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post #7201 of 37370
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

Also, for clarification, the A50 is not a 7.1 headset. It's an A40 with the mixamp built in. It's stereo. The mixamp is what gives the stereo headsets surround sound. Hopefully that clears a little confusion for you.

Thanks Axel yeah thats information i really need it 

another question does the mixamp consider as soundcard or what ? for example if i bought hd800 and MIxamp that will give surrounded sound right so if i bought the astro a5o with its built in mix amp and sound card that will give me the same result or not ?

post #7202 of 37370
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Originally Posted by Eric_C View Post

OK semi-serious question: where to buy D7k? HeadRoom and Amazon are out of stock.

 

ZeeBAD: sorry, the D7000 might be unavailable. I guess you should buy a HD800 and a Woo Audio amp to smoothen out the highs.

For sale section.  They've been discontinued.  

post #7203 of 37370
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Originally Posted by ZeeBAD View Post

dear eric thanks for your reply

i will tell why its so hard to follow my thougts cause i really dont know any thing about these sound stuff i dont know the good  stuff from bad one whats right and whats wrong beleive me i dont know **** about these headphones and sound systems.

dude all i wanna know what to do i have two choices the first is to go with the article buy one of these headphones and one of these mixamps , second buy razer timat or astro a50 with soundcard.

i am not interested in details cause i dont know anything really anything at all i just wanna know what to do.


I think the reason it is so hard to follow your thoughts is because from your typing, English is probably not your first language. Help us by clearly answering the following questions...

 

1. You have mentioned a sound card in your earlier post. Are you using this for gaming on both PC and console? What kind of games do you play?

 

2. Are you going to use this headset (or headphone + microphone) to listen to music outside of games?

 

3. How much money are you willing to spend?

 

4. It seems 7.1 headphone/headset is the most important thing to you. It doesn't matter if it is a headset or a headphone with a microphone. Is this correct or will non-7.1 suffice?


Edited by HalidePisces - 8/27/12 at 8:05pm
post #7204 of 37370
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Originally Posted by Fegefeuer View Post

Mad: LCD-2 has no good soundstage for gaming. The HE-500 has more but I would take a T90 for gaming even when the T90 can't beat the HE-500 in music. Now this means, T1, HD800. Stax are way out of my mind, I'd rather save up for speakers. 

What's left? HD 800 and the Shures. I should try the Shures just for fun, I don't think they'll be better than the T90. Do you know about their potential? HD 800 is a bit too much for gaming alone. If I spent 1000€ they should be the one for all which I doubt. Who knows though. ;)

 

If you're even considering the non-T50RP orthos, the T1, and the HD800, you can certainly afford a Stax setup. It'll have to be Lambda-series, not the SR-007 or SR-009, but you can afford it. (Seriously, why do the Lambdas hardly get any respect outside of the Stax Mafia?)

 

There must be some other reason why you won't consider them.

post #7205 of 37370
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Originally Posted by ZeeBAD View Post

Thanks Axel yeah thats information i really need it 

another question does the mixamp consider as soundcard or what ? for example if i bought hd800 and MIxamp that will give surrounded sound right so if i bought the astro a5o with its built in mix amp and sound card that will give me the same result or not ?

 

The Mixamp is a DSP (Digital Sound Processor). It applies filters and sound processing to digital signals. You'll still need a sound card with a Mixamp. The Mixamp is mainly designed for consoles, but can be used with a PC, as I use it with my laptop. But you'll need a sound card that can output optical to take full advantage of it. And if you're playing on a desktop computer, I'm with Nameless in the fact that a good sound card can trump the Mixamp any day. With a sound card that can do surround DSP I feel the A50s are overkill. Personally, having used my friend's A40 for an afternoon, I feel there are better headphones out there for the money.

 

tl;dr, with a PC, a sound card should be used. On a console, the mixamp or similar DSP should be used.

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ZeeBAD: Please don't take this as an insult, but your thoughts are hard to follow because you're not breaking them up into sentences and paragraphs. It's just hard to read. It's not about whether you know a lot.

 

Also: the details matter for gaming headphone setups. They matter A LOT. Let me give you an example.

 

One of the things you're considering is a D7000 for gaming. You want to chat too, so you'll need a mic. That's the easy part. Here's where the details start to matter:

  1. PC, Xbox, or PS3? Or 2 of the above? Or all 3? Setting up voice chat for Xbox and PS3 is more complex with a D7000, and the setup is different for each console. (Different versions of the Xbox may also affect the setup)
  2. You'll need a virtual surround sound device. MixAmp? Or MixAmp 5.8 for wireless? But the 5.8 doesn't have some input plugs that the wired MixAmp does. If you get the wired MixAmp, how far will you sit from the console? You'll need to power the wired MixAmp by USB or by battery (I think).
  3. Virtual surround for PC begins with the right sound card. Your sound card may not be able to process a 5.1 or 7.1 signal. No, buying a MixAmp will not fix that. So what sound card do you have? Have you checked with people like Nameless whether this sound card can do surround sound?
  4. Does the D7000 need an amp? I can't answer that. What I can tell you is the D7000 has low impedance and high sensitivity; this means that if you amp it, you will need an amp that delivers high current. This is a different kind of amp than the ones you would pick for a Q701 or Beyer 880 or Sennheiser HD 600--those headphones will benefit more from an amp that delivers high voltage instead.

Edited by Eric_C - 8/27/12 at 8:12pm
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So am I not supposed to ask questions about other headsets here or did everyone just totally ignore me.

post #7208 of 37370
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Originally Posted by NinjaSushi2 View Post

Hey Y'all. In the market for some decent closed back headphones and how is the Fiio E7 DAC/amp? I was thinking the DT770 250 Ohm + E7 or my O2 Amp.

Yeah, someone else said the DAC in the E7 is alright, but the amp basically scores as well as the E6. If you already have an O2, why the heck use another amp? smily_headphones1.gif
post #7209 of 37370
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Originally Posted by HalidePisces View Post


I think the reason it is so hard to follow your thoughts is because from your typing, English is probably not your first language. Help us by clearly answering the following questions...

 

1. You have mentioned a sound card in your earlier post. Are you using this for gaming on both PC and console? What kind of games do you play?

 

2. Are you going to use this headset (or headphone + microphone) to listen to music outside of games?

 

3. How much money are you willing to spend?

 

4. It seems 7.1 headphone/headset is the most important thing to you. It doesn't matter if it is a headset or a headphone with a microphone. Is this correct or will non-7.1 suffice?

sorry for my bad english i know i am driving you crazy but bare with me :)

 

1.I am using this for pc gaming i dont have console and , i play first and third person shooter games real-time strategy and some online games like wow and diablo

 

2.No i wanna use these headset only for the pc i just wanna know if i listened to music will give me good sound quality

 

3.350$ max 400$

 

4.The only two headstes that i know is the astro a50 and the razer timat and both of them are 7.1 so i thought that only the 7.1 and the 5.1 headsets are the only one that gives you surrounded sound am i right or wrong.

post #7210 of 37370
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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

So am I not supposed to ask questions about other headsets here or did everyone just totally ignore me.

I've never heard of the Sony headphones you're talking about. Other than your friends' recommendations, is there any reason you're keen on them for gaming? 

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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

I searched a couple terms in the thread and I'm pretty sure nobody has even mentioned the Sony MDR-V900HD headphones. I have heard absolutely amazing things about these headphones from a couple people that actually own them, but never had a chance to test them out myself. Apparently there's a "Pro" version of these too, the Sony MDR-7509HD headphones too, but I don't know what the difference would actually be between the two.

 

Does ANYONE have any experience with either of these? I would really love some solid feedback on them as it's hard to find any real input from people. Especially if someone could compare them to some of the headphones in the first post of this thread.

 

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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

So am I not supposed to ask questions about other headsets here or did everyone just totally ignore me.

 

 

I'm not familiar with the Sony V900, and I don't think many of the other frequenters of this thread are either.  You are probably right that they haven't been mentioned.

 

I can see they are closed studio monitoring headphones, which traditionally have drawbacks for gaming.  Mainly being poor soundstage and subpar positioning compared to open headphones.  I can't speak for these Sony's though. 

 

Are you looking at them because they were specifically recommend for gaming (and had strengths such as large soundstage and good positioning), or just because you know people who recommend them in general?

post #7212 of 37370
Thread Starter 
I lol at the fact that you think you can get the D7000 for anything less than maybe $550 USED.

The A50 is NOT a 7.1 headset. It is a stereo headset with the built in Mixamp that virtualizes the sound into 7.1 (5.1 really, but I'll let Astro's false advertising slide, as Dolby Headphone isn't limited to speaker placement).

Buy a good soundcard like the Asus Essence STX, and the Beyerdynamic MMX300 or Sennheiser PC360. There. A quality setup for PC.

Your posts are like a foreign language to me. Very hard to understand.


Also to everyone else: I've mentioned this several times. If they aren't on the first post, I have NOT personally heard them, or didn't find them worth talking about. So anyone who wants to ask me about headphones that aren't on my guide, they'll get the same exact answer: I haven't heard them, and can't form any opinion on them based on hearsay, or I have heard them but find them to not work well for gaming whatsoever. I get so many private messages asking me about headphone A or headphone B. I wanna save you all the time, by saying don't ask me about headphones that aren't on my guide.

The MMX300 is an exception, because they are basically DT770s with a mic, and both DT770s I have used do positioning and soundstage real well, despite them being overly bassy, which I know the MMX300 isn't. If I was in the market for a headset, the MMX300 would be on the top of my list.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/27/12 at 8:42pm
post #7213 of 37370
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Originally Posted by hoboX10 View Post

So am I not supposed to ask questions about other headsets here or did everyone just totally ignore me.


It probably got lost in the back-to-back posting. Or those following this thread don't have one. I've got a MDR-XD200, but I don't know how it'd compare with a MDR-V900HD. You might want to create a thread in the headphone section about the Sony MDR-V900HD. It might attract more responses.

post #7214 of 37370
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Originally Posted by ZeeBAD View Post

sorry for my bad english i know i am driving you crazy but bare with me :)

 

1.I am using this for pc gaming i dont have console and , i play first and third person shooter games real-time strategy and some online games like wow and diablo

 

Check your soundcard in NamelessPFG's thread before you go any further.

 

 

3.350$ max 400$

 

 

Denon D7000 and HD800 are out of your budget.

 

 

 

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4.The only two headstes that i know is the astro a50 and the razer timat and both of them are 7.1 so i thought that only the 7.1 and the 5.1 headsets are the only one that gives you surrounded sound am i right or wrong.

 

No, completely wrong. Astro A50 is 5.1, not 7.1, and it is actually virtual surround. It has the Astro MixAmp inside the headphones; this entire thread is about using the external MixAmp (or similar product) with other headphones. Tiamat is "true" 7.1 surround, but as has been stated many times in this thread, "true" surround headphones are usually worse than normal 2.0 headphones in sound quality, and worse than MixAmp + good 2.0 headphones for surround sound.

post #7215 of 37370
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Originally Posted by Eric_C View Post

ZeeBAD: Please don't take this as an insult, but your thoughts are hard to follow because you're not breaking them up into sentences and paragraphs. It's just hard to read. It's not about whether you know a lot.

 

Also: the details matter for gaming headphone setups. They matter A LOT. Let me give you an example.

 

One of the things you're considering is a D7000 for gaming. You want to chat too, so you'll need a mic. That's the easy part. Here's where the details start to matter:

  1. PC, Xbox, or PS3? Or 2 of the above? Or all 3? Setting up voice chat for Xbox and PS3 is more complex with a D7000, and the setup is different for each console. (Different versions of the Xbox may also affect the setup)
  2. You'll need a virtual surround sound device. MixAmp? Or MixAmp 5.8 for wireless? But the 5.8 doesn't have some input plugs that the wired MixAmp does. If you get the wired MixAmp, how far will you sit from the console? You'll need to power the wired MixAmp by USB or by battery (I think).
  3. Virtual surround for PC begins with the right sound card. Your sound card may not be able to process a 5.1 or 7.1 signal. No, buying a MixAmp will not fix that. So what sound card do you have? Have you checked with people like Nameless whether this sound card can do surround sound?
  4. Does the D7000 need an amp? I can't answer that. What I can tell you is the D7000 has low impedance and high sensitivity; this means that if you amp it, you will need an amp that delivers high current. This is a different kind of amp than the ones you would pick for a Q701 or Beyer 880 or Sennheiser HD 600--those headphones will benefit more from an amp that delivers high voltage instead.

Ok  i know that i am driving you crazy but bare with me :)

 

1.I want headset (headphone + mic) cause i use skype and i need it for chat also

2.I need it for PC i dont have console

3.I need sound card cause its for pc but i really dont know that mixamp was for consoles

4.I need headset and i dont know the good headsets from the bad 1

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