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Does anyone here already have a speaker amp/receiver and want a taste of the Stax sound? This may be your chance.

 

It's an auction, so I have no idea what the final selling price might be, but you never know how much you might be able to win it for.

 

Everyone here probably knows how I started looking into Stax and electrostatics in general for their gaming prowess (touted by people other than MLE on these forums), and was ultimately pleased with both the sound and the comfort. Maybe someone else here can give them a try?

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I haven't heard the RX700, but I would take the CAL over the RX900, which I have heard.

 

Owning the RX700 and having used the CAL! for a bit I'd agree with Chico on this one. The CAL! are more comfortable for extended play. And I feel the positioning is better on the CAL! so the 3D sound is better.

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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

Owning the RX700 and having used the CAL! for a bit I'd agree with Chico on this one. The CAL! are more comfortable for extended play. And I feel the positioning is better on the CAL! so the 3D sound is better.

 

Ya, the RX900 pads are huge, cramped, and hot.  The positioning is just a bit funky and unevenly spaced on the RX900 for me.  It was a lot of work trying find the distance sounds were coming from.  The CALs soundstage sounds more spacious to me.  The pads are also smaller, roomier, and cooler.

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You should be able to find pads that are similar shape yet do better then the default pads. Its not un-common for people to use ear pads from other headphones. I know i was originally gonna do that with my A900x pads when I first got the headphones. But then Turns out they was on the headphones wrong or turned when i was putting it on my head. which made my ears rest on the pads. But I fixed that and they havent been hurting my ears since. Other then the pads breaking in.


Nameless I hope you planning on testing them off your head first. Because that would suck if they explode as soon you place them on your head and turn them on.
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I hate how my iPad refreshes a website tab when I look at another tab for a while. This will be like my fourth time typing this reply :/
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And now in two minds between the RX700 and Aurvana Live. The JVC seem like a steal for the price, but the sheer scale of the beasts is intimidating in comparison to the minimalist stylish Aurvana's, if a little on the timid side. I anticipate the sound comparisons between the two won't be too drastic, with both the JVC being favoured site wide and the CAL in MLE's OP.

I'd say (from research) that they're both great. In short, the JVC were most often compared to the Denon DH1001 when they were first released, and the CAL! uses the same drivers as the now-discontinued Denon. I don't think you could go wrong with either.

When the JVC first started showing up (to limited availability!), a few posts were made by the early adopters asking for more reviews, as they were questioning their sanity when the JVCs seemed to perform on a level similar to headphones costing 2x and 3x as much. Here is one of those threads, I think SpacemanSpiff is a little over excited but the thread grew into something more credible:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/375575/jvc-har-x700-and-900-two-of-the-best-dynamics-am-i-nuts

Not long after, some Enterprising head-fi'ers decided that these had a lot of modding potential, and TopPop's comprehensive review and the easy-to-follow modding guide he created as a follow up impressed me enough that these were the real deal. Sorry for saying HA-RX700 before, it's the 900 I've heard, as I ended up buying TopPop's modded HA-RX900 from him. Most everyone agreed that there was an obvious "settling in" of the headphones when burned in, but TopPop's resonance-dampening with dynamat and a little bit of stuffing was targeted to control the mid-bass hump and make the sound more cohesive by balancing the mids and treble. His initial review is here and the guide with pictures for the mod is linked on page four of that thread.

I had them for about a week before my best friend graduated & I gave them to him as a gift (he was a Music Ed major). A/Bing them alongside my AD700, about a month after my fiasco where I ordered the open AD700 & got the closed A700 instead (so I got to try them both out), I had to say I really liked the modded HA-RX900 for music alongside the AD700. I'm not sure if I liked one better than the other, but the JVC definitely had more body. I heard them again when I had my friend over for the 4th of July, and I still think they're good, great for the price in fact. Are they the best competitive gaming can, I don't think so, and maybe you can perform higher for your budget (these are also home-use only), but they are a great value for the price.

Edit: Again, I have a lot of respect for Nameless and Chicolom, and even AxelCloris, and I don't disagree that the CAL! might be better for gaming, especially as I haven't tried the HA-RX900 with virtual surround gaming. The HA-RX900 I heard was supposedly better than stock because the mods targeted the midbass hump that muddied the mix a bit, all I know was that I liked them and thought them a budget wonder, and that the RX900 is reputed to have a larger soundstage than the RX700 with a more laid-back presentation. I still feel comfortable that the Q701 is better in everything, except for living frugally wink.gif

Lol sorry, after all that I still say you're going to have to make your own choice wink.gif Now, I'm going to try out Reach with SC and see if I can't conclude my Q701 review (doesn't seem like there's a review category for it yet?!)
Edited by Evshrug - 8/26/12 at 2:18pm
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Oh, and last thing about CAL! Vs RX900 modded from me, if you think you would use the CAL! portably, then I'd suggest that as the more valuable option. Home headphones are always going to compete with home speakers.
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I tried out DHT v4 and its better than dolby headphone in preserving quality audio. I haven't really done much positioning testing but nothing stands out as bad in a miniscule testing.

What is DHT v4 and what product offers it?

Cybernet1000,
We/I am not ignoring you, it's just that in my case I'm not a fan of wireless headphones, because they are limited by their bandwidth and tiny internal DACs and amps, and I just think that they are too limited by price and design constraints despite their wireless freedom. I don't even have a clue what yours sound like, so I don't know the basis to improve on, other than MLE has a nice round-up of great headphones at different prices in this thread, pick which of those sounds best to you?
Edited by Evshrug - 8/26/12 at 2:38pm
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What is DHT v4 and what product offers it?

Dolby Home Theater.  Not very much uses it yet because of how new it is.

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Thread Starter 
Unless its on a receiver or external device, its not applicable to me. frown.gif
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First off, massive props to Mad Lust Envy and to EVERYONE else who's contributed awesome stuff to this thread. I admit I didn't read it all, but I now have a clear goal in mind. Having been in the boat of being somewhat disappointed with my Astro A30s but quite content with the Mixamp, I am going to take the route of spoiling myself silly and getting some awesome cans. I'm most likely going to see if I can get my hands on a Q701 come next paycheck.

 

Thanks again, everyone!

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Aw YEAH! Now that's what I'm talking aboot! So Silent cinema virtual surround is MUCH more apparent in Halo Reach. I played the first level of Campaign, with lots of choppers and warthogs swooping around, early in the intro cutscene there are two choppers that fly parallel from behind you to your front, and it worked beautifully. Multiplayer SWAT was intense, but I feel like I was definitely able to get the jump on people. Also had me turn around a few times at the right moment. Reach's built in version of EAX effects helps, seems to calculate occlusion and the Doppler effect too so you get a feel for distance.

Which is just as well, because as far as I can tell, Silent cinema is just a crossover echo delayed by a certain amount defined by which DSP you have set, and a little overall EQ setting that of course doesn't adjust dynamically to help you identify distance. You can distinguish direction well once you're used to it, basically there's more echo as you go towards the back in each channel, but it definitely feels like an artificial effect. I think I like Action Game or even Drama DSP best, because there's much less echo and distance cues are left up to the game engine.

So Reach and Oblivion are awesome, Call of Duty 4 & BO are meh ok, bf3 clips are of high quality but the positioning is just "meh." I look forward to the Recon3D, that's been an hour's drive away since Friday, to arrive Tuesday so I can make a comparison, get my Mac audio working, and decide if I'm going to keep it.
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Oh, and last thing about CAL! Vs RX900 modded from me, if you think you would use the CAL! portably, then I'd suggest that as the more valuable option. Home headphones are always going to compete with home speakers.
What is DHT v4 and what product offers it?
 

 

What @phos said.

 

Its like Dolby Headphone, but better.  Everything else is basically an EQ, such as dialog enhancer which will make sure music doesn't go over words.

 

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/pc/dolby-home-theater-v4.html

 

The specs of it shows what it does but I think most of its functionality is invisible to the user.  The whole asus phoebus driver/dolby digital utility is almost too simple.


Edited by ninjikiran - 8/27/12 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by ninjikiran View Post

What @phos said.

Its like Dolby Headphone, but better.  Everything else is basically an EQ, such as dialog enhancer which will make sure music doesn't go over words.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/pc/dolby-home-theater-v4.html

The specs of it shows what it does but I think most of its functionality is invisible to the user.  The whole asus phoebus driver/dolby digital utility is almost too simple.

Well, it took a 2nd read to separate "not much uses it yet." Hopefully some products DO start to use/include the feature soon, and headphone audio continues to grow. TBH I'll probably buy a vinyl LP turntable and complete my audio setup before I upgrade components such as my receiver, but if DHT v4 shows up in a separate processor I may jump on it.

MoogleDee,
Good for you! Yeah, at that price range, I love my Q701, but it also bears mentioning that MLE has been very enthusiastic about his 2012 Beyerdynamic DT990 32Ohm headphones for a fun sound signature. Season to taste?
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Thread Starter 
I'd still recommend the Q701 over the DT990/32 for those of you allergic to treble peaks. It still sounds like a 990, despite it behaving better than the 600ohm on less than powerful sources/equipment.

edit: Now that I have spent more time with it, the treble is sounding a lot like the 600ohms, so now it's like they sound 99% alike. I dunno why the first day it felt smoother. Not even new toy syndrome. I KNOW what the DT990 sounds like, and this one surely sounded a bit warmer than they do now.

I'm just mad right now. Been waiting for my E17, which I missed two deliveries of, due to being at work. I scheduled for today, and the mail still hasn't arrived, nor do I think it will, due to the damn storm down here in Florida.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/27/12 at 2:33pm
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What's left in the upper regions regarding gaming besides HD 800 and T1? 

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