comfortable. I'd return them but I got them from america and turtle beach australia doesn't want anything to do with me after contacting them. Long story short they're **** and i'm moving on. After doing a fair bit of reading it's starting to look like i'm better off getting a new headset and a sound card that'll do them justice.

 

At the moment i've been using my onboard sound from my Asus pz68-v pro motherboard:

 

Realtek® ALC892 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- Supports : Jack-detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-retasking

 

Audio Feature :
- Absolute Pitch 192kHz/ 24-bit True BD Lossless Sound
- Blu-ray audio layer Content Protection 
- DTS Surround Sensation UltraPC 
- Optical S/PDIF out port(s) at back panel

 

But I'm thinking of buying myself something like the xonar essence stx. Basically it all boils down to two questions for me

 

1: What is a good headset for someone with a really big head to get (I stress very big head)? several ppl have told me sennheiser pc 350 or 360 but i've also read in other places they crush bigger heads so i'm not sure. The headset is mostly for gaming and watching movies/tv on my computer. Obviously i'm not a total audiophile I just want good sound so i'm happy to go with most brands as long as they're big enough to fit comfortably. Also being a gamer i'm looking at the set's with microphones.

 

2: If my onboard sound isn't good enough to do these headsets justice what is the best option for a sound card? The stx seemed like a good option but if I can go cheaper and get similar results without the bells and whistles that's great.

 

Obviously the cheaper the better but i'm looking at spending about $300 all up (headset and card) but could be convinced to go up to the $400 mark if it means i'll finally get headphones that fit comfortably on my big boof head.
 

 

Thanks for any help and advice you'll have my eternal gratitude if I can finally get past this headset rollacoaster i've been on.


Edited by Dawico - 8/27/12 at 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by Dawico View Post

1: What is a good headset for someone with a really big head to get (I stress very big head)? several ppl have told me sennheiser pc 350 or 360 but i've also read in other places they crush bigger heads so i'm not sure. .

 

I think MLE might be the expert on this, I remember him saying he has a big head.  basshead.gif

 

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Also keep in mind, a mic + any pair of headphones = headset.

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Thread Starter 
Beyers are comfy for big heads.

edit: I don't know how people can own so many headphones. I am in love with both the DT990 and HE-400. I feel like I'm cheating on the other one when I wear one. I can understand one closed, one open, one portable, one iem... but multiple headphones that you'd use for the same purpose? frown.gif

I don't wanna give the DT990 up. I want it. But I look at the HE-400, and I wanna wear it. Then when I wear the HE-400, and I see the DT990 and wanna wear it. WTF. This is evil.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/28/12 at 1:09am
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